15 hours ago, ezzra said:

Scary stuff, Thais usually to react that way even the worse of them, that guy must have been really peed off seeing someone filming him...

What was the uniform he was wearing? 

21 hours ago, samtam said:

This list is very helpful. I plan to exit Thailand in November and return within a couple of weeks, (to effect the continuation of PR status in Hong Kong). Can I apply for the insurance before leaving, or do I have to do it whilst abroad? I believe it's only effective from the date of arrival back in Thailand, and should be valid until the expiry of my Extension of Stay. I note that the coverage period is fixed, as in 90, 180 days 1 year etc; if my Extension of Stay expiry is 25 May 2022, and I return just over 180 days ahead of that, I will have to buy the 1 year coverage? Obviously best to reduce the time to within 6 months, and halve the premium.

 

 

Hi, Joe. Thanks for all your previous advice, I just got the COE through for my friend we talked about.

I got rejected first go, because of insurance, did not know why, then looked at the application process, stage  1-2-3 ect. When I filled out the first stage I did not have the exact travel dates so I put an approximate date, they then pre- approved COE. and said now you can book your tickets and upload them with insurance ect.

Then I submitted stage 2 and it rejected, so I looked at it, and edited the application and the travel date in stage one, which did not correspond with the actual ticket dates and insurance dates so they knocked me back.

Nor did the quarantine dates align.

Then to top  that off, the insurance, they knocked back as they said also it did not show 100k USD.

Nor did the cover dates, align with stage one date, but it did with the actual ticket dates, all due to you can not put the actual travel date in stage one until you get pre approval to the next stage, then you can buy everything.( the insurance for covid 19 was from a link you and the embassy provided and the company is fine and they accepted the policy once they figured out how much 6.4 million Bhat was in USD for cover)

So I corrected stage one, wrote on the copy of the insurance that it covered 6.4 million Bhat, which was approx 179k USA. SO then they were happy with that, they then approved my application and I have downloaded the COE.

SO make sure you edit stage one when you upload tickets ect to stage 2.

One problem to be aware of is-- when you browse files to put an attachment on your application, -- you click open on your file and then on the application the file pic shows, and you think its uploaded.

It has not--- you have to click on the little box(up-load file)on the application when the file shows up, to upload it to the form.

Then with, The Additional Info box--- make sure you put anything you want to explain into  a file in that box as the other boxes will only let you download 2 attachments.

You  can include letters, tickets ect just put them into one file. 

Question Joe? Any advice as to travel from BK to your home province, once BK quarantine is finished, my friend enters on the 15-08 and today the news says all domestic flights are cancelled.

And People in the Sandbox were going to be sent to Suvarnabhumi by Bus.

I was thinking along the lines of a private Taxi, he has a house in Chiang Mai but has not been using it, I put that address on the T8 with proof of address docs.

He has a rental agreement for a place he has been staying at in Sakon Nokhon, over 5 years.

Would he be able to get out of BK, to Sakon Nakhon using a private Taxi and the rental agreement,or get to Chiang Mai  on his Chiang mai docs ,and then go on to Sakon Nakhon using rental agreement as proof of address ? as it looks like Air Travel may be out of the question??

Can you send message to me as before- to Keithwilly 2002, thanks Joe .

2 hours ago, ezzra said:

Yeah just my luck to be holding a cr*p loads of them in the bank right now...

  Maybe,sell some now as it will probably go another 3 /4 Bhat to he USD. 

22 hours ago, sucit said:

It’s all absolute insanity. The stuff we are doing is the equivalent of the crazy person freaking out and screaming in public. It’s just all of us. 
 

Think about it. The guy is getting on planes, and into confined spaces like taxis, going through screenings with people around, all to save himself from a virus. I am criticizing the system not him. Anyone over a certain age should have easy access to the vaccines. I don’t care what passport you hold. 

Best stay where he is, big problem to get back to Thailand, insurance big headache at his age 20000 NZ, per year from cigma. 

22 hours ago, sezze said:

I wonder what data he got ?

Get 10 million in a month and vaccinate 1 mill per day ... that month gonna be over very soon .

Thats 333,33333 per day, obvious a abacus glitch, to much wonton soup on the rails.

