RED21

Starting a DIY project and I need some 3M Scotchlite Sticker Sheets (preferably black, but white will do). Has anyone ever come across some here in CM? Directions would be very helpful.

Try the Feel Free kayak dealer in BKK, the local one in CM sells high quality tie down straps of many different lengths.

Like this style.

Directions to the local one in CM please...:jap:

On the side road, right across from the train station; look for the kayaks on display.

Thank you.

The "Quick Search" button does wonders...

Ye Olde Sea Foam Thread

The fastest I've had mine is 132 when I raced an older model on 118. Once I blew by him and could see him in the mirrors, I backed off the throttle, but still had some left before I did. I've been wanting to mount a camera to do a video, but I'm still looking for the right kind of brace for it. I'm thinking of buying a "clip on" computer lamp and making some mods to it and see if that works. But will have to get off my lazy, skinny butt first. hahaha.

Also, as Red said, you HAVE to watch the tach. The 150 will red line in 1st & 2nd VERY quickly if you aren't careful.

Doesn't the new 150 have a rev limiter? The old one did.

The engine lost its pull every time I reached just over the top of the red zone on the tach, could that be the rev limiter kicking in or just my instinct to ease off the throttle because of the engine sound?

Never mind... did a quick look through previous post, yeah it's the rev limiter that kicks in when the engine starts sputtering.

The Honda dealer in CM was selling refurbished Steeds for around 150K+ near the end of last year, around the same time they released the new CBR150, saw some when I placed an order for my CBR150, they all went missing from the display room the next month I came back to get my order.

Go Pro HD kits are available at Fast Corner (1st Floor Pantip Plaza) for a hefty price.

I can tell you the new 150 delivers a whole lot more "kick in the pants" through the lower gears than the old model.

But at what RPMs does it kick at, 5000 or 8000? Or is the powerband smooth throughout the rev range?

I'm just interested if it's set up like the old 150, or the new 250.

I think it kicks in at around 5000. As for the drop I don't really know, but I've put it on the red line accidentally on 3rd a couple of times (which is the reason why i learned to use the tach to shift gears and not trust my ears anymore, especially since it's difficult to hear the engine with a full face helmet.).

Incidentally, my colleague (the one who owns the red bike in one of the pictures I posted) approached me this morning to tell me he had already reached top speed on the bike. He said it was around 140 kph on a flat road, and around 160 kph downhill. He said he got up to 120kph on 5th before he shifted to 6th.

It will make it slightly more torquey and top speed will suffer a bit. Obviously cornering on dry pavement will improve. And unless compensated, the speedo will show slightly faster than actual, also making the odometer inaccurate.

Aesthetically, I have to say the difference in tire sizes is just awful looking.

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Thanks for your ideas. The front tire in the photo attached is flat--could that be what causes it to appear odd to you?

I agree, the front tire looks awful! A little wider would make it better.

Anyone else notice the price tag? B51,000.

Try the Feel Free kayak dealer in BKK, the local one in CM sells high quality tie down straps of many different lengths.

Like this style.

Directions to the local one in CM please...:jap:

Yeah I had never heard of a Ninja 150 either. A quick Google search reveals they may be called that in Indonesia and other markets.

Anyway, not available in Thailand for sure.

There used to be a couple of them available here in Chiang Mai years ago, 2 friends used to have those. One was converted to a street fighter (which incidentally was black) with my help and then sold to a local shop later when the owner left Thailand.

-No matter what Thais say, use the horn, it's there for a reason

And what DO Thais say about using the horn?

Using it may upset the social harmony of beautiful Thailand, and result in stab/bullet wounds.

Poor little things cant take being beeped at.

They actually have it on the video they show you when you get your driver's license...

I've been riding in the Chiang Mai province for quite a while now...

RANTS:

-Most of the time drivers us the wrong turn lights here, don't use turn lights or worse have broken turn lights (especially on older vehicles, like trucks).

-Lots of people drive on the wrong side of the road especially those not wearing helmets and those that don't know how to drive properly. I come across these very often and they just come at you with a big grin on their faces, like they'll be glad to have a head on collision with you. They drive on the wrong side of the road because either their scared, or too lazy to go use the U-turn ahead.

-Truck drivers have no respect for motorcyclists, actually they have no respect for everyone else on the road on the road they'll use their size to run you off the road. They usually like to use the fast lane even if they're prohibited by traffic rules to do so. The same goes for most local well-off SUV drivers. They will bully you off the road!

