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Just now, yogi100 said:You see all these immigrants working do you. Up in your village of 4,000 people? Or do you get your information from the MSM.
Don't think his information sources are that advanced, when he was after the youth unemployment figure of Portugal he quoted a number and his method of verification was to ask his Mrs ???? The basic concept is he's retiring to Portugal and is upset that Brexit may cause a slight kerfuffle with his visa situation so thinks the rest of the country should continue suffering to save him the possible effort of applying for a visa, selfish so and so.
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23 minutes ago, Jack100 said:
Sane , the UK used to be the 5th largest economy in the world but I think you will over the last 2 1/2 years it has slipped to 7 th .
Sorry about that and we ain't even started the process yet !
The size of the countries GDP doesn't matter when it doesn't filter down to the working class and doesn't result in better public services
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3 minutes ago, bomber said:
considering you cannot tell the difference between an coloured person of afro-carribean appearance and a white person of eastern european appearance who speaks a different language its no surprise,iam not a leftie either,i hate corbyn and co,you will voting for him though as your comments are as like something i would hear at a labour party conference
If your not a leftie why do you go to Labour Party conferences?
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2 hours ago, wilcopops said:lets face all the arguments have been said, in fact they were said a long, long time ago. What is happening now is a verbal war of contrition, the Brexiteers have been proved wrong on every point from sovereignty to economics to democracy and they won't "giver an inch" (where have we heard that before?).
The only thing left is derisions and insult, but even that is wearing thin...he country is split 52 48 and it will stay that way for decades - the Brexiteers of course claim they will put up with degradation in the name of leaving the EU..... for how long is another matter - as originally they thought Brexit was the door tp utopia.....but there is no arguing with someone as dumb as that so invective is the only tool.
I gave up on constructive debate with remainers years ago arguing with them is like playing chess with a pigeon, doesn't matter what you do that dumb bird is just gonna crap all over the board then strut around like it won. I feel it's important not to let the deluded fools live in an eco chamber though, they won't shut the hell up with their whinging so unless us Brexiters respond, remainers will start to believe their own lies and think they're in the majority.
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7 hours ago, wilcopops said:"Blood in the Streets: Investment Profits in a World Gone Mad Hardcover – June 1, 1987"
William Rees- Mogg's book on making fortunes out of disasters will help people understand the motivation behind the well-off people who support Brexit.
Haha your delusional every major bank, all three major parties, the majority of the press, the prime minister, the chancellor, the Governor of the Bank of England, the CBI and the IMF backed remain. Stop drinking the koolaid when they wheel out Tony Blair it's pretty obvious that the well-off people want to remain.
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1 hour ago, bomber said:
If it was that bad Greece would of ditched it,but they didnt and neither has any others voiced concern about it,why should they its a robust currency and brings many benefits.
Hahahah mate your comedy gold it's like listening to Trigger from only fools and horses try and debate politics.
Greece tried to ditch it in 2015, they had a referendum rejecting the EU's bail out package which would of meant them leaving the EU and ditching the Euro, the EU didn't like that decision so they had to have another referendum, sound familiar. The Euro is not and never has been a robust currency, it's the main cause of the stagnation in Southern Europe.
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7 minutes ago, bristolboy said:Here's what you wrote:
"i can tell you now if US growth drops from 3.5% to 2.5% then the US is classed as being in recession,"
To be fair in post 1724 he said "in the UK its 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth" but the he used wildly different classifications for declaring a recession in the US and Asia for some unknown reason. From reading bomers posts it's actually quite worrying how he's managed to absorb so little information over his adult life, I really hope someone else is looking after his finances.
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10 minutes ago, bomber said:
i can tell you now if US growth drops from 3.5% to 2.5% then the US is classed as being in recession,you can argue as much as you like its a not a recession but it is or to put it in simple terms for you when you get a bald patch on the top of your head your hair is receding your going bald slowly but surely,you might not be happy about it but its a fact.In the UK 2 back to back drops of 0.25% is classed as a recession,iam not sure about other countries but they will use similar figures give or take a little.
