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11 minutes ago, WDSmart said:
I agree, and I hope you will also agree it was the IDF that KILLED the "human shields," not Hamas.
Human shields are to stop people with any conscience from attacking. IDF attack... Not caring and actually rejoicing as seen in videos.
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10 minutes ago, WDSmart said:
My remark was in reference to your post blaming the killing of "human shields" on Hamas. The IDF is the group that is killing them. Hamas did put them there, but so did the Israelis allow the concert near the border with Gaza. I'm not blaming Israel for that, but if you use the same argument as you do about "human shields," you could.
Good point. Not so much human shields but like flies, baiting Hamas.
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54 minutes ago, WDSmart said:
No need to contact any of the news media. They all know this. It's just some on this topic that think all this began on Oct 7, 2023.
They are clutching at the only straw they have. Sad actually.
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9 minutes ago, WDSmart said:
Yes, the "basics" are that Isreal has been seizing Palestinian land since 1949...
That's when all the trouble started.
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8 hours ago, Jingthing said:
You wish.
No, I like most human beings with no skin in the game, want peace and a fair resolution.
You are biased, because if your ethnicity, nationality and religion.
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2 hours ago, ozimoron said:
Deputy Knesset speaker Nissim Vaturi from the ruling Likud party wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter, that Israelis had one common goal, “erasing the Gaza Strip from the face of the earth.”
They are on course, thanks to the USA, who vote against ceasefire, provide the IDF with $billions and make the weapons that IDF use to reach their goal.
Not a good time to be an Israeli or Yank. Shame on you.
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7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:
The priority for Israel now is war.
This war that Hamas started.
And the rest of the world is telling them to stop, including the US, who support them financially and give them bombs. Even the POTUS said they were bombing indiscriminately!!
This will not end well for Israel.
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1 minute ago, Jingthing said:
Winning means being free of worrying about further October 7 type attacks for many many years.
Israel's long-term security depends on its ability to engage constructively with Palestine, uphold democratic values, and work towards a just and sustainable peace in the region. Sadly, they are not doing this and just care about getting the land, at any cost.
Do you condone Ethnic cleaning?
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4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:
What would the UN do if they didn't have Israel to kick around anymore?
What are you on about? Israel benefits from the UN - diplomatic support, peacekeeping, humanitarian assistance, and development cooperation.
The UN address human rights abuses and violations of international law committed by Israeli, more than other countries as erm ..... you know why.
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3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:
Exactly.
They need to win to survive as a nation.
A country like the US can afford to lose wars.
Israel loses one and its over.
How on Earth do you think Israel could not win?
Gazans at at their mercy.
Do you support the US supporting Israel in this conflict?
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Kick Israel out the UN, this is shocking!
UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres has made a renewed call for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.
"I want Palestinians in Gaza to know: You are not alone. People around the world are outraged by the horrors we are all witnessing in real time. Palestinians in Gaza remain stuck in a non-stop nightmare," he added.
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1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:
Poll results were also hawkish when it came to the use of force in Gaza: 57.5% of Israeli Jews said that they believed the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) were using too little firepower in Gaza, 36.6% said the IDF was using an appropriate amount of firepower, while just 1.8% said they believed the IDF was using too much fire power, while 4.2% said they weren’t sure whether it was using too much or too little firepower.
Most Israelis think the IDF are using too little force!!!
Oh dear, speaks volumes.
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At least 19 Palestinians have been killed in an Israeli attack targeting civilians who were waiting for aid southeast of Gaza City, Gaza’s Ministry of Health and its Media Office said.
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Just now, WDSmart said:
No, I do admit that Hamas is losing this "war." That's apparent. However, since Hamas also holds 300+ hostages and is getting more and more of the world on its side because of the appalling actions of IDF in Gaza, they are still in a position to accept an agreement that will include a permanent/sustained ceasefire and exchange of hostages/prisoners. Then, with the support of their new allies or at least the waning of the support of Israeli allies, maybe there can be an agreement on a two-state solution. We'll just have to wait and see what happens here.
It's so sad that they had to take drastic measures just to stop the Israel aggression. At least the world can see them for what they are now.