What you can do be a little safer...

-Check your bike before and after every ride

-Plan routes and try to avoid roads where there is a high concentration of idiots on the road

-Always stay on alert and identify potential hazards ahead , speed up or slow down as necessary (slow does not always mean safe)

-Always leave yourself an out

-Even when driving in the motorcycle lane, always expect a moron to come from the opposite direction, expect dogs coming at you or someone out of his mind lying on the road

-Don't get goaded into racing with other riders, on the street

-Never drink while driving (I know it's kind of difficult for most of us)

-No matter what Thais say, use the horn, it's there for a reason

-Be visible to the other drivers as much as possible (I know black is cool, but pink/orange/yellow is the new black... I guess that's why Yellow Corn jackets are popular among Thais even if they look like walking billboards)

-Always wear protective gear

-Always remember car vs bike in an accident, car always wins

-Most importantly, never be overconfident or overestimate your riding skill

I recommend reading "Proficient Motorcycling: The Ultimate Guide to Riding Well" by David L. Hough.

Been there for weeks and weeks.

Perhaps sold, but unlikely. According to Thai friends these big bikes are not popular amongst the general Thai population and also according to my friends (including a farang lawyer many here will know) the domestic Thai economy isn't actually in great shape.

With the Kwaka factory continuing to turn these out in a global recession expect a glut of them at some point. I've been after one for ages but have been hit on all sides by all things the past two years, not least the recession, estranged wife, house completions etc.

You know, never in my life do I get what I want. Last two bikes I had in Blighty, both stolen within a month or so of purchase. They even stole my MTB. Now these want to steal my house, land, kids, hell even my dog.

Moral of this tale of woe? Just don't bother having anything and if you see an ER6F for rent, rent it by the day.

The sun still shines upon my face.

At that price I'm sure it sold a long time ago. Want me to call in the morning to check for you?

Big Bikes aren't popular among the Thais?! What nonsense is that?! The big bike scene in Thailand is taking off like a rocket. Have you ever been to a bike week or motor show?

The Thai economy has weathered the "Global Financial Crisis" better than most and continues to grow. There are plenty of Thais buying big bikes and Kawasaki, Ducati, Triumph etc continue to post record sales here in Thailand.

Sounds like you're wallowing in self pity a bit. Perhaps even depressed? My ex-wife took the house and dog and getting her to agree to joint custody of our child was not easy, but I like to look at all the things I have gained (FREEDOM BABY!), and not all the things I've lost.

Life knocks you down, you just have to get right back up and keep going!

Ride On!

Tony

Just reporting what I'm told by others. Others that have businesses here. Yes, it has weathered the recession better than most but now I'm told it's starting to have an adverse effect. Guess the big bike scene will take off as there were no big bikes readily available before, makes sense.

Not self-pity, but it is wearing. My health has deteriorated with constant loss of blood sugar control, so far that driving the truck into town 75km and back finishes me off for a couple of days. Got a stack load of DIY staring at me and not had the energy to lift a finger for months.

Maybe one day, but right now it's about priorities. Trouble is if I leave a bike like that here, the nutty BIL (mad as a box of frogs, certified lithium job) will have a Valentino Rossi fantasy and rap the thing round the back end of a water buffalo.

All that said, it's still on the list for before I'm forty.

Well said Tony... well said...

@MJP: Yeah, BiLs... I can relate.

My wife and I once took him with us when I was buying bike to "help" me check it before I bought it. The salesperson asks if I had any requests after waxing and buffing the bike, so I told the salesperson I wanted him to degrease the brake disks. Seeing as my Thai isn't that highly advanced and likewise the salesperson's English wasn't, I told him to clean the brake disks. The salesperson gets confused. All of the sudden the BiL insults me in front of everyone in the shop and says something about me spurting out nonsense and that I didn't know a thing about bikes and my ignorance could kill me. So I explain in detail to the salesperson and my wife what I wanted. Suffice to say the BiL was embarrassed and he went sulking to a dark corner of the shop (that's what you get for telling someone who learned how to ride a motorcycle at 12, they don't know anything about bikes).