A recession is a drop in GDP for 2 consecutive quarters doesn't matter how you compare it to your receding hair line that's a simple indisputable fact.
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2 minutes ago, bomber said:
correct and you posted a report on one nation,that nation is currently enjoying around 3%+ growth per year which should be enough of a buffer to keep it out of negative growth for at least 12 months if not 18-24 imo,the UK does not have that buffer,the report you posted was also only for the next 12 months,the asian nations also still have more than enough growth to hold off negative growth but dropping from 6% to 4% is still classed as a recession,in the UK its 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth which is a doodle with only a 1% buffer,hence its a certainty we will drop first,remember if china,germany and the US cough then we sneeze.
If the global recession you forecast were to occur it would affect the US or it wouldn't be a global recession now would it.
Also dropping from 6% to 4% is not classed as a recession you need 2 terms of negative growth for that term to be applied, there's also no certainty "we will drop first" stop making things up.
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20 minutes ago, bomber said:
that is america,not the UK,they have been doing well the last few years and have a lot further to fall before a recession kicks in than the UK,2 days of snow does not register a blip on their GDP figures.
You predicted a global recession
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4 minutes ago, bomber said:
turn your TV on and you will find the answer,the world recession wont be quite as bad at the UKs though,the poorest nations always suffer the most,never mind there are plenty of soup kitchens around so ive been told on here.
Turned on the TV it reckons your full of it and theres not gonna be a recession within 12 months
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/recession-in-2019-heres-what-economists-are-predicting/
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4 minutes ago, bomber said:as opposed to you predicting a land of milk and honey after brexit,you could make an absolute fortune if you can predict the boom times,FTSE 100 should be your starting point,the mighty UKs 100 top companies all waiting for brexit and lift off,how much of invested if you dont mind me asking.
Kindly highlight the post in which I predicted a "land of milk and honey" you sound bite repeating moron. I mean come on <deleted> is a land of milk and honey? I don't remember Farage saying come on guys vote leave and you can have some milk and honey, milk and honey, these aren't even difficult to obtain items <deleted> if I wanted <deleted> and f'ing honey I'd just go to the shop and buy them, I don't base my voting preferences on the promise of cheap cheap dairy produce.
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12 minutes ago, bomber said:
Sorry but the latest manufactoring figures showed output had fallen...please check them..you are wrong...bearing in mind this iz with a very weak pound, it doesnt bode well for brexit or the upcoming world recession
What are you basing this forecast for an 'upcoming world recession' on and have you got a timeline for it? Could make an absolute fortune if you could actually predict a recession
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6 minutes ago, bomber said:
Sorry but the latest manufactoring figures showed output had fallen...please check them..you are wrong...bearing in mind this iz with a very weak pound, it doesnt bode well for brexit or the upcoming world recession
Stating that it's fallen from last month doesn't prove me wrong it's higher than it was on 23rd June 2016
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32 minutes ago, bomber said:
you state the weak pound is good for industry but after brexit the £ dropped 15-20% but the trade gap actually widened so that puts that rubbish to bed,in the meantime inflation rose so brits had less money in their pockets,it has steadied since though,you also say low interest rates allow plenty of room for corrective measures,thats rubbish as rates are 0.5% and when recessions have come in the past rates were usually 4-15% and the powers that be reduced them to stimulate growth,at 0.5% there is barely anything to play with,why do you think the fed hiked the rates up in recent years at least they have the means to tinker with now,the UK does not,it will be interesting to see when the recession comes and rates drop to zero and the pound drops to less than a euro and nears parity with the dollar if they hike rates up to strenghten the pound,if not then inflation is going to soar but so will peoples mortgages,also this when household debt is about the highest in europe,the future for the UK looks very grim indeed
I stated that a weak £ was good for the manufacturing sector which has been proven by increased manufacturing PMI, I didn't say that the weak pound has improved the trade deficit, that will take time.
I also stated that low interest rates give the BOE plenty of room for manoeuvre to control inflation as raising interest rates is a standard measure to lower inflation.
