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Current information = same story it's been for living memory
You will pay 30-80% import duty on whatever customs deem your car to be worth. You will then pay excise tax and interior tax on top, and once all that's calculated, another 7% VAT. Then you have the hassle/expense of registering the car, and the extreme danger of driving an LHD car around Thailand, ongoing hassles with parts/servicing, and a car that no-one wants to buy when it's time to move on..
Oh, and the time you'll lose in the red tape jungle - if you value time
As everyone else has suggested (except for naboo who wants to read your future diatribe on how it all went wrong
), just buy a car here.Apart from al the money for tax and time and frustrations
Comming from a rightside driving country driving your old lhd car you will still have the idea on crossings turning left or right to take the wrong lane because thats where you make the mistakes ,only this is reason enough not to do this.
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There are some disadvantages its alowed to drive with a steering on the other side
but will be less relaxed to drive.
Another thing is you need to produce a receipt what you payed in the past ,based on this you need to pay the tax here.
Then we come to the transport office because you need it registrated in you provence and get thai license plates to.
Im almost sure your budget is short for the hole thing.
It will be taxed as luxury car because its a 4 doors its under 3000 cc what makes its not the highest tax class .
here is what I found.
If you look at the excise tax structure, the policy enables the most
commonly used vehicles by Thais such as motorbikes and working pickups (single and extended cab pickups under 3250cc)
to carry negligible tax of 3% (effectively 3.1%) because luxury
imported cars carry the most tax; Pickups over 3250cc or greater, E20
compatible and all other cars over 3000cc or >= 220HP are taxed 50%
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Why don't you try sell it private? You can put an add in ThaiVisa for free as a starter.
If you check the site one2car you will know what your car sell for at the dealers and can set your price accordingly.
I agree selling your car just using the freewebsites there are many of them only the prices on one2car are
al 10 to 30 procent to high go check this out yourself and you ll see it to.
Put your askingprice a little lower then they do and you get calls on it.
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While we are one the subject, how would you compare/rate the Toyota 3.0L diesel engine to the Isuzu 3.0L diesel engine and the Toyota 2.5L diesel engine with the Isuzu 2.5L diesel engine?
I'm not to much in the new cars myself but if I had to choose now I would still buy a 2.5 liter Toyota.
Its fast enough and use the same amount of fuel as the isuzu does.
I know this because sister of my gf and her dad they both bought a new car in 2008 .
Both 2.5 commonrail diesel engines handgears one D max and the other a Vigo.
The Vigo was cheaper some 65000 baht and they run like 1 to 15 on a liter.
So the Toyota and Isuzu 2.5L diesel engines got 15km/L?!! That's good! And not even close to the 2.5L '96 Mighty-X
Exactly there is big differents between the old diesels and the new your lucky to get 1 liter 10 km.
While the commonrails use a sofisticated injectionsystem developed by the germans in the past
Wich also alows a little higher compresion ratio and a turbo where the pressure is commanded by the motormanagment.
Optimized inlet and outlet trajects
They are more effective and also a little more powerfull because of this.
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Its a bit old topic but I still want to make a comment.
The BVN channel on Thaicom 5 is on a weak transponder so with the usual
used 1.50 or 1.80 meter dishes for the C band the thai normally use you get a bad signal.
Some times have clear vision sometimes when its clouded have nothing.
What you need is the 2.30 or even bigger dish there is also 3 meter.
Where talking around 7500 baht material here meaning a dish 5500,lnb 1000 and a simple reciever 1000 baht.
BVN is indeed on a weak transponder, however in the Pattaya area it comes in prefectly fine on a 7 ft dish (2.1 m).
all in system should be around 5,000 Baht.
Yep but you have almost same as I have, I have a 7.5 inch dish [2.30meter] well adjusted and this comes very close to
I have a signal of 52 procent on clear days now and a 48 procent on cloudy days.
Before with the 1.50 meter I was bored 50 procent of the time not reaching 20 procent most of the time
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The true is a commercialprovider companie if you think they can take this in there assortment
for instance on the KU band and let some dutch/flanders pay for it while its free to air on the C band.
Who are we to say otherwise.
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Its a bit old topic but I still want to make a comment.
The BVN channel on Thaicom 5 is on a weak transponder so with the usual
used 1.50 or 1.80 meter dishes for the C band the thai normally use you get a bad signal.
Some times have clear vision sometimes when its clouded have nothing.
What you need is the 2.30 or even bigger dish there is also 3 meter.
Where talking around 7500 baht material here meaning a dish 5500,lnb 1000 and a simple reciever 1000 baht.
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New models have the habbit of being confused a lot after disconnecting the battery .
Memorys of systems use very small amounts of current thats why.
Best idea is park the car not to far from 220 volt power and buy a simple 12 volt loader and if needed an extensionlead.
