webfact Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Briton was beaten to death - 'He did not drown' A murder enquiry has been launched in Thailand into the death of a Briton who was beaten today and did not drown as was claimed in a local post mortem. Police in Surat Thani, South Thailand, have ordered police on the holiday island of Koh Samui to r-open the case of Kevin Attew 57, a local bar ownner and biker whose body was found last week in a lake behind Chawaeng Resort on the island [more...] Full story: http://www.andrew-drummond.com/view-story-other.php?sid=406 -- andrew-drummond.com 2011-05-31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 How the hell did a local post mortem get this wrong in the first place? Are the lungs filled with water? No, therfore he did not drown, its not rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewdrummond Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 How the hell did a local post mortem get this wrong in the first place? Are the lungs filled with water? No, therfore he did not drown, its not rocket science. Well I have covered a murder here in which the victim had boiling oll poured over her after she was beaten up and the police recorded that she fell from a roof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonthaburial Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 UK Press are onto this also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pi Sek Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 I met this guy on several occasions. RIP David. We all know this, but the police here really need to pull their fingers out. To say they are a joke is disrespectful to the thousands of victims in this "joke". (I just deleted this paragraph out of respect, but I suspect the girlfriend isn't being 100% forthcoming with the whole story.) Andrew, how about elaborating on the length of time Crispin was held by the DSI on the back of the "Five C's" report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewdrummond Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 I met this guy on several occasions. RIP David. We all know this, but the police here really need to pull their fingers out. To say they are a joke is disrespectful to the thousands of victims in this "joke". (I just deleted this paragraph out of respect, but I suspect the girlfriend isn't being 100% forthcoming with the whole story.) Andrew, how about elaborating on the length of time Crispin was held by the DSI on the back of the "Five C's" report? Yes I read that incredible report. Crispin did the best part of a year from my memory. I think he wants to put that all behind him now. But I'll check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 There does seem to be a disproportionately high murder rate for foreigners running successful businesses in some of Thailand's main tourist destinations (Phuket, Pattaya, Koh Samui, Hua Hin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supaprik Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) R.I.P. a top bloke and did some good things in his life, lets hope some justice is done... Edited May 31, 2011 by supaprik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 How the hell did a local post mortem get this wrong in the first place? Are the lungs filled with water? No, therfore he did not drown, its not rocket science. Well I have covered a murder here in which the victim had boiling oll poured over her after she was beaten up and the police recorded that she fell from a roof It's crazy Andrew, how the hell do they get away with this bullshit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 More here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1392431/Murder-probe-Brit-beaten-death-dumped-12-inches-water.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/8546634/Murder-inquiry-launched-over-death-of-British-man-on-Thai-island.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 How the hell did a local post mortem get this wrong in the first place? Are the lungs filled with water? No, therfore he did not drown, its not rocket science. Well I have covered a murder here in which the victim had boiling oll poured over her after she was beaten up and the police recorded that she fell from a roof It's crazy Andrew, how the hell do they get away with this bullshit? One needs to look at where power truly lies in this country, both nationally and regionally. Then, consider what effective, or otherwise, measures are in place to provide checks and balances to that power. Then you will have a clearer picture of how Thailand works. In this case, you would need to consider who could effectively censure or review the results of the investigation of the Samui police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunholidaysun1 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Does anyone know WHY he was murdered ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangusthemonkey Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Most Farangs on Samui knew how he had been murdered days ago ! The post mortem declaring drowning did not surprise anyone as they have unfortunately a reputation for overlooking the obvious !!! Eg several blood forced traumas ! Thankfully some pressure has been applied and they have not been able to hide the facts now . But what of those who have tried to again cover up an awful crime here on the island. Until People realise that they can not get away with these things i am afraid they will continue. RIP Kevin . Hopefully justice will be served. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 How the hell did a local post mortem get this wrong in the first place? Are the lungs filled with water? No, therfore he did not drown, its not rocket science. Well I have covered a murder here in which the victim had boiling oll poured over her after she was beaten up and the police recorded that she fell from a roof It's crazy Andrew, how the hell do they get away with this bullshit? One needs to look at where power truly lies in this country, both nationally and regionally. Then, consider what effective, or otherwise, measures are in place to provide checks and balances to that power. Then you will have a clearer picture of how Thailand works. In this case, you would need to consider who could effectively censure or review the results of the investigation of the Samui police Sorry i was not clear,. I have been here many years and know the answer to my question, it was just a rhetorical question :jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnicaleBob Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 This indeed is a sad case, may justice be found and may the victim’s spirit be allowed to rest in peace. There are a couple of things that seem to stick out and make me wonder about this murder. The victim had a good business and appeared to be living a good life, what would have been a motive for him to commit suicide? I think not. Why would the victim’s wife keep insisting it was suicide? To end the investigation so that it would not be found who did murder the victim? Murder; Who benefits from this murder; wife who now has full ownership and control of the business and bank accounts? Why would the police be so quick to write this off as a suicide? Tourism; maybe, payoff from the killer; hummm. I would love to see the photos, they should tell a lot not only about the bruising but the lividity (where the blood settled within the body) would tell a lot about the position of the body just after death. Is this going to be consistent with the position the body was found? So much is wrong here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewdrummond Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 How the hell did a local post mortem get this wrong in the first place? Are the lungs filled with water? No, therfore he did not drown, its not rocket science. Well I have covered a murder here in which the victim had boiling oll poured over her after she was beaten up and the police recorded that she fell from a roof It's crazy Andrew, how the hell do they get away with this bullshit? And a case where a guy was shot andf police did not realise for two weeks there was a bullet in his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufcsamui Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Send an investigation team over from Bangkok, the Koh Samui Police are a joke. I believe the previous American owner of this bar was shot and almost died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKvampire Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) I have said this before and I will say it again. "If you are murdered in Thailand there is a strong possibility the truth will never come out It will never be fully investigated" Fact is many Thais are victims and the assasin is never found or it is even deemed to be "foul play" by the police. Why do you think Thailand is top of the list of many countries (outside of war zones) of "Most dangerous places to visit".? Furthermore it's about time the FCO of the UK got off their asses and demand justice for British Citizens from the Thai government and tell them advice will be issued .to tourists . NOT TO VISIT THAILAND Edited May 31, 2011 by KKvampire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pi Sek Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Why would the police be so quick to write this off as a suicide? Tourism; maybe, payoff from the killer; hummm. I would love to see the photos, they should tell a lot not only about the bruising but the lividity (where the blood settled within the body) would tell a lot about the position of the body just after death. Is this going to be consistent with the position the body was found? So much is wrong here. I suspect an autopsy or similar will not reveal much because there has been so much interference since the initial report. In truth, the reporting officer is either an idiot or he is intimately complicit, and several of his colleagues have some serious questions to answer. At best, it is gross incompetence/negligence and at worst it is aiding and abetting a murder. Andrew, go and ask Apichart in the Public Prosecutor's office (easy to recognise because he has his name embroidered into all his shirts) what is being done about this - it's his domain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinhill Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 This indeed is a sad case, may justice be found and may the victim's spirit be allowed to rest in peace. There are a couple of things that seem to stick out and make me wonder about this murder. The victim had a good business and appeared to be living a good life, what would have been a motive for him to commit suicide? I think not. Why would the victim's wife keep insisting it was suicide? To end the investigation so that it would not be found who did murder the victim? Murder; Who benefits from this murder; wife who now has full ownership and control of the business and bank accounts? Why would the police be so quick to write this off as a suicide? Tourism; maybe, payoff from the killer; hummm. I would love to see the photos, they should tell a lot not only about the bruising but the lividity (where the blood settled within the body) would tell a lot about the position of the body just after death. Is this going to be consistent with the position the body was found? So much is wrong here. Whether you knew Kevin and his wife personally or not (apparently not in this case), it's not really appropriate to publicly voice speculative comments which appear to suggest foul play by those who loved and cared for him. Please have some respect for the fact that they are grieving at this time. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinhill Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Send an investigation team over from Bangkok. I'd be in favour of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) Bye my friend. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0gc3q99rFM Edited May 31, 2011 by PoorSucker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satayu Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 I met this guy on several occasions. RIP David. We all know this, but the police here really need to pull their fingers out. To say they are a joke is disrespectful to the thousands of victims in this "joke". (I just deleted this paragraph out of respect, but I suspect the girlfriend isn't being 100% forthcoming with the whole story.) Andrew, how about elaborating on the length of time Crispin was held by the DSI on the back of the "Five C's" report? Yes I read that incredible report. Crispin did the best part of a year from my memory. I think he wants to put that all behind him now. But I'll check Actually it was a few days short of 18 months, a dam_n long time in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satayu Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Send an investigation team over from Bangkok. I'd be in favour of this! All of us would!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfie Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Send an investigation team over from Bangkok, the Koh Samui Police are a joke. I believe the previous American owner of this bar was shot and almost died. You honestly believe the BKK plod are any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pi Sek Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Send an investigation team over from Bangkok, the Koh Samui Police are a joke. I believe the previous American owner of this bar was shot and almost died. You honestly believe the BKK plod are any better? They're no better, but they wouldn't have had any prior involvement with any of the involved parties. That makes them infinitely more likely to find an "irregularity" than the Chaweng cops, who are as criminal as they come. As stated below, to say they are a joke is disrespectful to the thousands of victims in this "joke". But I get what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selftaopath Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 How the hell did a local post mortem get this wrong in the first place? Are the lungs filled with water? No, therfore he did not drown, its not rocket science. How much truth do you think there is in Land of Scams/ Lack of Sanctions (LOS) ?????? Not that much..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 i think it is about time the samui mayor up his game, negative publicity like this is bad for samui buiness, just the posts on the daily mail are not looking to good how many british have been killed on samui with a police report of sucide or an ' Accident ' ? , i was once hit my a taxi, was put in hospital but luckily i got the taxt number, gave it to the police, did they do anything ??? NO... what if i had been killed? ...... the trouble with the police here is they are something out of the 60's police force in the UK, no training, corruption and the first man is always guilty, if he isnt, beat him to confess its all about education !, and samui being such a small island could benchmark itself it to becomeing a role model for Thailand ! IE non corrupt police, police who do a proper job, take way the corrupt airline, taxis, bars, restaurants ect ect.... fix all the roads, put in decent power, high speed internet , street cleaning teams, the list could go on Samui is slowly killing itself and it needs to address this before its to late ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selftaopath Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Totally digressing, I heard yesterday of a local 18 yo boy in Phuket who stole his father's car (no license) and crashed into an 18 yo girl, Killing her instantly. The father of the guilty offender went straight to the local police and had the official report amended to state he was the driver and the girl was in the wrong. Her parents now believe she was involved in an accident of her own making (reported by the police who have taken 'tea money' from their local and influential friend. The boy has got away with MURDER. This scenario is typical in this crazy country. Pay money, get off scott free. RIP poor unfortunate victim of murder and grieving / lied to parents. Shame on you Thai police, you disgust me. Here here. Boobs in Brown are TOTALLY DISGUSTING. Unfortunately they are "untouchable." What a place eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESB7 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 This indeed is a sad case, may justice be found and may the victim's spirit be allowed to rest in peace. There are a couple of things that seem to stick out and make me wonder about this murder. The victim had a good business and appeared to be living a good life, what would have been a motive for him to commit suicide? I think not. Why would the victim's wife keep insisting it was suicide? To end the investigation so that it would not be found who did murder the victim? Murder; Who benefits from this murder; wife who now has full ownership and control of the business and bank accounts? Why would the police be so quick to write this off as a suicide? Tourism; maybe, payoff from the killer; hummm. I would love to see the photos, they should tell a lot not only about the bruising but the lividity (where the blood settled within the body) would tell a lot about the position of the body just after death. Is this going to be consistent with the position the body was found? So much is wrong here. Whether you knew Kevin and his wife personally or not (apparently not in this case), it's not really appropriate to publicly voice speculative comments which appear to suggest foul play by those who loved and cared for him. Please have some respect for the fact that they are grieving at this time. Thank you. Well Said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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