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    Ocean fish in Rimping

    in Chiang Mai

    Posted

    Want to eat more ocean fish and the fish at rimping always looks fresh.

    But what is from the ocean and what is farmed???

    Shrimp? Tuna? Mackerel? Grouper? Anybody know?

    I assume all salmon is farmed in Norway.

    GF tells me the blue crabs are from the ocean and so is the Japanese sushi squid....

    A 'TRUE Experience

    in Chiang Mai

    Posted

    I had problems with True before, now I dont go near them. Seems the sales people, working often from a small table in front of the shops, lie. Sold my GF on some promotion but changed the deal one month later and we had to pay more.

    Had a lot of hassle when we cancelled their True Vision as well, they just refused to give back the deposit without having a reason for it. Not until we threatened to lodge a complaint with the police did they release the deposit. Maybe they try to screw over the farang since they think we might go home to our home countries and have no time to make trouble, or that we will just give up.

    Never any problems with TOT or BBB.....

    How Do You Ask For No Msg In Your Food In Thai?

    in Thai Food

    Posted

    Abstract

    BACKGROUND:

    A single intake of monosodium glutamate (MSG) may cause headache and increased muscle sensitivity. We conducted a double-blinded, placebo-controlled, crossover study to examine the effect of repeated MSG intake on spontaneous pain, mechanical sensitivity of masticatory muscles, side effects, and blood pressure.

    METHODS:

    Fourteen healthy subjects participated in 5 daily sessions for one week of MSG intake (150 mg/kg) or placebo (24 mg/kg NaCl) (randomized, double-blinded). Spontaneous pain, pressure pain thresholds and tolerance levels for the masseter and temporalis muscles, side effects, and blood pressure were evaluated before and 15, 30, and 50 min after MSG intake. Whole saliva samples were taken before and 30 min after MSG intake to assess glutamate concentrations.

    RESULTS:

    Headache occurred in 8/14 subjects during MSG and 2/14 during placebo (P = 0.041). Salivary glutamateconcentrations on Day 5 were elevated significantly (P < 0.05). Pressure pain thresholds in masseter muscle were reduced byMSG on Day 2 and 5 (P < 0.05). Blood pressure was significantly elevated after MSG (P < 0.040).

    CONCLUSION:

    In conclusion, MSG induced mechanical sensitization in masseter muscle and adverse effects such as headache and short-lasting blood pressure elevation for which tolerance did not develop over 5 days of MSG intake.

    ssociation between monosodium glutamate intake and sleep-disordered breathing among Chinese adults with normal body weight.
    Source

    Department of Nutrition and Foodborne Disease Prevention, Jiangsu Provincial Center for Disease Control and Prevention, Nanjing, China. [email protected]

    Abstract
    OBJECTIVE:

    To assess whether monosodium glutamate (MSG) intake is associated with sleep-disordered breathing (SDB).

    METHODS:

    Data from 1227 Chinese subjects who participated in the Jiangsu Nutrition Study were analyzed. All the participants were examined at two time points (baseline in 2002 and follow-up in 2007). The MSG intake was assessed quantitatively in 2002 and a sleep questionnaire was used to assess snoring and to construct an SDB probability score in 2007. Those within the fifth quintile of the score (highest) were defined as having a high probability of SDB.

    RESULTS:

    The MSG intake was positively associated with snoring and a high probability of SDB in participants who had a normal body weight but in those who were overweight. A comparison of the extreme quartiles of MSG intake in subjects with a body mass index lower than 23 kg/m² showed an odds ratio of 2.02 (95% confidence interval 1.02-4.00) for snoring and an odds ratio of 3.11 (95% confidence interval 1.10-8.84) for a high probability of SDB. There was a joint effect between MSG and overweight in relation to SDB.

    CONCLUSION:

    The intake of MSG may increase the risk of SDB in Chinese adults with a normal body weight.

    The monosodium glutamate symptom complex: assessment in a double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized study.
    Source

    Department of Medicine, University of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.

    Abstract
    BACKGROUND:

    Considerable debate swirls about the validity of symptoms described by many people after ingestion ofmonosodium glutamate (MSG), and the question has remained unresolved largely because of a paucity of well-designed challenge studies.

    METHODS:

    We conducted oral challenge studies in self-identified MSG-sensitive subjects to determine whether they had a statistically significant difference in the incidence of their specific symptoms after ingestion of MSG compared with placebo. First, 5 gm MSG or placebo was administered in random sequence in a double-blind fashion. Subjects who reacted only to a single test agent then underwent rechallenge in random sequence in a double-blind fashion with placebo and 1.25, 2.5, and 5 gm MSG. A positive response to challenge was defined as the reproduction of > of 2 of the specific symptoms in a subject ascertained on prechallenge interview.

    RESULTS:

    Sixty-one subjects entered the study. On initial challenge, 18 (29.5%) responded to neither MSG nor placebo, 6 (9.8%) to both, 15 (24.6%) to placebo, and 22 (36.1%) to MSG (p = 0.324). Total and average severity of symptoms after ingestion of MSG (374 and 80) were greater than respective values after placebo ingestion (232 and 56; p = 0.026 and 0.018, respectively). Rechallenge revealed an apparent threshold dose for reactivity of 2.5 gm MSG. Headache (p < 0.023), muscle tightness (p < 0.004), numbness/tingling (p < 0.007), general weakness (p < 0.040), and flushing (p < 0.016) occurred more frequently after MSG than placebo ingestion.

    CONCLUSIONS:

    Oral challenge with MSG reproduced symptoms in alleged sensitive persons. The mechanism of the reaction remains unknown, but symptom characteristics do not support an IgE-mediated mechanism. According to Food and Drug Administration recommendations, the symptoms, originally called the Chinese restaurant syndrome, are better referred to as the MSG symptom complex.

