MAJIC

Going through my Daughters Toybox I came across a doll which was marketed as a Brand name "TROLL" in I think the 1980s.

They came in many guises (much like TVs real ones)

As you can see they are ugly smug little buggers, and have an evil little grin,as if to say "you cant catch me out"im smarter than you.

Their Favourite pass time is lying and creating sympathy/empathy and appealing to peoples good nature for help, thus wasting the time of good hearted people who do try to help them.

Somewhat perverse (as in mentally ill)they get great satisfaction,with this twisted,nasty use of people who come to their aid.

Treatment: catch them out in their lies and they promptly crawl back under the Rock they came out from.

Usually after the collective knowledge of TV Members,which usually does catch them out in the end,so they are not as smart as they think.

Often they appear at a later date with a new name,but appear from under the same Rock.

BEWARE DONT FEED THEM.

And finally their Latin name: Bull-shitus Bas-tardia

The question you are asking is how long will/can a relationship last,

the answer to that is:the same as anywhere else in the world,one night, the rest of their life,or somewhere in between.

UP-2-U and her!

How long is a piece of string?

We Ex Pats hear a lot about the so called 30 baht Medical card,

and I am wondering what are the ins and outs of it all?

Some say it covers Thais to see a Doctor free of charge and cheap Medication only,

While other Thais claim it covers everything,Hospitisation,Operations,etc

With nothing to pay?

I have also heard from 2 Ex Pats that as a Farang Husband of a Thai they also are entitled to the said card,Frankly I find this hard to believe.

My Wife always wants Private Medical Insurance,although she has the 30 baht card.

Any Members know anything about this subject?

Ive known a few folk who tell me their wives love them whilst I know some of them are seeing sometimes 1-2 other guys whilst "husband" is away.

Love or like? theyll tell you what they want you to think.

And I know many Farangs that cheat on their Thai wives, yet these Farangs tell their wives what they want their wives to think !

Any difference ?

Have you by any chance got Thai Citizenship yet?

Hi

Okay some big misunderstandings here. My wife comes from an affluent family, I met her 11 years ago when she was 21, working a good job overseas. We married big ceremony and are legally married, we have child, who has both nationalities birth certificates and European paspport too. My wife has taken no money from me and says she does not want, her mom is more tha capable of supporting them, and does.

She will never take money for the child as she loves it too dearly, she is not the type of Thai person that we think is a money grabber, she will give up the 15mil house and big car and support from me, and has done in the past, running away, and asked nothing.

Thats why I dont know what she wants or is doing, if she dont want to be married, why does she not seek a divorce, why does she let everything hang in limbo??? Why does she file a fake police report against me and then not act further, is she trying to scare me to do as she wants and says in the home, she is very power hungry and I feel this maybe a ploy for her to control our life and home, while all the time she says she is thinking of the kid, I can see its only about her!!

thoughts please.

I assure you its not about money, she dont want and even when I did send to here in the past to her bank account ,when we where not together, she did not use or even touch it!

Post 1........."and give my wife more than enough cash(I am talking 100k baht)"

Post 5........."also the 100k plus I pay her per month"

And now:

"My wife has taken no money from me and says she does not want, her mom is more than capable of supporting them, and does"

So are you giving her 100k a month or not?occasionally? or put in Bank and never drawn out by her?????

Assuming your Sincerity.

Sounds like YOU have 3 Major Problems here:

1. A MIL who cant accept her little girl has grown up.(who has a common Mother/Daughter Fixation)

2. You are giving her far too much money,(try reducing it to 5,000 baht a month.)to finance trips to Mummsy?

3. There are 3 people in your Marriage (try reducing it to 2).... see problem 1.

But until your Wife can understand the above problems and keeps running back to Mummsy to be

Mollycoddled,its going to be hard work....................see problem 2

If you continue to be the absent Meal ticket,then nothing will change,your the only one who is dissatisfied with the status quo,suits them fine!