Fast forward a few minutes later... we're home and the bike has been delivered (I didn't want to deal with the traffic with a bike I'm barely familiar with). BiL goes on about if I really know how to ride the thing (I've never told anyone else about how I used to ride to the mountains back at home except my wife... she's also heard complaints from friends who've ridden pillion with me on a rented Ninja about me driving like a maniac). My wife probably got tired of him acting up (she agrees he's been spoiled rotten by their parents and that he's an ass) and tells him she thinks I would know since I've been riding motorcycles since fifth grade. That shut him up, BiL spends the rest of the day inside his house.

A few miles on the same bike and it needs to be serviced (oil change, etc.), my wife talks to my father-in-law to accompany me to the service center. BiL volunteers to go with me instead. Something weird happens as he's particularly nice to me that day, I become suspicious. He then tells my wife he'll go to the service center himself on the bike. He asks, with gusto, for the keys and the bike papers from my wife. Aha! he was probably planning to do so all along, then along the way fulfill his Valentino Rossi fantasies and show off to his asinine friends. To cut to the chase, I pull my wife to the bedroom to have a talk to her privately and told her I don't trust his brother with the bike, having seen that he could barely get out of the garage without stalling the engine ( I had him start the bike once and ride it a few meters just to indulge him). She just nodded and gives me the bike's maintenance book which I had her keep earlier. I go out, put a lock on both brake disks and cover the bike. The next day I plot my course to the service center with a map and go there alone. BiL was probably so PO'ed he stayed out for 2 days -- better him angry than my precious bike crashed .

Oh I forgot to mention..

The dealer also said in many more words, that there was another bike in Phuket with the same problem! He said I am one of only 2! I think he thought that would make me feel better.

Still... it is a problem and should be remedied... Especially since the bike is still under warranty and almost all of the other new owners have not encountered the same problem (Dom-appropriate, Brian-SumetCycle, or any other new CBR 250 owner?).

Maybe the dealer is waiting for the problem to grow to a point that it breaks something after the warranty runs out.

HISS -- I wonder how much would be the added cost if they had it on the 250. Even the 150 has better keys in IMHO.

They are using an engine derived from the 600RR though, but you're right no new tech on the bike...

After sorting through some passwords, I stumbled upon the old password Honda Europe gave me to access their online Virtual Press Office. It was given to me a few years back when I was still working for a motor sports magazine in the Middle East. Surprisingly, the password still works. As I was browsing the press information on their current line-up I happened to come across this:

Total control, unrivaled comfort

Since its introduction in 1987 the CBR600F has become a modern legend, renowned for offering exhilarating performance with user-friendliness on the road. It has achieved this by remaining true to the concept of total control – throughout its evolution the CBR600F has never lost sight of this guiding principle, because regardless of a rider's level of skill or experience, their riding satisfaction is linked directly to the motorcycle's ability to do exactly as they ask, when they ask. Only by building this trust can a machine be both accessible and rewarding for a broad range of different riders. It is not an easy goal to achieve, requiring a thoroughly integrated engineering approach. However it has resulted in a unique sports motorcycle: the CBR600F.

In 2001 the CBR600F Sport recognized that, for some riders, racetrack performance takes priority over practicality on the road. That bike pushed the CBR further from its all-rounder DNA than ever before, a shift completed in 2003 with the introduction of the first CBR600RR – an all-new motorcycle dedicated to the ruthless domination of the world's racetracks. But for 2011 the concept of total control returns with a new middleweight sports bike.

For the new CBR600F Honda engineers were assigned the task of combining the timeless qualities of the total control concept with the very latest motorcycle technology. In other words, create a CBR600F true to the ideals of its predecessors. It offers the neutral handling, near-Super sport levels of performance and the refinement and practicality so vital to the CBR's appeal. These qualities are combined with the rider and passenger comfort traditionally denoted by the 'F' in its name.

The CBR600RR could have been re-engineered to this new purpose, but why compromise such a single-minded machine? Instead the new CBR600F took as its start-point a compact all-alloy 599cc engine and Mono-Backbone aluminum frame. This high performance core package was then painstakingly developed to meet the new brief – to create a high performance 21st century road sports bike with the accessibility that has always defined the CBR600F.

Main Features

- Compact, lightweight 599cc liquid-cooled fuel-injected inline-4 engine tuned for class-leading power and linear delivery.

- Prestigious aluminum Mono-Backbone frame contributes to a slim, easy-to-handle and sporty chassis.

- Inverted front fork and aluminum swing arm for intuitive handling and unrivaled agility.

