CheGuava

Nah, I can't tell you how many times I have been warned about going out drinking with Thai men (by other foreigners here in Thailand). It isn't just the missionaries, it appears that many foreigners here are rather afraid of mixing socially in a mostly Thai setting.

Agreed. It's almost everyone. From what I've seen, only a small minority regular frequents places outside of the tourist/Farang scene. This may not be a bad thing, though.

What on earth re you on about?

Local Thai restaurant serving wine ......... ha ha .... that's a good one.

Mont Clair have been pretty active in their marketing recently. A lot of places ended up with a box or two. It's not the best wine in the world (mild understatement), but not the worse either.

I'm quite surprised that TV allows such blatant anti-Thai posts.

The forum is rife with anti Thai posts and posts just being needlessly denigrating to anything Thai, to the point that it doesn't even register to most people including our forum stewards. Only when some complete wack job starts screaming in all caps is action taken, but all the little jabs just go by unchallenged. Pointing it out each and every time would be a full time job.

I prefer hiking up the trail. But, I can definitely say I would NOT do it at night.

People use the main road to walk up during this one, not the trail through the forest.

And I'm 27 too. Don't listen to all these 'all girls at bars are hookers types'. Normal girls enjoy going out and having a drink too. Use your gut and you will be ok. Plenty of girls who work, or don't go to uni that aren't hookers as well.

Just because a thai girl can speak some english, also doesn't mean she's a hooker. Could also mean she works in the tourist areas, outside the P2P crap. Don't know why people forget that.

But why worry, hookers are a lot of fun!

(and you know how much it will cost in advance)

You do?

Che Guevara: Note that I'm not saying this is any kind of unacceptable outrage, just that anyone who thinks that there are no under-age girls on Loi Kroh would be wrong.

Like i said, in 5 yearsof living on Loi Kroh Rd, I have never seen or heard of underage girls working here and nor has my wife who chats with our fellow bar owners regularly.

Stone's throw from your place!! We're not talking total children here, they look just like any other bargirl South of 22 or so years old.

I would entertain the hope that you have long since reported them to the appropriate authorities.

I didn't, in this case. For starters I don't know for a fact that they do anything other than serve drinks and play pool. Secondly I'm not al all convinced that being hauled away by Thai police is actually something they would appreciate. No wait, I'm entirely sure that it would be pretty devastating. So I take the same attitude as everywhere else at any small night-life venue: live and let live. Clearly we are not talking about young children or any kind of nasty/forced situation, then there would be clear benefit in sending in the cavalry. This place has more of an extended-family feel.

And then there's another place that had a 16 year old working there until very recently. There are a couple others who may also not quite be 18 but I never really talked with them enough to find out for sure. (I don't typically make an effort to find out, but sometimes it comes up in conversation. Or they volunteer their Chinese star sign, which of course gives the exact year away. Or I friend them on Facebook and they have their date of birth in their info.

This idea that Loi Kroh Rd is a centre of underage prostitution would be laughable if it weren't such a serious issue

I don't think anyone said it's a center for under-age anything. However there are several 15-16-17 year olds around.

The absence of such girls has little to do with 'god botherers' or NGO types and much more to do with the fact that the er, shall we say, more mature ladies who work the street would soon chase them away.

Maybe the flower selling kids yes if they come inside a bar. Maybe. But definitely not if they're staff at a bar or massage shop.

Note that I'm not saying this is any kind of unacceptable outrage, just that anyone who thinks that there are no under-age girls on Loi Kroh would be wrong.

Why does a professional agent warrant paying more in commission ? It's only due when he finds a sucker customer. Once you find a customer willing to buy at the price you want, it does't really matter who found him right, as long as you got the sale? You can even offer this to multiple people; whoever finds the sale gets the baht..

im sure the tv member ment that there are a lot of god bothers here that have nothing better to do than spoil our fun or spoil thais making a living no one was suggesting that sex with underage girls

is a good thing of course its not and anyone that does should be locked up

but the mob going around poking there nose in really need to find something better to do maybe get laid ?

they say we give the bar girls options id love to know what these options are a job in a 7-11 maybe lol

What's wrong with a job at 7-11?

Tuk tuk driver?

Tuk tuk drivers aren't even good at providing public transport, let alone anything else. And especially things that involve money.

Just a guess (speculation alert) it might be funded by foreign NGOs. Just like war on drugs is assisted by the USA (see signs for http://dea-rewards.com/lth/ up at a Mae Sai checkpoint) there is a lot of money available for helping to prevent underage girls and so on, and I know there is at least one team of Americans here with this task in mind. They may be right or they may be mistaken but they do have a lot of funds and they can't do anything without the police.

As much as I would like to believe that, there are plenty underage girls on Loi Kroh and.... they're all still there. So whatever the policy were doing, they're doing it wrong.

amykat may have hit too close to home on some of the TV members. I am a relative short timer (in human years) living in Thailand but what warning have been given are from real instances that I know of personally or have experienced.