Good Luck

You dont need to take this BS,nobody is thinking of you,so why not think of yourself and stop them taking the P**S!

Threats of Divorce should be taken with a large dose of salt,call her bluff!

I did once... Ended up driving to the Amphur office and I turned around while I was in the parking lot. Went back home and spent half of the day trying to reason with her that "we" were overacting to the events.

It seems She knows you too well.

Standard Thai/Farang marriage situation here,

i.e You have your Agenda and she has hers and never the twain shall meet.

Unless you are much more convincing than the majority of Farangs,You can't reason with a stone wall.

IMO The Internet connection was just another ploy to extract money.

You are not playing the game by Thai Rules,you were supposed to hand over the money with no connection or receipts,or most likely agree to pay for the monthly connection charge.

Threats of Divorce should be taken with a large dose of salt,call her bluff!

Typical Thai wife response to not getting her own way.

Marmite? bugger, i thought it was the 6 chang lights a night as sweat replacement therapy in this hot dry times, also been having lots of marmite as salt and energy back-up, and atacks of gout every 2/3 weeks, doc gives me injection and tabs and right as rain in 2 hours, cortezone and steroid i think injections are,

So Dave, what you suggest giving up, the sherbets or the marmite??

Cheers, Lickey..

NO CONTEST

Seriously, although I don't suffer, a number of friends have told me that Marmite(not sure of that other Aussie copy ) is supposed to be the worst thing to trigger goat.

I'm no expert, so I will continue with the Marmite&Beer diet

Dave

Aussie copy = Vegemite!

Both Marmite & Vegemite Have a high Folic Acid content,Im not sure if there may be a connection to Gout,or not?

I had a game of Snooker with Alex "Hurricane" Higgins once. R.I.P. He gave me a 30 points start and he played with one arm behind his back. He beat me 86-31

As far as i know he is still alive????

Sorry, yeah i think your right. I remember him getting throat cancer or something, several years ago and thought he had died. Sorry Alex

You know I was convinced he had died, and so when I saw this thread I searched all over, and it appears as though old Alex is still with us!!!

You and me must have read the same newspapers several years ago Mr B

Here is an update to this Post from 2007,

on Superstar Snooker Player Alex Higgins,who Sadly died on 24th July 2010 from Throat Cancer, RIP to the "Hurricane" the "Peoples Champion" a fantastic Sportsman,and entertainer.

Just typed in:

British Consulate Bangkok,hit it straight away.

Heres another example of "Face"

Went to pick up my new Toyota Vios after Valeting,and no Cigar lighter was in the dashboard socket.

So I got the sales lady out, who said it was in the glove compartment,it wasn't, she looked and then said it was in the boot (trunk) it wasn't of course. Then she said" I give to your wife" I said no she hadn't.

Then she said "oh remember,law Thailand say cannot smoke in car"

Never did get one!

The US just put into effect the same thing September 8.

Who wants to visit the USA?

Who wants to visit the UK?

In 2008 there was 117.7 Million Visitors to the UK,

Who spent £21.1 Million.

Source: The UK Tourist

So a few visit the UK eh?

This emphasis on the face thing,has always puzzled me too,

the only thing that I can think of is:a National sense of low self esteem perhaps?

so a small error must be corrected or denied so as not to lose competitive peer status?

But I could be wrong (and thats my face lost)

So, if there is or were a god that created everything, where did that god come from and if  he\she\it took only one week to create the earth why the rush job?...could have taken more time over it, made earth a bit bigger and Germany a bit smaller or something.......

Have you ever thought that that God is all there is? In that case how could He come from something?

Creating the Earth is a small thing, making matter from nothing, that's a very big deal.

In order to believe this theory,we as humans would need to suspend logic,or agree logic is nonsense, a manmade idea/invention,with no real purpose.

Lets face it the scientists can claim whatever they will,the Universe cant be explained by an inferior intelligence,such as mankind,no more Than a Monkey could explain Nuclear Physics.

