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2 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

they could not give me any firm dates

Thanks - just watched  a review from Aus, for the money seems very interesting 

Does anyone have a comprehensive list of EV's currently available in Thailand? perhaps including those that will be available within the year? Domestically available only 

25 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

I spoke with a number of senior BYD staff (not sales girls)  at the recent Korat EV show and they could not give me any firm dates. Wheels are in motion but there is clearly a lot of Thai paperwork to wade through first.  

within the year?

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

You should watch this a little more carefully to see how silly it really is. 

 

 

 

 

The elephant (s) missing from that room are the following points - 

Where do the materials come from to make said batteries? 

How & who are mining these?

Afore mentioned magical elements are finite - unless they are the magic ones then I shall shut up?

Huge (like PROPER BIG) increases in power consumption require (to the astonishment of no-one) more power which comes from?

That said I would and am considering an electric vehicle as a 2nd car - I have the ability to charge at home, I'm home daily & my daily commute is 50 km max 

8 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

As I have previously posted here (page 1 of this thread) BYD plans to build a right hand drive EV factory in Thailand and so would be eligible for Thai EV incentives

 

They have just launched a BYD Thailand website which gives us an indication of what cars will be available in Thailand.       

 

 https://www.bydthai.com/en/

 

The car that interests me most is the BYD Han with it's 76.9 kWh Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) Blade Batteries and V2L (Vehicle to Load). It is also available as a PHEV which is probably explains the reference to 1,400km range in the video below!

 

The base EV model is rear-wheel drive with a reported (NEDC) of 605 km (376 mi). It is powered by a 163 kW (219 hp) electric motor that can accelerate from 0 to 100 kph in 7.9 seconds. There are two versions of this base model: the basic "Luxury" model costs USD $32,800, while the more featured "Majestic" model costs USD 36,500 with extra advanced driver-assistance systems, blind spot detection, better stereo systems and other comfort options.

 

The high-performance "Flagship" model is four-wheel drive with an additional 200 kW (270 hp) front motor, bringing the total power output to 363 kW (487 hp), and reportedly can accelerate from 0 to 100 kph in just 3.9 seconds. It is rated at a NEDC all-electric range of 550 km (340 mi) with more added features than the "Majestic" model, and costs $40,000.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

still no information on potential release dates

5 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Not too surprising, with the obvious 'lack of support' and I guess Indonesia having 4X the potential customers than Thailand didn't hurt either.  Having the 4th largest population of the world.

 

China

India

USA

Indonesia

 

If anything, it shows how screwed up and volatile India appears to the business community.

India is a tough crowd for sure

42 minutes ago, FriendlyFarang said:

Actually the BMI is still accurate. There are of course exceptions (bodybuilders etc.), but for the average person it is.

You can still be healthy and relatively fit if you are in the "overweight" range, but anybody who is in the obese category will definitely have quite big deficits.

And on average a person in the "normal" range will be more healthy than one who is overweight or obese.

 

India so worried about 23% of their population having a BMI >25, while according to a quick Google search in the USA it seems to be about 70%.

BMI may be accurate (depending on what arbitrary criteria one uses to measure and define by) but it is still nonsense - 

16 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Not too bad, falls into the overweight range

BMI - is one of the most ridiculous ideas for modern times! This has barely been changed since its inception in the 1830's! The fact that median average height, "size" and overall health of the population has increased is barely taken into account.

16 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I only buy margarine imported from Australia, and with an olive oil or canola base.

 

The argument rages on social media as to whether saturated fats or unsaturated oils are better health-wise, the Mediterranean diet supports the latter.

 

There is no such thing as a polyunsaturated fat, they are all oils. When manufacturers hydrogenate a polyunsaturated oil, then it becomes a saturated fat. And yes, trans fats are bad news.

 

You'll have to help me out with what CLA is, Google tells me it is a Mercedes model.

 

 

CLA - Natural transfat - Omega 6, can POTENTIALLY assist in weight loss. 

see one of many links 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4429457/

7 minutes ago, macahoom said:

I'd be interested to hear which ones you know that are charging.

 

 

The charging stations at some of my sons tennis venues is charging - (was a few weeks ago) in Phuket. One has a hotel connected, one does not

15 minutes ago, macahoom said:

Bear in mind that hotels with chargers are free to use. Even some restaurants.

not all - some are charging

Just now, macahoom said:

PEA VOLTA have recently increased the cost of DC (rapid) charging. 

It used to be between 4 and 5 baht, 24/7. (Can't remember the exact figure.)

They have now introduced off peak and peak rates:

Off peak: all day Saturday and Sunday and Mon-Fri, 10pm-9am = 4.5952 baht

Peak: Mon-Fri, 9am-10pm = 7.9778 baht.

As for the other suppliers, it was December that I last used one and they were all between 4 and 5 baht if I remember correctly.

seems quite a task to find the prices online - unless you need to register etc.....

23 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Been catching up on MG ZS EV vids on YT.   Came across this one, and very impressive Chiang Mai to Bangkok trip.

 

Previous trip he documented took 19+ hours ... ????

This trip, a very impressive 9 hrs 20 mins.   Due to more fast chargers along the route.

 

Very impressive, because I put CM to BKK in Gmap, and route now, daytime, is 8 hr 37 mins, so simply 1 extra hour.  

24:00 on the vid for final numbers & thoughts:

 

Wonder how this compares to the estate car? 

Also what was the price for the "fuel" consumption ?

