mrpager2000 Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 I have a reasonably small unsettled legal matter, but it seems like it is going to take months till im allowed to leave, Im american, ive heard of alternate ways of leaving does anyone know of any surefire way for me to go home NOW! swimming accross the loas river, floating to myanmar on a raft, paying someone to clear my name for exit ( i am not overstayed) but there is alot of nasty thai writing in my passport. can Someone help a your broke Detroit boy, share your thoughts...... busted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Were you charged with an offence ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjan Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 Why not simply phone or go to your embassy ? Adjan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 For a desperate guy he's none too forthcoming is he ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IT Manager Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 Maybe he was arrested swimming the Mekhong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 Floating to Myanmar..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpager2000 Posted January 3, 2004 Author Share Posted January 3, 2004 Boy you guys are a big help! Calling the embassy is useless, they only give a list of attornys and lawyers that charge 200 USD/hour im charged with bringing an elephant around bangkok, working without visa, and overstay 7 days. I have cleared up the overstay already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjan Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 Why don't change your point of view ? Until your case is not closed at the court, you don't need visa anymore to stay in thailand. Find a thai lawyer and bargain to pay 20'000 bahts the first time, then 10'000 every 6 months. You will have to go to the court probably every 2 months to spend 2 or 3 hours there... maybe 10 years long. Use that time to learn that ANIMALS ARE FRIENDS NOT SLAVES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maerim Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 ANIMALS ARE FRIENDS NOT SLAVES. I agree but cooked properly they do tastse good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjan Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 How are you cooking elephant ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpager2000 Posted January 3, 2004 Author Share Posted January 3, 2004 It wasnt really for the elephant, that was my GF, it was for operating a box for making overseas calls in my girlfriends internet shop. the police tell us small case, but im hearing varied reports of 50,000-300,000 baht fine. 50,000-100,000 i can manage but more wont be easy. I dont have an Attorney because i had to admit guilt on the spot or they were going to arrest me and my girlfriend, I had to sign to keep her free. do you think that will work??? i thought if you dont have the exact amount the ask for at the time of sentancing you go straight to jail?? But yes one advange of all of this is that i no longer have to do visa runs! im just afraid that if i dont have all the money they ask i will go to jail, can anyone recommend an Thai attorney? I can afford any of the ones on the emassy list and even if i could they would want more knowing that im paying 100-200 USD an hour for an attorney they would think i have money, which I DONT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjan Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 Let them think that you are very rich, it will be helpfull. You probably will have to make a deposit (caution). If so, do it BEFORE to go to court (double the amount for thai people). Otherwise you will have to wait in jail until the caution is paid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjan Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 I sincerly hope to be wrong, but think of that so soon your case will be closed and your fine paid, you will be kicked out of the country by immigration, with a nice red stamp in your passport. You will have to stay in jail some days, waiting for your flight to your country. You will have to pay for any of your transportation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 What is your nationality Mr Pager ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IT Manager Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 It wasnt really for the elephant, that was my GF, it was for operating a box for making overseas calls in my girlfriends internet shop. the police tell us small case, but im hearing varied reports of 50,000-300,000 baht fine. 50,000-100,000 i can manage but more wont be easy. I dont have an Attorney because i had to admit guilt on the spot or they were going to arrest me and my girlfriend, I had to sign to keep her free.do you think that will work??? i thought if you dont have the exact amount the ask for at the time of sentancing you go straight to jail?? But yes one advange of all of this is that i no longer have to do visa runs! im just afraid that if i dont have all the money they ask i will go to jail, can anyone recommend an Thai attorney? I can afford any of the ones on the emassy list and even if i could they would want more knowing that im paying 100-200 USD an hour for an attorney they would think i have money, which I DONT Can you be a bit specific here. When you say operating a box, do you mean a PC connection to make VoIP calls? What are the actual charges? Working without a work permit? or something else? IMO if you want help, anywhere, including here, the specifics make it a bit easier, you will find people will not joke and will attempt to give you useful information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IT Manager Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 Secondly, elephants do not make good girlfriends in my humble opinion. They take up far too much room in the bed, and when they take a pee it makes the house smell bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 good name for post "my girlfriend was my elephant" What was that other one "my girfriend may be pregnant" ? at least you get 3 years to get out of town with this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nat Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 "my girlfriend was my elephant" sounds like an episode of Jerry Springer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sick Boy Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 Secondly, elephants do not make good girlfriends in my humble opinion. They take up far too much room in the bed, and when they take a pee it makes the house smell bad. Nice one centurian, like it, like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 "my girlfriend was my elephant" sounds like an episode of Jerry Springer could you imagine the bouncers trying to break up the fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpager2000 Posted January 4, 2004 Author Share Posted January 4, 2004 We I dont think I really need to be exactly specific, I have pending charges and Im not allowed to leave, I want to leave and not face my charges, Ive been told that 3rd party persons who have some connection to the US embassy can help for a fee. Im wondering what other options there are for leaving this country, not what defense i can put up. I know there must be some ways to sneak out, does anyone know of the ways??? I plead guilty already and Im going to be sentanced in FEBRUARY and im from AMERICA (to answer the question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjan Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 did you receive my emails ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 We I dont think I really need to be exactly specific, I have pending charges and Im not allowed to leave, I want to leave and not face my charges, Ive been told that 3rd party persons who have some connection to the US embassy can help for a fee. Im wondering what other options there are for leaving this country, not what defense i can put up.I know there must be some ways to sneak out, does anyone know of the ways??? I plead guilty already and Im going to be sentanced in FEBRUARY and im from AMERICA (to answer the question) Don't worry. You will have to pay a fine, and you will be detained at IDC, deported and blacklisted. Do not take the risk of sneaking out! If they catch you escaping it will be even worse. If you have an outward ticket to the US ready, you might not need to spend more than a couple of nights in IDC. We certainly don't want a discussion here about the details on how to escape the Thai law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 George has given you the best advice you'll ever get. The outcome of getting caught doing a runner is not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpager2000 Posted January 4, 2004 Author Share Posted January 4, 2004 Well, Maybe not, So we can discuss places to cross into cambodia or elsewhere where you dont go through thai immigration, Ive heard there are islands in cambodia or myanmar where you just pay the entry fee for their visa and enter, no thailand involved, can anyone detail this for me. My family needs me, Ive been here for a year and a half. Please post some HELP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 No details will be provided in this open forum. Thread closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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