If God is "all there is"then He,she,it must have come from nothing,which in our logic is impossible.

BANGKOK (NNT ) -- Deputy Prime Minister of Security Affairs Suthep Thaugsuban has urged the public not to panic over the upcoming anti-government movements scheduled for next Sunday.

Don't panic. And remember, always carry a towel and don't forget your copy of the HHGTTG

Thank You Zaphod Beeblebrox.

I believe that advice was offered by Ford Prefect.

As the SoE still in force, isn't a group of more than 5 illegal? Another example of political repression NOT carried out.

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You just beat me to that Post,I was wondering if I missed something.

So an illegal Protest of 5 or more people,is scheduled to go ahead,apparently legally,

With no doubt some of the previous Terrorists/Arsonists again present.

Cant get my head around that,TiT,Amazing Thailand,still doesnt explain it for me.

But as my Thai wife puts it "Think too much give you headache"

MAJIC

"Bangkok Hospital Discharged Severely Ill Patients After UAE Government Refuses To Pay The Bills". To get back at the Saudi who interfere with police promotion? Maybe, maybe not.

IMO there is no connection,only Greed.

The UAE Embassy source said: "After we found out that the BMC has been overcharging our patients in the past three years, we employed a consultancy firm to revise the hospital bills thoroughly, who again confirmed that the hospital bills were inaccurate and exaggerated".

So tell us something Expats didn't know already.

The fatal crime to commit in Thailand is to run out of money, or refuse to pay exorbitant charges!

In my experience I've never known a Thai woman yet who didnt have a nasty temper on occasions,

once the explosion starts it can be all out warfare,exceeding by far the boundaries of acceptability,

Thai soaps also reflect the hidden violence,arguably even creates it.

RIP to the Murdered Swedish man.

Targets are just hopeful,dreamers figures,

reality is another thing,which Tourists will decide!

Bad grammar--Well that means it could have been a Thai person or an American!

...or a British person under 50.

Unlikely going to Los Angeles,

could have been any Nationality,

so whats your Point?

The point is that no opportunity for a cheap shot at Americans shall be passed up on this forum, and now, mods are not just letting such cheap shots continue, they are making them as well...

I normally have a thick skin about such things, at least when the wackier members spout off. But there are participants who should know better than to, well, participate!

Sateev

Along with the British and Australians,who no doubt also find cheap shots boring,

but we have to accept that is all the muck slingers are on this forum for,

and not for their rational debating powers!

Bad grammar--Well that means it could have been a Thai person or an American!

...or a British person under 50.

Unlikely going to Los Angeles,

could have been any Nationality,

so whats your Point?

Out of every Benefit comes the checkbill.

i.e. My wifes UK Visa = £870.

Benefit to her = Free NHS care.

More than a fair deal to my way of thinking and nothing to do with "Greedy Brits" as the Stupid Topic Title suggests! where does the OP think the money comes from? for her health care, Thailand?

If you were in Britain, and had a British wife who did not work, she would get Free NHS care too. Why? BECAUSE SHE IS YOUR WIFE!. Surely, it does not matter where your wife hails from. And anyway it is not FREE! What about all the NI contributions you made over the years? The Income tax? VAT at more than double the Thai rate and about to increase again shortly.

What about all the NI contributions I made? I am in Thailand. If I return to the UK for medical treatment I have to pay! My pension is frozen! No cold weather allowance for me! No Christmas Bonus! No Child tax Credits! But they still take 20% tax off me from my private pension! Part of my contribution is helping to pay for your wife's FREE NHS treatment, and all the enormous benefits handed out to the millions of immigrants who pour into the UK.

I could go on -but I won't

Yes of course I agree with your point,that it was mainly my NI contributions,Tax and VAT, that has given my Thai wife "Free health care" something (I) her husband would not get in Thailand,30 baht cards are not given out to "Farang Husbands" as far as Im aware of?