But other things are happening in BKK , yesterday I tried to book a Quarantine hotel, the Indra Pratunam was on the list, I know this one so, I rang them and they said,,, Very sorry sir we can not take booking for quarantine--- as we are now a Hospital.

My wife googled a pic of the main road outside the hotel, and the street is dead, no cars - one motorbike, the streets by the Bayoke which used to be bustling full of people and traders moving bails of stuff around on hand trucks was dead. 

So the Indra with its own huge internal market and the markets outside are dead. That means Panthip and the rest also dead.

If the enlightened ones are turning hotels into hospitals, then that means no room in Bangkok Hospitals at all??

Looking at Channel 9 Aussie news just now pics of the Army patrolling with armed police, and knocking on door to door houses to check people are obeying lockdown rules, and they only had 230 od cases yesterday.

Thats a lockdown!!!, then compare that with thousands of people queued outside Bang Sue, crammed together waiting forever for a test , not social distanced, then this can only spread the virus rapidly.

And if you test positive and you live in BK you may have no hospital to go to, maybe go to a converted hotel or a field hospital , butttttt, if you come from another province you will be sent back to your home province for treatment. Does that spread things further, maybe I will get the wonton soup covered abacus out and find some data.

18 hours ago, thailanddogerator said:

 

yes this country is leading the world ! hahahaha

 

people vax will be required to visit the moon so that may place Thailand's space exploration to the moon on hold

5 hours ago, lujanit said:

The real question is will he ever be brought to justice.  Maybe it's a question of will.

Time is racing, charges have not been dropped, just held onto, don't drop them they are fragile.

4 minutes ago, Dialemco said:

Surely should be indefinite leave to stay. Problem would be law may change at any time and investment devalued lost or highly taxed. Any increase in property prices  would be detrimental to the Thai people for a short time gain

Welcome-- to the Hotel smelly Formula.

2 minutes ago, WinterGael said:

Pure stupidity... when you allow foreign ownership of property it does cause a huge jump in value of real estate.  And the only ones who benefit from it are developers, real estate agents, and the foreign buyers.  Look at Canada.  Cities like vancouver and Toronto are so expensive to buy in that average Canadians cannot afford a home.  Both the federal and provincial governments have stepped in to try and fix the problem but it really is too late.  The result has been vancouver watch new businesses and companies moving to smaller cities where life is affordable and they can attract workers who can afford to live there.  Can any sane person imagine that happening here?  The damage it could cause would be horrendous. 

A few years ago now, Auckland NZ, houses rose from 100k to 400k, then they said where will this stop.

Chinese and developers flowed in were allowed to buy houses , land and farms, and open milk powder production factories, houses that were 400k are now 4 million, and they are just now, putting the breaks on foreign ownership.

Banks then compensated by offering loans at 1%, now they are talking of raising the OFC, you can't earn nothing on retirement savings and now the banks are going to create mortgagee sales and plunge those that borrowed at 1% into doom.

Vancouver our sister.

2 minutes ago, Airalee said:

I’m not seeing all that many protectionist comments…only a few.  
 

The free market appears to have spoken already.  The Thailand elite visa hasn’t yet hit 10,000 members at $30,000 for a 20 year visa since it was introduced 18 years ago.  So now they think that somewhere there are a million multimillionaires chomping at the bit to pony up a little over $900,000 for a 30 year visa?

Superstition prevails, in LOS, if you nearly got run over by a car or truck and managed to remember 3 numbers of the license plate , then search all lottery sellers for a ticket with those numbers.

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Which is exactly why this abominable scheme should never succeed. It's dreamed up by greedy people that care nothing about their fellow countrymen.

 

If it does succeed, there should be a 99% capital gain tax imposed for land sales over a million baht.

 

However, it seems like a typical Phuket scheme, given how greed runs deep there, IMO. Just look at what happened after the tsunami.

 

The USA today news reports say, the bubble has burst, real estate has stopped rising.

Seeing it is still going ballistic in NZ and Aussie, I wonder when that will apply to us.

The major problem World Wide is, there is not much left to do to make a buck.

The opp shops now have only junk in them, as dealers are buying anything good early or it does not hit the shop b4 it is sold under the table.