Load it [with not to high voltage this is also bad for new models ] one hour when your back and it will start.
That is what was worrying me, RR300. My old Passat would do all manner of strange things when the battery was discharging.
I think that your advice is the way to go, first time around at least.
I would still be very interested in hearing from anybody that has experience with the solar trickle chargers.
I have some pritty strange story concerning this item but have to admitt this is about mercedes and not japanese brands.
Just a jumpstart with a new mercedes helping someone out or some times need one yourself with it .
After this the complete electronic system of the car was in trouble and no resetting by yourself was possible just a drive to the dealer
could help you out and depending on the coulance of the dealer you had to pay for this or not.
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To be honest, LPG in Thailand does have a safety issue, not because of the fuel itself, but because the massive amount of cowboy installations.
Going as far as one installer thinking to make a quick buck and using a lpg tank in a cng installation.
Didn't survive the first fill up!
Proper installations are as safe, likely safer, then a normal petrol car...
Then there is still one big differents most western countrys have an annual check for cars then they also use the so called LPG snuffer
when your car has this fuel if there is the smallest leakage it will tell this and your car will not get a new year aproval. till its fixed
While here 2 transport officers go drive 5 year and older cars when you [if you come with the right car ]pay your tax.
Pretending to have technical knowledge and no have any tools to,
What happens when you come in the wrong car ?.
Then they say " mai pen rai " bring it next year ok krab.
For the tax they are very flexible .
When to put your name in the bluebook of your just bought car you don t come away with this.
Then they really need to see it.
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Honda diesels? That's a contradiction they still have to make their first decent one what they tried themselves and failed.
Its petrol only with them and build in a normal car to.My statement, 'Diesel engines, like Honda cars and Toyota and Isuzu trucks, rule here...." could have been worded better. Maybe, "Diesel engines, just like/along with Honda brand vehicles and Toyota and Isuzu trucks - rule here", would have been less confusing.
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The 2 others are masters in diesel engine building.
Yes the japanese rule here in Thailand when it comes to cars and bikes.
The popularity of the Isuzu is amazing at the moment guided by the government and commercials on TV.
People who bought one secondhand 5 years ago didn't lose any money or can even get more today.
Exactly!!
While we are one the subject, how would you compare/rate the Toyota 3.0L diesel engine to the Isuzu 3.0L diesel engine and the Toyota 2.5L diesel engine with the Isuzu 2.5L diesel engine?
I m not to much in the new cars myself but if I had to choose now I would still buy a 2.5 liter Toyota.
Its fast enough and use the same amount of fuel as the isuzu does.
I know this because sister of my gf and her dad they both bought a new car in 2008 .
Both 2.5 commonreal diesel engines handgears one D max and the other a Vigo.
The Vigo was cheaper some 65000 baht and they run like 1 to 15 on a liter.
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Its a case of you get what you pay for, the 3.0L straight 6 petrol engine is super smooth and quiet.
.... I have no information on fuel consumption but I would think the straight 6 petrol on LPG would becheaper to run than the Diesel due to the much cheaper price of LPG ?
I agree that LPG fuel economy should generally be better than diesel powered.
But, purely on a personal basis, if I were doing any engine conversion here in LOS, I would more than likely only upgrade to a 'better' diesel, unless it was a hands down high performance petrol, and even then - I would never convert it to LPG.
You say here in LOS ? is it because you feel Diesel is better than
petrol here ? although personally I prefer a 6 cylinder petrol due to
the smoothness and quietness it does concern me that petrol engines run
hotter than diesels and in a hot country like this the under bonnet
temperatures can get to an alarming state where fuse boxes, wiring, in
fact everything under the bonnet running at a much higher temperature
than I feel happy with.
Excellent points and once again, I agree, but I also believe the mfgrs have, in general, compensated for the heat factor as far as wiring and fuses, etc. but I do find the weakest component in this area to be the car batteries. Their life expectancy is not what Westerners are accustomed to.
In fact, an inline 6, 4.0L was to be my first LOS vehicle purchase. But as is the case with most other living choices here in LOS, I find that after narrowing down the parameters of any choice - (getting real), the (best) decision ultimately took in the 'realities here on the ground' which in this case came down to be: Diesel engines, like Honda cars and Toyota and Isuzu trucks, rule here via service networks and pricing mechanisms.
Honda diesels? Thats a contradiction they still have to make there first decent one what they tryed themselve failed.
Its petrol only with them and build in a normal car to.
The 2 others are masters in dieselengine building.
Yes the japanese rule here in Thailand when it comes to cars and bikes.
The popularity of the Isuzu is amazing at the moment guided by the goverment and commercials on tv.
People who bought one secondhand 5 years ago didn t loose any money or can even get more today.
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You have to try. If it's a Toyota it will not happen, but If it's another brand, nobody knows.
