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I have linked it a few time before, no question that the 97% figure was a result of dishonest methodology. Today I am too busy to play. So if you need to know right now, Google is ready to serve.

And everyone thought Henry Ford was a genius. He wasn't.

The real genius was one of his employees who came up with the concept of "last years model".

Roughly a hundred years ago.

Perhaps you don't realize that Mr. Ford made the same model T for 19 years and made all the newer better parts with the ability to be retrofitted into older models. Meaning that it didn't matter which Model T you had, you get new parts for it and everyone new how to fix them.

Ford's philosophy was to make it the most practical, most affordable, and the most simplistic vehicle, using ever increasing factory efficiency to drive the prices to the lowest possible point.

A total alien philosophy compared with today's gadget market

The 97% was a fabrication, well documented.

The science of medicine is conducted in laboratory conditions with many trials and is falsifiable.

Climate science is highly theoretical, cannot be falsified, and trails cannot be run. So far all the climate models have been wrong and there is a tremendous emotional and ideological component involved.

Medical science and climate science are chalk and cheese.

What part of your anatomy do you use to hold them?

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The Emirates CEO seemed to strongly imply that the aircraft was stolen by remote. At the very least, his comments are a strong confirmation that this is possible. He does own more triple 7's than anyone else.

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DNA testing can be done in hours. Commercial labs turn it around in less than 3 days with no rush put on it.

100's of tests would obviously take longer.

From the "we will complete the investigation in3 days " statement it was right at 3 days.

The burden of proof is on you JD, I did a search and everything I found so far says, 5 -10 days. That is for the test not because of backlog. Hopefully there is a knowledgeable poster her who can clear this up.

Getting it done in hours JD? Links please.

Quite a few dumb arguments about storage of DNA. You don't need to keep a sample once you have the results stored digitally.

Do you think the police retest everyone's DNA every time the run a cross reference? You would only need to retest if the authenticity is questioned. Which of course we know that the 'Somchi's Crime Lab Express' results of the two Burmese guys is absolutely in doubt, simply because it is impossible for them have made the test in the time period. between arrest and announcement of DNA match.

Wrong about the time frame claim.

The rest of the argument was regarding civil liberties I think.

If you remember correctly they said they would have the case solved in three days. One day later, they had arrested the Burmese guys based on CCTV evidence of them buying a pack of smokes. And the next day the police reported that the DNA was a match. You can not do DNA testing in 24 hours. No matter how much you beat the suspect. Information I have seen says it requires more than 48 hours.

Perhaps some other posters could help me to confirm that.

Even the NGO's were stating the same thing when they made complaints about the frame-up of these Burmese boys.

Quite a few dumb arguments about storage of DNA. You don't need to keep a sample once you have the results stored digitally.

Do you think the police retest everyone's DNA every time the run a cross reference? You would only need to retest if the authenticity is questioned. Which of course we know that the 'Somchi's Crime Lab Express' results of the two Burmese guys is absolutely in doubt, simply because it is impossible for them have made the test in the time period. between arrest and announcement of DNA match.

Conspiracy

This thread sure has legs

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Meanwhile Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper has jumped in stating that Canadians should prefer back bacon and beer.

Double post, crap connection!

Here a pic from one of the 6 Burmese whom police asked a few question..enough evidence, further picture was handed to the Burmese Embassy

Crikey, that is pitiful - I would have admitted to killing my grand mother if that was done to me!

I've had worse from my three year old niece.

Anyone would have thought that it was possible that the other Burmese man could have scratched him to produce that deep wound (I'm not suggesting he did of course, no actually that's a lie, I am) - lucky he never severed his artery with that scratch.

So the BIB scratch their victims to gain a confession of rape and murder - this gets funnier by the minute!!!.

SO Steve, would you say then that this was a totally acceptable amount of burning and the Police used and appropriate amount of boiling water to extract information? Would you also say that these Burmese guys are just being little sissy boys and they really just suck it up? Perhaps they should be happy with the restraint the police have shown them.

These bikes are easy to defend and easy to hate, but the truth is that the only reason to buy one is if you can't afford a Honda or Kawasaki.

The Japanese bikes are wildly superior in every way, so if you can afford one, buy one.

If you can't afford a Japanese bike, buy a Lifan and be happy that you have something to play with. ...but don't buy a Lifan Cross because you think it's better value by comparison. It's not.

Most people on this thread would disagree on the VFM front

Yeah, I think you're right, and in certain circumstances they have a point . The problem, though, is that people keep saying they are making Value for Money comparisons when they are actually only making price comparisons.

For example, you say that you can buy 3 Lifan's for the price of one KLX. That's true, but it's just a price comparison. For me, the Lifan is cheap, but, in the end, not good value. Here is why...

I live in Pattaya. and there is an Enduro club that rides off into the mountains on the weekends. I really, really want to join them, but I never do.

The reason I don't join them is because I have no doubt that the Lifan will break down back in the mountains, ruining the day for everyone. So, for me, I don't care if I could buy 3 Lifans or 300 Lifans for the price of a KLX. If I have a bike that I don't ride because it's to unreliable, then the bike has very little value.

If you're wondering why I think it's so unreliable, here is why...

My LIfan Cross has 23,000K on the clock. Here is a short history...

clutch blew out after about 3 months

clutch cable snapped 3 times

the front bearings blew out

I've replaced the front brake caliper 3 times! (finally I swapped the Lifan caliper with a KLX caliper)

the front headlight assembly had to be replaced (now it has a Yamaha headlamp holder)

the throttle stuck wide open once as I was approaching a red light (nothing wrong, just cheap throttle construction)

the battery had to be replaced

and...about 3 months ago I was driving down the highway at about 85kph and the bearings in the engine failed. The inside of the engine was pretty beat up. It was going to cost about 7k to rebuild it.

Instead of rebuilding it, I just bought a new engine...the Cross 200 is now a Cross 250!

Of course, just because the Lifan is not good value for me doesn't mean that it's not good value for you. For example, if you just plan to ride around on village roads, it will be fine.

I tried treating this bike like it was built with Japanese quality...and it's proven that it just can't take it. Here are some of the trips...

1200 km trip from Buriram down to the Cambodian border...

http://www.liveinasiablog.com/2012/08/buriram-to-khlong-yai-my-3-day-1200-km-motorcycle-ride/

3000 km trip from Buriram down to Southern Thailand...

http://www.liveinasiablog.com/2013/04/touring-thailand-on-my-motorcycle-day-1/

http://www.liveinasiablog.com/2013/04/touring-southern-thailand-on-my-motorcycle-day-2/

http://www.liveinasiablog.com/2013/06/touring-southern-thailand-on-my-motorcycle-days-3-and-4/

http://www.liveinasiablog.com/2013/06/touring-southern-thailand-on-my-motorcycle-days-5-6/

Great Comments Ryan.

I am surprised however that you had clutch and engine problems. This is the first I have heard of someone having drive train trouble with a Lifan. As for the rest, I have had similar problems.

Happy to hear you can swap out the front brakes for a KLX set. I recommend that, the fron brakes are garbage.

What bike did the 250CC engine come from, and how much was that?

Yes Allan change the seat. And for tires decide what percentage of time you will be off road. Street tires would be a big help on the black top.