Car dealers are placing cars on the roadside everywhere trying to make them look like private sales, many of these cars are dealer owned, but they can not afford the yard anymore and work from home, cars are everywhere for sale on the streets in North NZ.

Thailand has a funny real estate market , you can see properties advertised for 10 million and sell for 4 /6 if lucky. location location.

I have tried to buy land b4 and been offered a price of 4 million and walked away, and seen it sold 6 months later for 1 million, depends on if your able, to not let anyone know your shopping --as normal Thais can become middle men in a few hours.

Given that, you only need to look at the big boys paying premium for art and classic BMW's and Porches, ect, as there is no money on investments to be made- unless you produce rubber gloves and face masks.

That means my trip to USA to buy a couple of classics , sell one to pay for the other is over, they are priced to high and you can not travel-- gazumped.

So poor old street vendors, knock off cloth sellers and the markets , restaurants, and all in the chain are at present in a financial meltdown.

So the beech vendors are forced back to the rice farm, or what's left of them, after your brother sold half of it to pay for his card playing debt.

Everyone's now drinking home made rice whiskey and fishing from the nearest  water hole to survive.

Given that I bet that there will be sharing and humour amongst them, that's why " The Land Of Smiles will return one day.

4 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Haven't we herd this before and it turned out they cant ????

That's if the manufacture is uninterrupted. 

I wonder how many Mr Putin could supply??? Don't think the CEO's of Pfizer, Moderna, Astra Zenneca would be interested, maybe they could mix Sinovac with Sputnik as a second dose, don't think that's going to fly well. 

17 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Thai volunteers step up as Covid-19 Delta cases send hospitals to ‘point of collapse’

Thanapon Songput, a worker at the non-profit Mirror Foundation, has been arranging to provide oxygen tanks for Covid-19 patients around Thailand’s capital in the past month.

The group allocates up to 90 tanks for about 15 patients a day, but the overwhelming demand has rendered its efforts almost futile. Thanapon said one patient died as she called to plead for help from the foundation.

 

“We could never work fast enough. We asked her to wait, but it was too late,” he said.

 

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3142317/coronavirus-thai-volunteers-step-delta-cases-send

I can see a cry for oxygen going out for help soon, or will the lose face syndrome prevent that. 

3 hours ago, superal said:

I have a similar position but I do not have any confidence if staying in Phuket for 15 days and the covid rules being favourable and flight/buses being available . Maybe the Certificate of entry should have included a pass/waiver to be able to return to your Thai residence by whatever means are available ? Especially when you consider the amount of money on flights , hotel, covid tests and insurance etc . The sandbox programme states that you will be able to travel to anywhere within Thailand after your 14 day stay and with no attached provisos .

Submitted COE twice online yesterday to the Thai embassy N Z and it comes back #400 can not accept data transfer, try again, saw another poster having same problem, embassy has not replied to my email asking if the website is experiencing any problems, no reply. 

Looks like something is going on, maybe Thailand is shutting down. 

Had paperwork perfect accepted that then the above message, I will try to contact them again today, but this could be a door closed without notice, trying again today, will keep you informed. 

I also heard Britain has stopped letting in non British nationals from Thailand if anyone can confirm that, and you're facing quarantine to get back. 

At present NZ has suspended the Australian travel bubble, but will bring back 50000, stranded kiwis,. 

Just to book quarantine to get back you are looking at over 90day waiting list, you can't apply for 90 days to return if you leave. 

Travel anywhere has now gone from major, to a major, major problem. 

2 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

It's as good as Sinovac, a lot cheaper and comes in more flavours

The prisoners are getting green hebal teas 

On 7/23/2021 at 3:01 AM, Rookiescot said:

And yet the baht hardly moves.

It is a mystery for sure.

Someone can answer that for us, I wouldn't hazard a guess as their name but they could have some large overseas investments. 

19 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

At recovering their money how? By taking the loan collateral? Or in hiring thugs to torment the families? Just  qyestions.

If you can't pay back they take the collateral, was thinking about that the other day, most Thais will have lost their gold. Then the bikes and cars will follow. 

Then those that have mortgages will be in trouble, it's sad. 