- Floating front disc brakes with dual-piston calipers for strong, secure braking.

- Combined ABS version features 3-piston front brake calipers and an advanced C-ABS system for safe stopping in all conditions.

- Super sports design incorporating a full fairing and windscreen.

Engine

Supersports-derived

The CBR600F's DOHC inline-4 engine was originally developed alongside the 2007 CBR600RR's power unit and is also found in the CB600F Hornet. It is tuned for an ultra-broad spread of power and a lightning-fast yet predictable throttle response. Regardless of gear and engine revs, the ultra-smooth unit delivers exactly the amount of drive the rider asks for. Strong, instantly accessible torque is available from very low revs, ensuring absolute control regardless of speed or road surface. The CBR600F delivers 75kW at 12,000rpm and an extremely smooth and glitch-free power curve. The result is an engine that satisfies on every level, offering both the civility and ease-of-use demanded by the novice while also satisfying the most experienced riders with its exhilarating performance.

Mass centralized

As befits such an important part of a uniquely balanced machine, the CBR600F engine is an integral part of the chassis package. Its race breeding is obvious in its low weight and compact dimensions. The unit's low weight helps trim the bike's all-important curb weight figure to a minimum, a key factor in the bike's exceptionally easy handling at any speed. At the same time, the engine's compact size gave Honda's engineers free reign to position it perfectly within the chassis, for an ideal front/rear weight distribution and neutral handling feel. Because the engine itself is so small, other components such as the fuel tank and exhaust can be tightly packaged around it, further centralizing the mass and benefiting handling.

Fuel injected

The engine's impressive combination of performance and refinement is due in no small part to the advanced PGM-FI electronic fuel injection system. The bike's Electronic Control Unit (ECU) works in conjunction with the engine's digital electronic ignition to ensure accurate fueling. The benefits are startling performance, a flawless throttle response and low fuel consumption.

Chassis

Total control

The driving concept of total control placed unique demands on the CBR600F chassis, asking that it perform flawlessly in a huge range of riding scenarios. The qualities of low weight, easy handling and sophisticated suspension are universal, and it is these three key attributes that underpin the chassis of the CBR600F.

Mono-Backbone frame

The engine is bolted into the die-cast aluminum frame to create the basis of a light, slim and compact machine. The Mono-Backbone's lightweight but rigid diamond configuration incorporates the engine as an integral part of the frame itself, using the engine's inherent strength to further boost chassis integrity for no additional weight penalty. The aluminum frame is manufactured in three sections using Honda's advanced gravity die-cast procedure, which allows engineers to accurately tune the structure for the perfect blend of rigidity and rider feel.

Neutral CBR handling

The motorcycle is concentrated around the core created by the engine and frame, creating a mass-centralized package that behaves intuitively at any speed. Reducing inertial mass at the machine's most extreme points in this way brings huge benefits to the handling. As a result the CBR600F changes direction effortlessly, while also offering superb stability and cornering control.

Sporty geometry

Because the engine and chassis are so compact, the CBR600F can combine the long swing arm required for sure-footed handling with one of the shortest wheelbase figures in its class, 1437mm. Super sports-derived chassis geometry backs up the bike's credentials as a genuine contender on even the most demanding roads.

Adjustable front and rear suspension

At the front, the 41mm inverted HMAS cartridge-type front fork gives unrivaled rider confidence, effortlessly soaking up imperfections in the road surface while also providing the feedback that is essential to rider comfort when cornering. The damping and spring rates are unique to the CBR600F, as are the characteristics of the rear Monoshock. Compared to the CBR600RR compression damping is decreased, for better bump absorption, while the tension damping is increased for enhanced control of the unsprung mass. Using the spring preload and tension damping adjusters the rider can also tailor the fork's behavior specifically to suit the way they ride. The result is a front end that delivers on the promise of total control. The rear suspension system consists of a tapered dual box-section aluminum swingarm controlled by a Mono shock damper. Tension and spring preload adjusters on the Mono-shock let the rider alter its precise characteristics to suit their weight and tastes, while a dual rate spring optimizes touring comfort. Together these cutting edge suspension systems provide an inspirational handling feel while also ensuring the CBR600F never loses its cool, however rough the roads.