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9 minutes ago, ozimoron said:
As a kid I cheered on Israeli in the 1967 war. Why focus on what kids do? We played cowboys and indians when I was a kid. The cowboys were always the heroes. I read war comics which were appallingly racist propaganda.
It was on Israeli state TV!
The Video is sung in Hebrew but you can Google it
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Israeli+children+Gaza+state+TV&l=1
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1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:
Agree this is not 100% on topic and I will not expand on it, but in these examples we are talking about discriminatory policies implemented by the government, as well as widespread racist behaviour by the auhorities and population.
Israel prides itself on being a homeland for the Jewish people, non-Jews are discriminated against in all areas, especially in the immigration process.
Israel's legal framework and status as a Jewish state are unique. A Thai Buddhist could not get Israeli citizenship, yet an Israeli can get Thai citizenship, I know a Rabbi who is a naturalized Thai.
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1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:
Chief rabbi calls black people ‘monkeys’
In footage aired by the Ynet news site, Yosef could be seen referring to black people by the word “kushi,” which in modern Hebrew has pejorative connotations, and then going on to term a black person a “monkey.” His office told Ynet that the comparison was a quote from the Talmud.
[...]Non-Jews, Yosef said, are in Israel only to serve Jews.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/chief-rabbi-compares-african-americans-to-monkeys/
Wow.
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2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:
Only the obvious desire to make Gaza uninhabitable for Gazans. Israeli officials are on record (in the ICJ) as saying that Gaza belongs to Israel.
Did you see the video of Israeli kids singing on Israeli state TV about Gaza?
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2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:Thanks for that.
Many overlook the inequalities and power imbalances that have perpetuated Palestinian's struggle for self-determination and basic human rights. Palestinians have faced displacement, occupation, and numerous human rights violations, including restrictions on movement, land confiscation, and the expansion of illegal settlements.
Those who say the war started on Oct 7 are conveniently forgetting the atrocities Israel committed in the last 20 years. You cannot treat human beings like what Israel did and be surprised when they fight back.
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30 minutes ago, ozimoron said:
Is there a reason they are targeting schools?
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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:
Tell that to the families of the Israeli war dead from this war.
Hamas started this war.
The point of war is to win.
Would you complain about too many dead Germans in WW2?
Firstly, I wouldn't call this a war, how many Israelis have died since Oct 7 and how many Gazans?
It is like the Gazans are locked into their given area and the Israeli army are killing them off 10, 20, 100 at a time. They can't defend themselves and they have nowhere to go, it is a slaughter.
Surely you don't think the Oct 7th event happened for no reason?
No, the Germans started the war.
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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:
Hamas invaded Israel and intends to murder all Jews.
Israel is defending itself too.
But I get. You don't think the world's one tiny Jewish state has that right.
My point was Gaza can't defend itself.
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Great news, as I recently renewed my Thai passport to a ten year one.
I'll be able to tell the UK authorities I remain in the UK, if I use my Thai passport to travel there.
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2 hours ago, ezzra said:
The Palestinian Authority controlled the Gaza Strip prior to the Palestinian elections of 2006 and the subsequent Gaza conflict between the Fatah and Hamas parties, when it lost control to Hamas, the PA continues to claim the Gaza Strip, although Hamas exercises de facto control,
Just to remind you that the Palestinians depends on Israel for almost all life's necessities as the're unable to provide for themselves,
Israel would love nothing better than to get rid of this cesspool of a place and let them fend for themselves but they can't,
Also, Hamas didn't have any problems bringing tones of war materiel and weapons through tunnels and from Egypt,
they could have just as well use this methods for doing good, no evil,
To cut a long story short, as long as Hams and its masters Iran are there controlling everything,
no peace process will work,as 7.10 will only repeat itself again and again.. get the terrorist out and all will
have a very good chance to be well.. Can you argue with that?...
Total nonsense.
Your greed for land will be your downfall.
An investigation by Al Jazeera shows how Israeli settlers have been expanding in the occupied West Bank at unprecedented rate, since Israel’s war on Gaza began.
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Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)
in The War in Israel
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Human shields should never be accepted as collateral damage or justified in the pursuit of military objectives.