Don't know what is going on at present as tried to submit a COE online to get a friend back and the embassy Webb site is sending a#400 can not transfer data try again. 

Ive seen a other posts having the same problem. 

Maybe Thailand is closed now, I sent a email to get an answer about this and they haven't replied????? 

9 minutes ago, Thomas J said:

You said it was false.  You prove it.  As said, I would not trust anything the Chinese said.   The very fact you have a nation reporting it has the same level of Covid infections per million as the remote Marshall and Soloman Islands is testimony to how specious their numbers are. 

All the world, is but a stage, and each and everyone but an actor, Donald Duck has left the stage now, geriatric ,Joe, is reading from notes, Vaccine companies are now saying /vaccinate pregnant women and children over 12, today in Fiji ,2 pregnant women died after been vaccinated, they saved the babies by casiserian . RNZ news today.

Thailand is in a dilemma, but I do not think the advised one worries.

Stop arguing ,the virus is everywhere. My guess it will taper in the next 6 months or, we will owe big pharma the world. 

5 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Well, they did chose this horse when they supported the overthrow of the previous government.

 

Now they have buyer's horse remorse?

 

Time for a new horse, or is it jockey? Can't keep track here.

 

 

 

 

I just got off the phone , to an insurance broker, who resides in BK, asked him if he was aware that construction workers were being forced to stay in government tents under the freeways, B cause no hospital beds , today the rise to 13000, and no sign of the escalation slowing.

Bye the way he said, I have not seen it, but I believe it is true.

Well if you believe the newspaper , which we can not name then it may be true, unless they used photo shop.

Mass vaccination can not happen until  next year, what's the R0 going to do in the mean time?

Someone took a gamble on producing Astra which failed because of the delta outbreak in India, over 200 ingredients needed to produce the vaccine ,and short supply world wide.

useless news ... Australian health officials today accused the health authorities, that delta is out of control , only 120 new cases

 So if thats the case Thailand has a melt down. The Aussie comment was on channel 9 news today.

7 hours ago, The Cipher said:

Source and/or supporting calculations?

 

But yes. I agree that it is much better to vaccinate.

Here is a bit of useful information. 

India is reporting that 62 % of the population now have Covid antibodies, they have a very low vaccination completion rate of about 13 %. Source India today news. 

So to me that looks like herd immunity is happening without being vaccinated, I hope this will be a trend that continues, and a sign that we're on the way out of this naturally. 

Fingers crossed. 

20 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Wow lost for words but again no surprise. I still would like to know the true numbers in Thailand.

3700 odd in hospital critical care. 

How many off them die, in a week? If half then about 1800 a week a possibility, then add a unknown factor of people that are dieing in villages and then there is a possibility that 2000 a week could be happening, but that's just a guess, we'll find out sooner or later. India openly admitted they did not know the true death toll because of the unrecorded pick up of people in villages they said the real toll could be up to 10 x higher, that was reported on the India Today news. 

19 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

Ironically, the one person who should have lost his job..... hasn't!

He never mentioned the employers of slaves, smuggled into Thailand, nor have they stopped them coming in. 

People paying to be smuggled into Thailand to work still. 

Factories still working with infected people, you can't get out and you can never leave. 

Then the hiso parties in Bangkok that spread Delta, source of virus not found, look at the people that were there, they were probably quarantine hotel owners or airport, airline staff. 

The suspension of imported labour, should have been enacted. 

But no these factories are still going and locking infected workers in. 

Construction workers kept in government tents under freeways, as they have no room for them in hospitals. 

And now the Covid daily toll up to 1300, and to make matters worse, bodies lying dead in the streets. 

If this R0 rate continues could be up to 30000 per day in another month. 

Delta has spread throughout Thailand and....... the Horse has Bolted... Because someone forgot to shut the doors. 

Note, slave labour factories full of covid infections are still operating, but obviously they bear no impact on corona 

Carry on regardless, people who die in the streets will be picked up, Mai pben Rai. 

On 7/20/2021 at 12:27 AM, Frank Abegnale said:

It COULD hit 30k, . . . or it might not. 

If you’re testing 10000 per day that are positive and you test 10000 tomorrow you will have the same result tomorrow,does anyone know how many tests are done every day?? So the true figure could be higher