Well, she was telling people that anyone happy building a house was getting ripped off by his hooker wife, wether they reallized it or not.

If you start posting flame-bait like that then clearly some flak is to be expected. Stuff like:

your Thai woman, or whatever, will probably be getting rich off commission, and not give a dam_n for several reasons ...could be because he/she is too stupid to give a dam_n, shit is what they are used to ...or could be she/he doesn't want to F' up her commission ...even though your Thai partner says she/he agrees with you, that is total BS ...they never think like us, they just say that.

Then the first person who politely raised an eyebrow got a: "Maybe you are one of the farangs here, who can't put more than 50 baht together on a daily basis, and feel the need to attack those of us who aren't broke whore-mongers?"

That's not a person hitting too close to home, or hitting anywhere. That's a person revealing some personal challenges that I do hope she gets a handle on.

Despite the ban, aren't restaurants permitted to have smoking areas? Still, worth calling the manager over to settle it as they'd potentially be up for a 20k baht fine if not permitted. Anyhow, you had the typical reaction from a smoker. Was in Gecko's a while back and three tables around us puffing away, zero thought for anyone else. Have those addicted to nicotine lost part of their brain?

Yes, they have.

I've seen the pictures. They're printed on cigarette packs in Thailand, helpfully.

We might be "OLD", but we aren't dead! :jap: You would probably be surprised to find out some of the crap we did in our younger days, things that you would go to jail for in this politically correct era.

Those years are long gone. Get yourself in jail RIGHT NOW and I'll issue some respect!

Just what the moderators want another topic having a dig at them.

But only VERY indirectly.

Agreed, very nicely done.

Also encouraging they're showing so many women, given the up-hill struggle Farang women tend to face in order to feel somewhat in place in Thailand.

But a word of caution....make sure that the person selling the property, even through a so called Estate Agent actually owns the property and is legally entitled to sell it. You would be amazes at some of the hearttbreaking Scams that have been perpetrated, not only to Farangs, but also Thai people.

And, perpetrated not only by Farangs, but also by Thai people.

Also, a real estate agent typically won't own the place, that's why they're called an 'agent'.

I would advise against this. These are emergency chemicals to be used in situations where you have no other option but to drink from a contaminated source such as a river or stream. As there can be all kinds of other things in there, and because it will end up tasting horrible, you really do not want to do this in place where you can just use bottled water.

So unless this is an expedition deep into Burma, just buy/bring bottled water.

Without the 8 it sounds more like Goolapanville which is older than the Koolpunt ones but in the same Hang Dong area, either side of the 121 right in the middle of this Google Maps page, but it definitely isn't an 8 as there's only one of them.

This is completely incorrect. My post above was correct.

"Goolapan" would be a closer approximation of how it's pronounced but there can be no doubt it's the same thing. For some reason the company went with a very doubtful romanization to 'Koolpunt', resulting in hordes of Farangs pronouncing it wrong. Anyway there are 16 or so of them, but only one on that stretch of the 121.

Other Koolpunt Ville developments in that area are 5 - 6 - 7 between the Hang Dong Road and Canal Road but further North (in between the Middle and Other ring) and Koolpunt Ville 9 which is further South on the Hang Dong Road, stretching damned near towards the river. (This one is huge).

Koolpunt Ville 8.

It's on the Outer Ring, the stretch between the Hang Dong Road and Canal Road.

So if you go down the Hang Dong road you turn right at the Samoeng Intersection. Then it'll be on your right hand side before you reach the Canal Road traffic lights. (Involves U-turn)

> 'moobaan gorapan' 8 (baad)

It's called baad for a reason!

Are you on public/municipal water supply or a commercial development's water system? Either way, did you check with your neighbours before posting here?

That's because they crash a lot.

I always see it a different way, for me if they were banned from flying (which they were) until they improved standards, then the standards set must have been very high in order for them to get a flying licence again. Im also sure that as they got the licence in order to fly again then they will be monitored very closly to make sure that they don't drop below standard.

For a minute there I thought I saw the words 'standards' and 'monitoring' in a site related to Thailand. Now I know I need to take my medication and go back to bed.

To spell it out: If I can buy a driver's license, an airline can buy a flying license. Different scale, but same shit.

That's because they crash a lot.

Furniture polish, where to find

Poland?

You can find that at Khamthiang Maket, check at the larger aquarium shops.

( Except for the 'ingenious bamboo pumps that run by themselves', for those you will need to find a magic shop. )

As an observation, there is nothing on the site of the Thai customs department stating that these are prohibited items. Other thigs of course are mentioned, such as 'obscene items', etc.

Just by anything else that's small and comes in various colors. Made out of any material: wood, ceramic, plastic.. doesn't matter. Think 'what would 8 year old boys do'; get creative and use anything to play.