    Monosodium glutamate (MSG) intake is associated with the prevalence of metabolic syndrome in a rural Thai population.
    Source

    Department of Biochemistry, Faculty of Medicine, Khon Kaen University, Khon Kaen, 40002, Thailand. [email protected].

    Abstract
    BACKGROUND:

    Epidemiology and animal models suggest that dietary monosodium glutamate (MSG) may contribute to the onset of obesity and the metabolic syndrome.

    METHODS:

    Families (n = 324) from a rural area of Thailand were selected and provided MSG as the sole source for the use in meal preparation for 10 days. Three hundred forty-nine subjects aged 35-55 years completed the study and were evaluated for energy and nutrient intake, physical activity, and tobacco smoking. The prevalence of overweight and obesity (BMI ≥ 25 kg/m2), insulin resistance (HOMA-IR >3), and the metabolic syndrome (ATP III criteria) were evaluated according to the dailyMSG intake.

    RESULTS:

    The prevalence of the metabolic syndrome was significantly higher in the tertile with the highest MSG intake. Further, every 1 g increase in MSG intake significantly increased the risk of having the metabolic syndrome (odds ratio 1.14, 95% confidence interval-CI- 1.12 - 1.28) or being overweight (odds ratio 1.16, 95% CI 1.04 - 1.29), independent of the total energy intake and the level of physical activity.

    CONCLUSION:

    Higher amounts of individual MSG consumption are associated with the risk of having the metabolic syndrome and being overweight independent of other major determinants.

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    How Do You Ask For No Msg In Your Food In Thai?

    in Thai Food

    Posted

    "I have noticed my heart rate elevate and a flushing feeling every time I have had foods which have MSG in them."

    Exactly the same thing happens to me and now I try to stay away from it. I try to order food that generally does not need much MSG. Food courts seem to be fond users of MSG in my experience. Where the food sits and needs to stay tasty for a long time...

    Ive seen some studies on MSG proving it very unhealthy as well.

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    Rye Bread In Cm?

    in Chiang Mai

    Posted

    Thank you people.

    Yes butterisbetter, the bread from bei Otto was very heavy indeed. Would love to try your sourdough rye when you have it in stock (if you dont eat it all hehe). In the meantime Ill be sure to try your other rye bread.

    The local Finn you talked about is that Anns bakery? Wanted to try and order, but there seems to be a virus on the website. Someone should alert them.

    Jo´s is good, I buy it from time to time, but I prefer bread that is not pre sliced.

    Rye Bread In Cm?

    in Chiang Mai

    Posted

    Where do you buy your rye bread in CM? I am aware of the brands at Rimping and Tops. Are there any german bakeries that does this? I used to buy from Bei Otto in Bangkok when I lived there and they were great.

    Where And What Area Does This Dog Market Happen?

    in Chiang Mai

    Posted

    Most of the time they look and act just fine, playful and happy, since the viruses have not yet begun to do damage. Most are infected though. If you buy there the first thing you have to do is to go to the vet to see if the dog is infected. Even if the vet says it isnt, it can still be infected since it takes a couple of days for the virus to be visible in the feaces. Get the vet do give you some antibiotics, it will increase the chance of survival if it has parvo. If it has it will be very expensive for you. Bought a dog 2 years ago for 4000 b, probably spent 30 000 b trying to save its life and aftercare.

    Where And What Area Does This Dog Market Happen?

    in Chiang Mai

    Posted

    The dogs in the markets are almost all very very sick. Might be there is some good market that i dont know about but i doubt it. They look good, but most are infected with Parvo virus or another deadly virus with a name i cannot remember. You take them home and in the evening or the next day they start to throw up, then starts the diarrhea which soon turns into diarrhea with blood in it. Without intensive treatment they almost all die, and sometimes the treatment wont help and they die anyway. Going to end up much more expensive than buying from a decent place, and a very bad experience.

    Any Good Fishing Spots In Chiang Mai?

    in Chiang Mai

    Posted

    Huay Tung Tao, a lake a bit north of center, not to far from 700 year stadium sounds like what your could be after. Really beautiful and people relaxing and fishing. Also some restaurants och people swimming in the lake. Its a pretty big area, some of it for restaurants and swimming and some for fishing. Pay 20 baht to get in, dont know if fishing is extra.

    Why Are Used Book Stores So Expensive In Chiang Mai?

    in Chiang Mai

    Posted

    Used to go to one on in bangkok, near khao san, on the small temple road. About 30-40 percent cheaper than the ones in chiang mai. Good selection. Always lots and lots of customers. I find the ones in CM to be a bit expensive, the selection is not bad though. But 240 - 300 baht for a used book when you can buy a new one for about 350. I wouldnt bother if i coudnt exchange it for 50 percent when i was done. They dont seem to have many customers here though so that probably why they need to keep the price a bit higher.

    Taking Goods Out Of Thailand

    in Thailand Travel Forum

    Posted

    I though about bringing some stuff with me from thai to sell in my home country when i fly home in a couple of days. About 5 000 baht worth of small wooden figures to hang in gardens. Will be about 250 units i guess. Is that safe with the customs in thailand ? Its quite obvious that i intend to sell in my home country. Anybody know ?

    Thanks !

    The Best Massage In Chiang Mai...

    in Chiang Mai

    Posted

    In my experience high price is not necessarily an indication of good massage but more of nice surroundings. Used to go to Health land in Bangkok, which generally was good but still hit and miss with the massages. You do get treated like a king though. Now i go to a small shop near my home for 100 b per hour and the massage is fantastic.

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