Race-derived wheels and sophisticated braking systems

The CBR600F rides on lightweight cast aluminum wheels, which contribute to the bike's low curb weight while also reducing unsprung mass, directly benefiting the ride quality and ease of handling. Tyre sizes are unmistakably Super sport: 120/70-R17 at the front and 180/55-R17 at the rear. Strong and consistent braking performance is provided by a pair of 296mm floating discs with dual-piston calipers at the front. At the rear a 240mm disc and a single-piston caliper offer both stopping power and the fine control required for low-speed maneuvering.

Combined ABS CBR600F

The CBR600F is also available in a Combined ABS version, featuring an advanced Anti-lock Braking System. Combined ABS links the front brake control to the rear brake, ensuring smooth, progressive and powerful deceleration in all situations. The system's ECU monitors the speeds of the front and rear wheels using sensors. Should one wheel begin to rotate more slowly than the other, suggesting the first hint of tyre slip, the Combined Braking System modulates the braking effort to ensure full grip is retained, maximizing braking ability while retaining control.

Equipment

Honda Ignition Security System (HISS)

Fitted as standard to the CBR600F, the Honda Ignition Security System is an electronic security measure that makes the bike impossible to start without one of the two original keys. Without one of those keys the ignition system remains completely immobilized, preventing hot-wiring and ride-away theft.

Anti-lock Braking System

Honda has introduced ABS systems throughout its motorcycle range. The Combined ABS version of the CBR600F will appeal to novice and advanced riders alike while effectively broadening the bike's multi-purpose versatility still further.

In three delicious flavors:

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Sadly, this won't probably be available locally here in Thailand.

Rest in peace, fellow rider...

Hijacking the thread a little bit more....

No plate, no green book? If a BiB likes your ride he can and will take it (and you know how most of them love classic bikes -- a nice cafe racer like that, you don't stand a chance).

I picked this up at Honda Airport the other day. Guy told me they had more stuff coming next week. like the one for covering the gas cap. He said it was mostly for the 250's, but that most of it could also be used on the 150's. 350 baht

There was still one gas cap protector on display when we bumped into each other there last weekend,someone probably beat you to it. I felt really bad when I found out they had the tank guards for sale there and they were actually cheaper than the Progrip one I brought from Fast Corner.

They also had a few carbon parts, and aluminum bits on display in the waiting area beside the service center .

No big deal. I can pick one up next week, and see what else they have that might have come in. The only problem with the carbon & aluminum parts in the display cases is that most of the time they only have part number, but don't actually tell you what bike it's for. lol

There are accessory brochures for both the 150 and 250. Some of the stuff can go on either bike, and some of it is model specific. They might not have enough to give out to customers, but they should have a copy for you to look at. The prices are quite reasonable as well.

Yeah, I have one at home for the 150... Hopefully, my 12-month boy hasn't torn it apart yet (He likes to look at the bike pictures). I would probably put off modding until the next scheduled service that way the service mechs can install them themselves.

...the little bit of paper that the BiBs flag you down to check prior to negotiations?

Stuck mime on the screeen.

Dead centre of course.

Looks pig ugly but then it's one less reason for the BiBs to flag you down cos they can see it clearly.

Sticker 5Bht ;-)

395Bhht redeployed!

Yeah, a thai friend, who also has a new CBR and whose father's a BiB, told me it's better to stick it on the bike where the BiBs can see it clearly...

I'm going to wait until I spray the rims black, then go for the rim tape. Between the 150/250 they do them in red, silver and black.

http://www.jrmotor.c...ze-cbr150r.html

124b seems cheap. Is that for the set of four?

I think it's only 124 B for one strip, you'll need four.

I picked this up at Honda Airport the other day. Guy told me they had more stuff coming next week. like the one for covering the gas cap. He said it was mostly for the 250's, but that most of it could also be used on the 150's. 350 baht

There was still one gas cap protector on display when we bumped into each other there last weekend,someone probably beat you to it. I felt really bad when I found out they had the tank guards for sale there and they were actually cheaper than the Progrip one I brought from Fast Corner.

They also had a few carbon parts, and aluminum bits on display in the waiting area beside the service center .

Also, where are you guys sticking your tax sticker?

Put mine above my left foot peg, but thinking of sticking it onto the underside of the number plate.

I got that thing

Thats cool i think ill go with that one...when i get mine.

Likewise...

Also, where are you guys sticking your tax sticker?

Put mine above my left foot peg, but thinking of sticking it onto the underside of the number plate.

Isn't that going to flap and rattle at high speeds?