But my point was: The system in the UK is not a bottomless pit,and money needs to be taken in finances in order to pay them out,to the needy,balancing the books is what it is all about i.e no system of looking after Citizens can be all about paying out,while not taking something in,from some source or another form.

Whilst I again agree with you,that it is grossly unfair that you do not get Pension increases because you are not resident in the UK (See my Posts on Topics concerning this very subject)

However I can't agree with you that you are losing out on the £250 winter fuel allowance,lets face it,you are in no need of extra heating in Thailand,the legislation does not cover extremes of heat either (Heatwaves),which has been known in the UK,and is also not available to British Citizens Resident in the UK either.

Also, Thailands Taxation system can't be compared with the UK,Thailand pays very little to their Citizens in Benefits,and consequently can keep their Taxation system low! and in the case of low earners,Tax on earnings is non existent.

If you return to the UK for Medical Treatment while you are considered permanently resident in Thailand then there is a question mark,as to whether you will need to pay for treatment.Again another Topic thoroughly debated in the past year,which I believe from my experience,and others you would not be disappointed with the treatment received by your own Country,but that would depend on your intentions whether to reside there permanently again,or merely fly in for that nagging Hernia,Hip replacement or whatever,and flit back home to Thailand? and leaving the other NI contributers to share the checkbill.

Child/working Tax Credits, (you are not working in the UK,and if your child does not live there) Tax Credits only get paid to permanent UK residents,the rights and wrongs of that one,are similar to not getting Pension Increases,but in my view different in as much as residency is the main eligibility factor,not the same as the Pension increases,because you have paid nothing into the system for this particular unearned Benefit.

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And as to the Christmas bonus,a miserable £10,is hardly worth getting upset over,and will just about buy a small frozen Turkey,some Bonus eh? Im sure some poor old OAPs are really looking forward to a whale of a time on their own with the Christmas Festivities looming.

Your Private Pension,of which you pay 20% Tax on,presumably because it is generated in the UK by your Pension Provider,and thus incurs UK taxes,but you do offset this with, the normal Personal Annual Tax Allowance,exactly the same as the permanent UK resident,so absolutely no different treatment there either!

One final point:on the one hand you state..........

"If you were in Britain, and had a British wife who did not work, she would get Free NHS care too. Why? BECAUSE SHE IS YOUR WIFE!. Surely, it does not matter where your wife hails from. And anyway it is not FREE! What about all the NI contributions you made over the years? The Income tax? VAT at more than double the Thai rate and about to increase again shortly.And then you go on to state:

"Part of my Contribution is helping to pay for your wifes FREE NHS treatment"

Somewhat contradictory in my view!

If the latter is correct,then by your calculations,should you take your wife back to the UK? then someone else will be paying part of her contributions to your wifes healthcare

The very same Taxation system does and will apply to me,and will continue to do so, in the not too distant future.Including both my Private Pension and National 65 year old Pension,for which I worked,paid Taxes and NI contributions for 40 years.So dont feel I dont sympathise with you.

Normally I agree with your very sensible Posts.

Good luck

MAJIC.

My Humblest Apologies for the multiple Posts,

Nothing seemed to be working,so I posted several times.

Sorry

Out of every Benefit comes the checkbill.

i.e. My wifes UK Visa = £870.

Benefit to her = Free NHS care.

More than a fair deal to my way of thinking and nothing to do with "Greedy Brits" as the Stupid Topic Title suggests! where does the OP think the money comes from? for her health care, Thailand?

If you were in Britain, and had a British wife who did not work, she would get Free NHS care too. Why? BECAUSE SHE IS YOUR WIFE!. Surely, it does not matter where your wife hails from. And anyway it is not FREE! What about all the NI contributions you made over the years? The Income tax? VAT at more than double the Thai rate and about to increase again shortly.

What about all the NI contributions I made? I am in Thailand. If I return to the UK for medical treatment I have to pay! My pension is frozen! No cold weather allowance for me! No Christmas Bonus! No Child tax Credits! But they still take 20% tax off me from my private pension! Part of my contribution is helping to pay for your wife's FREE NHS treatment, and all the enormous benefits handed out to the millions of immigrants who pour into the UK.