1 hour ago, CLW said:

About fuel / electric consumption, look at some posts in this thread. 

Both for ICE and EV cars the manufacturer numbers are never to be trusted. 

They're take from a lab test, not real road driving. 

Anyone should know this or find out in a quick Google search.

 

About the entertainment, unless it's not outdated or insufficient hardware, it can be resolved with an automatic OTA update

again significant FUEL (gasoline) usage over manufacturers claims - again taking posters at their word

2 hours ago, macahoom said:

 

I’ve had the MGZS EV since September 2019. Almost all of my charging has been done at Central Festival for free, so if I quote the energy bill for my car it will not answer your question.

 

Maybe this will help: My electric at home costs about 4 baht per unit. If I charge my MG at home, it will cost me 150-180 baht per 300 kms. Of course, it depends how heavy your right foot is, and how efficiently you employ the brake regeneration.

 

Unfortunately, starting from this week, charging at Central is no longer free. It was good while it lasted!

 

Here are a couple of calculators which may help you. Unfortunately neither of them are set up for baht or kilometres - you’ll have to convert the figures to suit Thailand.

 

https://insights.leaseplan.co.uk/ev-tools/ev-cost-per-mile-calculator/

 

https://www.inchcalculator.com/electric-vehicle-charging-cost-calculator/

 

While I'm at it, let me mention servicing: MG did my 50,000 km service yesterday. There have been a total of 5 or 6 services since new. Only two were done in the dealership. The rest, including yesterday's, were done in my garage. The MG guys come to my house with nothing but a laptop. Brilliant!

 

All the services, except for one, have been free. The one I had to pay for was a little over 1000 baht. Also brilliant!

thanks a million - as my driving is very "hill heavy" i suspect I may be able to use a decent amount of re-gen ? Manik - Patong/Kathu daily I may also have the ability to trickle charge whilst at work 

On 5/18/2022 at 9:27 AM, macahoom said:

Maybe the cooler temperatures in the UK have a detrimental affect on the range.

 

In September, I will have had my MGZSEV for three years. 

 

I have consistently got better mileage that the officially quoted figures. 

 

For example:

 

1. Most of my driving is around Phuket. I'm getting 320kms on a full charge.

 

2. Here are figures for a trip I did in my MGZSEV; nearly all rural, winding roads; hilly in places.
 
Aircon on permanently. Eco mode. I toggle between the three KERS settings.
 
Distance travelled: 351.1 kms. Average speed: 59kph.
Driving time: 5 hrs 57 mins = 11.6kWh per 100kms.
 
With my 44.5kWh battery, that works out at a range of 383kms for a 100% charge.  

 

Note: The new ZS EVs have bigger batteries, so range will be significantly better.

 

I cannot fault the car. Brilliant!

 

 

What is your average energy bill for the car - im also in Phuket & seriously considering an EV as the second car

34 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Actually for that type of problem, the few podiatrists there are in Thailand would not be any real help.

 

What he needs is proper orthotics plus stretches. The stretches you can find online. For orthotics, you might try here (won't be cheap though)

https://www.phukethospital.com/orthotics-and-prosthetics/

thanks so much - will reach out to a few kinesiology people also 

53 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Podiatrists are very rare in Thailand.    Does  he need an actual podiatrist, or just orthotics?  If orthotics this place might suffice   https://www.instagram.com/fixifoot.phuket/?hl=en

 

Otherwise please give some details of the problem as he may have to come to Bangkok, or be treated by a non-podiatrist (e.g. ortho, dermatology or GP depending on the issue).

Yeah I know these guys, my issue is they have little in the way of understanding bio-mechanics and all in the way of band aids. In the short term this will be a fix, but his gait is off. He has a significant pronation in his step

Looking for a podiatrist in Phuket, this is for a young boy not an adult if this makes any difference

8 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

So not referring to GWMs OGC, but the hybrids.  Have to plead ignorance, and take the complaints at their word.   I know our MG ZS, unfortunately, is accurate, as rated at 11 kpL, and that IS what we get using E85.  Past ICEs here, (Vios & Mazda2) and we squeezed out 12+ to 15 kpL on really good drives.

Again - taking the posters at their word

4 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Disappointed in range is understandable for those that didn't do their research.  That's all EVs, not just OGC.

 

Any & every vid you see, states you won't get the rated range.  Especially if heavy use of AC, or worse, using the heater in cold weather countries.

 

NEDC = Not Even Damn Close.  Range rating of 400kms, and personally I wouldn't expect much more than 200 kms on the highway at speed.  NEDC's average testing speed is 37 kph.  WTLP's is at 47 kph.  That's barely knocking around town speeds.  Do 100 kph on the highway, and you ain't going near that NEDC 400 or WTLP 320 (?) km rating.

 

I have a couple more countrywide out & abouts planned, within the year, with the ICE.  Then see what's on offer next year, hopefully better specs & same pricing, before jumping on the EV bandwagon, as it will be mostly for knocking around town, and local (<100 kms) out & abouts.

The issue was with the ICE fuel consumption - not the electric range. 

On 5/12/2022 at 4:28 PM, CLW said:

They're probably referring to the one widely reported malfunction of an Ora Good Cat somewhere on a mountain road in Thailand. At least all of my Thai friends telling me this story repeatedly.

To be honest, one faulty car (and probably due to a driver error), out of how many working ones? Would somebody make a news about a faulty Toyota or Mazda? 

Nope, most seem to be around the fuel consumption and the infotainment/ screen issues.