If its a toyota with a aftermarket alarm build in it can still happen
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Hi Lickey, thanks for the suggestion. The car has an automatic transmission, and yes, I actually have tried what you suggest, but it doesn't seem to ping when I do this. The pinging normally occurs when accelerating lightly while the car is moving relatively slowly, but in a high gear. For example, if the transmission has automatically shifted into 3rd or 4th gear, and then I allow the car to slow a bit, and then lightly accelerate, it will often ping because the engine is lugging a bit under the circumstances.
One thing that I've been pondering is whether it's possible to confirm whether the ECU (and/or any computer chips inside) are correct for the car. In that regard, I've heard from several Thais that a lot of computer chips get swapped around inside used mobile phones which are sold in the mom 'n' pop phone shops. The customer thinks they're buying quality equipment for a good price, but the internal components are inferior quality (and performance), and of course, much cheaper for the seller.
Because I didn't notice any pinging when I first bought the car, and only began to notice it at around the 6-month mark, I can't help but wonder if something related to the ECU got swapped out at some point. Because the newer cars will burn 10% or even 20% ethanol gasohol fuels, which are considerably cheaper than the benzene equivalent, I can't help but wonder if there's a black market for the ECU's (or the relevant chips inside) from the newer cars. Assuming these parts are physically compatible with older cars, the potential cost savings for the buyer could be substantial over time. If my 2011 ECU (or chips) were replaced with older versions at some point, it might explain the onset of the pinging.
Sorry if I'm sounding a little paranoid here, but I know how popular it can be to "cut corners" in this country, and as I mentioned earlier, I'm grasping at straws. Does anyone know how I can verify that I have the correct ECU and/or internal chips?
About the chips what these thais say using mobile phone chips this is typical thai ghost story.
No phone chip can be used in a car there functions are very different.
Your car wouldn t run at al if they would fit in the socket what I also doubt a lot.
What could have happend is they swapped it with a chinese tuning chip or so, one ment for the car or another car wich is the wrong one or bad quality.
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I have a new (2011) Toyota Vios with 5K kilometers on it, which has been
through both the 1K and 10K mileage checkups at the Toyota dealer with
no problems found. However, the engine is constantly 'pinging' (also
known as 'knocking', I believe), regardless of the fuel I use. I always
use at least grade 91 'benzene' (not gasohol), which is sometimes
marked as '91 Unleaded' at the pump. I took it to the dealership a
couple days ago and carefully explained the problem, but they
pooh-poohed it and said if there were any problems with the fuel/air
mixture (or anything else which could explain the pinging), there would
be a warning light on the driver's console. They ended up telling me to
get my fuel from either Shell or Esso, and to avoid the other fuel
stations. I then filled it up completely with '91 Unleaded' at the
nearest Shell station, and the pinging continues.My mom in law has a 2008 Toyota Vios also an automatic and its does the same thing
you describe here .
Me and my gf took it with us on a holiday in 2008 with very low milage on it at that time
Nobody else heard anything but me as a trained car-mechanic heard it right away.
We used 95 petrol fuel only from several branches PTT ,Shell,and others it just stayed.
At this day she run over 300.000 km with it she drive al over the country for her job
So if its any comfort for you its still knocking but also still running ok.
No serious repairs so far concerning the engine.
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New models have the habbit of being confused a lot after disconnecting the battery .
Memorys of systems use very small amounts of current thats why.
Best idea is park the car not to far from 220 volt power and buy a simple 12 volt loader and if needed an extensionlead.
Load it [with not to high voltage this is also bad for new models ] one hour when your back and it will start.
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To be honest, LPG in Thailand does have a safety issue, not because of the fuel itself, but because the massive amount of cowboy installations.
Going as far as one installer thinking to make a quick buck and using a lpg tank in a cng installation.
Didn't survive the first fill up!
Proper installations are as safe, likely safer, then a normal petrol car...
Then there is still one big differents most western countrys have an annual check for cars then they also use the so called LPG snuffer
when your car has this fuel if there is the smallest leakage it will tell this and your car will not get a new year aproval. till its fixed
While here 2 transport officers go drive 5 year and older cars when you [if you come with the right car ]pay your tax.
Pretending to have technical knowledge and no have any tools to,
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Maybe black smog come from E20?
Nope benzine wont give black smoke and ethiel alcohol won t to.
What will happen is the rubber hoses you use now for the fuel will slowly desolve.
Aswell as rubber gasketts to if there are any of these in your fuel system.
If you let these changed by alcohol resistant ones and have a carburator engine
I think you can drive on this.
If you have an injection system for the fuel I woudn t do it at all when this pump
no matter mechanical or electronic go down your facing a serious repair.
Then I didn t even talk about the injectors itself.
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my 2 cents on this subject
5000 bath material
10000 bath labor
Do the maths
Regards
In holland pay 7k for just a liter paint right dutch?