I could go on -but I won't

Yes of course I agree with your point,that it was mainly my NI contributions,Tax and VAT, that has given my Thai wife "Free health care" something (I) her husband would not get in Thailand,30 baht cards are not given out to "Farang Husbands" as far as Im aware of?

But my point was: The system in the UK is not a bottomless pit,and money needs to be taken in finances in order to pay them out,to the needy,balancing the books is what it is all about i.e no system of looking after Citizens can be all about paying out,while not taking something in,from some source or another form.

Whilst I again agree with you,that it is grossly unfair that you do not get Pension increases because you are not resident in the UK (See my Posts on Topics concerning this very subject)

However I can't agree with you that you are losing out on the £250 winter fuel allowance,lets face it,you are in no need of extra heating in Thailand,the legislation does not cover extremes of heat either (Heatwaves),which has been known in the UK,and is also not available to British Citizens Resident in the UK either.

Also, Thailands Taxation system can't be compared with the UK,Thailand pays very little to their Citizens in Benefits,and consequently can keep their Taxation system low! and in the case of low earners,Tax on earnings is non existent.

If you return to the UK for Medical Treatment while you are considered permanently resident in Thailand then there is a question mark,as to whether you will need to pay for treatment.Again another Topic thoroughly debated in the past year,which I believe from my experience,and others you would not be disappointed with the treatment received by your own Country,but that would depend on your intentions whether to reside there permanently again,or merely fly in for that nagging Hernia,Hip replacement or whatever,and flit back home to Thailand? and leaving the other NI contributers to share the checkbill.

Child/working Tax Credits, (you are not working in the UK,and if your child does not live there) Tax Credits only get paid to permanent UK residents,the rights and wrongs of that one,are similar to not getting Pension Increases,but in my view different in as much as residency is the main eligibility factor,not the same as the Pension increases,because you have paid nothing into the system for this particular unearned Benefit.

.

And as to the Christmas bonus,a miserable £10,is hardly worth getting upset over,and will just about buy a small frozen Turkey,some Bonus eh? Im sure some poor old OAPs are really looking forward to a whale of a time on their own with the Christmas Festivities looming.

Your Private Pension,of which you pay 20% Tax on,presumably because it is generated in the UK by your Pension Provider,and thus incurs UK taxes,but you do offset this with, the normal Personal Annual Tax Allowance,exactly the same as the permanent UK resident,so absolutely no different treatment there either!

One final point:on the one hand you state..........

"If you were in Britain, and had a British wife who did not work, she would get Free NHS care too. Why? BECAUSE SHE IS YOUR WIFE!. Surely, it does not matter where your wife hails from. And anyway it is not FREE! What about all the NI contributions you made over the years? The Income tax? VAT at more than double the Thai rate and about to increase again shortly.And then you go on to state:

"Part of my Contribution is helping to pay for your wifes FREE NHS treatment"

Somewhat contradictory in my view!

If the latter is correct,then by your calculations,should you take your wife back to the UK? then someone else will be paying part of her contributions to your wifes healthcare

The very same Taxation system does and will apply to me,and will continue to do so, in the not too distant future.Including both my Private Pension and National 65 year old Pension,for which I worked,paid Taxes and NI contributions for 40 years.So dont feel I dont sympathise with you.

Normally I agree with your very sensible Posts.

Good luck

MAJIC.

My Humblest Apologies for the multiple Posts,

Nothing seemed to be working,so I posted several times.

Sorry

Out of every Benefit comes the checkbill.

i.e. My wifes UK Visa = £870.

Benefit to her = Free NHS care.

More than a fair deal to my way of thinking and nothing to do with "Greedy Brits" as the Stupid Topic Title suggests! where does the OP think the money comes from? for her health care, Thailand?

If you were in Britain, and had a British wife who did not work, she would get Free NHS care too. Why? BECAUSE SHE IS YOUR WIFE!. Surely, it does not matter where your wife hails from. And anyway it is not FREE! What about all the NI contributions you made over the years? The Income tax? VAT at more than double the Thai rate and about to increase again shortly.

What about all the NI contributions I made? I am in Thailand. If I return to the UK for medical treatment I have to pay! My pension is frozen! No cold weather allowance for me! No Christmas Bonus! No Child tax Credits! But they still take 20% tax off me from my private pension! Part of my contribution is helping to pay for your wife's FREE NHS treatment, and all the enormous benefits handed out to the millions of immigrants who pour into the UK.

I could go on -but I won't

Yes of course I agree with your point,that it was mainly my NI contributions,Tax and VAT, that has given my Thai wife "Free health care" something (I) her husband would not get in Thailand,30 baht cards are not given out to "Farang Husbands" as far as Im aware of?

But my point was: The system in the UK is not a bottomless pit,and money needs to be taken in finances in order to pay them out,to the needy,balancing the books is what it is all about i.e no system of looking after Citizens can be all about paying out,while not taking something in,from some source or another form.

Whilst I again agree with you,that it is grossly unfair that you do not get Pension increases because you are not resident in the UK (See my Posts on Topics concerning this very subject)

However I can't agree with you that you are losing out on the £250 winter fuel allowance,lets face it,you are in no need of extra heating in Thailand,the legislation does not cover extremes of heat either (Heatwaves),which has been known in the UK,and is also not available to British Citizens Resident in the UK either.

Also, Thailands Taxation system can't be compared with the UK,Thailand pays very little to their Citizens in Benefits,and consequently can keep their Taxation system low! and in the case of low earners,Tax on earnings is non existent.

If you return to the UK for Medical Treatment while you are considered permanently resident in Thailand then there is a question mark,as to whether you will need to pay for treatment.Again another Topic thoroughly debated in the past year,which I believe from my experience,and others you would not be disappointed with the treatment received by your own Country,but that would depend on your intentions whether to reside there permanently again,or merely fly in for that nagging Hernia,Hip replacement or whatever,and flit back home to Thailand? and leaving the other NI contributers to share the checkbill.

Child/working Tax Credits, (you are not working in the UK,and if your child does not live there) Tax Credits only get paid to permanent UK residents,the rights and wrongs of that one,are similar to not getting Pension Increases,but in my view different in as much as residency is the main eligibility factor,not the same as the Pension increases,because you have paid nothing into the system for this particular unearned Benefit.

.

And as to the Christmas bonus,a miserable £10,is hardly worth getting upset over,and will just about buy a small frozen Turkey,some Bonus eh? Im sure some poor old OAPs are really looking forward to a whale of a time on their own with the Christmas Festivities looming.

Your Private Pension,of which you pay 20% Tax on,presumably because it is generated in the UK by your Pension Provider,and thus incurs UK taxes,but you do offset this with, the normal Personal Annual Tax Allowance,exactly the same as the permanent UK resident,so absolutely no different treatment there either!

One final point:on the one hand you state..........

"If you were in Britain, and had a British wife who did not work, she would get Free NHS care too. Why? BECAUSE SHE IS YOUR WIFE!. Surely, it does not matter where your wife hails from. And anyway it is not FREE! What about all the NI contributions you made over the years? The Income tax? VAT at more than double the Thai rate and about to increase again shortly.And then you go on to state:

"Part of my Contribution is helping to pay for your wifes FREE NHS treatment"

Somewhat contradictory in my view!

If the latter is correct,then by your calculations,should you take your wife back to the UK? then someone else will be paying part of her contributions to your wifes healthcare

The very same Taxation system does and will apply to me,and will continue to do so, in the not too distant future.Including both my Private Pension and National 65 year old Pension,for which I worked,paid Taxes and NI contributions for 40 years.So dont feel I dont sympathise with you.

Normally I agree with your very sensible Posts.

Good luck

MAJIC.