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Those days from up to 10 layers like Rolls Royce did they used a different paintsystem to.
A system where the glow gets deeper and more shiny after each layer.
The paint here in Thailand used now is the paint the western world has ruled out almost
Just mix it with thinner and start spraying it will dry very fast.
With a 3 way system you need a groundlayer then the collor then the finishing layer for the
protection and the glow.
Al very economical and simple.
While the waterbased ones we use now in the west makes it al far more expensive
You need a special created cabine t to get it dry with a high temperture.
Then it still takes 24 hours.
Simply because water doesn t evaporate as easy as thinner does.
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Sorry but you're mistaken. 95 is better and cleaner fuel - is the myth being told on every pump in north america. Higher octane does not make fuel better or cleaner, it makes it burn slower which helps prevent predetonation and engine knock in high performance engines (those with high compression ratio or with forced induction). That's why race engines require race fuel with octane way beyond the 100 and that's why those race cars shooting the flames out of exhaust once in a while - fuel burns so slow that it keeps on burning once it left the combustion chamber.Your conversion has to do with the valves seats who are hardened and the higher octane has to do with
a better and cleaner type of fuel with better knock resistance for the combustion.
And the old led protection fuel days are over long time ago if i m not mistaken
In fact if the engine is designed to run on 91 it will achieve the best performance in 91 (if it's properly tuned), 95 will slightly decrease the performance but its so slight that its not noticeable. There are no benefits at all using 95 in place of 91.
Alcohol by itself is a slow burning fuel with lower BTU than petrol and using gasohol 91 or 95 is equally not healthy for the engines not designed to run on gasohol as the alcohol in it will rotten out the rubber and plastic components of the fuel system over time. The only cure is to replace those rubber and plastic parts with those able to withstand contact with alcohol and I've heard there are conversion kits for this.
No benifits ? Sure there are benefits car manufacters are developing more fuel efficient engines even in the USA .
So the oilcompanies need to adapt on this to and change to 95 and 98 only because of these new engines.
Simply not enough engines [the more inefficient ones]run best on the 91 anymore.
In other words there is a guge indirect benefit in a lower world wide oil consumption.
Maybe the fuel isn t better and cleaner but in combination with the new engines it is.
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I'm trying out this method on my ancient car...as I said before is bloody hard work and my results are no where near as good as rickwrench's...but if it keeps the rust at bay for a while then I'm happy ( well kind of )
Some before photos
The paint is coming off in sheets and
running like they sprayed it with some sort of water based paint.
I don t believe in this thing at al 6 layers means at least 6 times sandpapering and a lot of polishing afterwoods.
Count the real cost I would say instead of 50 dollars like 10 days not working a pile of sandpaper and a lot of polisher
and a polishing machine to and on top of it if its your only car you need to hire another car because yours the paint isn t dry and the parts are mounted out.
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Its a case of you get what you pay for, the 3.0L straight 6 petrol engine is super smooth and quiet.
.... I have no information on fuel consumption but I would think the straight 6 petrol on LPG would becheaper to run than the Diesel due to the much cheaper price of LPG ?
I agree that LPG fuel economy should generally be better than diesel powered.
But, purely on a personal basis, if I were doing any engine conversion here in LOS, I would more than likely only upgrade to a 'better' diesel, unless it was a hands down high performance petrol, and even then - I would never convert it to LPG.
Then you better stay on Diesel same go s for me Petrol is to expensive I got one car on diesel and the other LPG
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Its a case of you get what you pay for, the 3.0L straight 6 petrol engine is super smooth and quiet.
Even
a brand new Vigo diesel engine sounds like a bag of nails running next
to the straight 6 petrol. in fact the straight 6 on tick over is
inaudible from within the truck, the only way to know its running is by
looking at the rev counter.
I have no information on fuel
consumption but I would think the straight 6 petrol on LPG would be
cheaper to run than the Diesel due to the much cheaper price of LPG ?
Its almost same is my experience 13 baht for a liter lpg and 30 baht for a liter diesel.
Where you can save some money specially when you drive a lot is oil and oilfilter changes with a
diesel you need to do this on time always or you get punished sooner or later with a damaged engine.
While with LPG the oil stay clean for a very long time because of the much cleaner combustion inside.
So just a filter change once a year and oilchange every 2 years and your fine.
On the other end the diesel will outrun the Petrol engine when it comes to life expectentie
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Hi, I am wanting to buy a truck here in Thailand, what type visa do you need or does it matter. I would be buying for cash, no bank financing. Thanks any good advice will be appreciated.
If you don t have or want it put on someone else its name, because in that case you no need any visa.
I think you need a 1 year non immigrant visa and there about 10 different types of this they say.
Nissan Almera Lpg
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How about volvo?
They back it up in the USA as in Europe as long as you use the right LPI system .