Forgive me for not taking your prediction of a recession seriously you see remainers have predicted a recession every single day since the referendum. One will come eventually but it won't be down to Brexit.
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1 minute ago, bomber said:
its also 21 miles away and the UK imports a lot from there,going elsewhere will incur more costs hence the BoE predicting inflation to rise with a no deal,how much is open to debate but they as iam myself would expect increases even more so with a weak pound which would be even weaker with a no-deal,this is not project fear but reality.
Yes the UK imports a lot from the EU i.e a massive trade deficit, you do realise that a long running trade deficit is incredibly bad and results in job loses and even the loss of entire industries. The weak £ is good for the manufacturing industry, inflation is pretty much at the BOE's target of 2% (currently 2.1%) and interest rates are low allowing plenty of room for corrective measures should inflation rise beyond the targeted rate.
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6 minutes ago, bomber said:
but Iran,south africa and chile are not germany,france and holland,iam sorry ya replacing premier league trading partners with vauxhall conference standard,we are well aware trade will still go on 70-80% as normal for the first year or two even with a no deal but its the job loses that have already happened and the others that WILL come with a bad brexit that are the concern,and many will leave despite what the brxit fans say,you dont even hear Boris these days stating what he was when he was campaigning,its snowed for 2 days now in the UK so the next GDP figures will be effected as usual,that tells you how weak the UK is and how very little it will take to sent the country crashing,even more so as their is a world recession just revving up,brexit could not of come at a worse time,5th biggest economy but only the 9th biggest exporter means we under produce,i dont think you realise that,or in football terms we concede more than we score,do you get it now,if we were the 5th biggest exporter we would be Great Britain again,a bad brexit and we wont even be 9th position thats what you lot dont understand,i would think even losing only 2 of the big 4 car producers would see us drop a few places,perhaps you could tell us where the replacements would come from,please dont reply with an iranian trade deal or a deal to IMPORT more chilean wine
For the love of god please stop with the terrible football analogies. When you compare the UK's population size being the 9th largest exporter isn't bad and as for having the 5th largest (think it's 7th now) it really doesn't matter if it doesn't filter down to the population in terms of good jobs and improved services.
Glad you mentioned the auto industry, how has the UK auto industry faired over the last 40 years within the EU? It's been decimated, now we produce vehicles for foreign manufacturers mainly for domestic consumption.
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51 minutes ago, wilcopops said:Unfortunately the world "outside is smaller and trees with the EU already -talk about parochial. Who the hell do you think will trade with UK in preference to EU?
You think the world outside the EU is smaller? seriously? hate to burst your bubble but there are 7.7 billion people in the world the 544 million within the EU is a tiny proportion or the global population.
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48 minutes ago, wilcopops said:Extreme Brexit could be worse than financial crisis for UK
there s now absolutely no doubt that any form of Brexit will leave UK worse of - in fact even the last 2 years before Brexit have cost the country billions.
why is so alarming is that even Brexiteers believe this is the case (unless they are completely out of touch) and they seem to think that this is an OK situation.
ThIn the space of 2 years appears Brexiteers have gone from a fools' utopia of milk, honey and unicorns to "So what if thousands of people will suffer?"
Any government that deliberately harms its own country is guilty of treason.
Man do you never get board of reciting sound bites? Have you any idea how ridiculous you sound "muuuur milk and honey and murrrr ummmm unicorns murrr and fairy's, no not fairy's just unicorns, but unicorns that want to have their cake and eat it and we're allllllll dooomed"
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16 hours ago, bomber said:chile ???? what are we going to sell them,maybe a lot of nissans,toyota's,landrover's and honda's,whoops i forgot they wont be built here soon,and the UKs wine industry is not worth £19 billion to the UK ecomomy i know,and 190,000 jobs are not dependant on it either and as we import 99% of our wine,this preferential trading agreement will benefit Chile not the small UK wine producers,if anything it will harm them,total nothing of an agreement which is why it was only signed by the ambassador,no jobs created in the UK from it,total nothing of an article that would of gone unnoticed without brexit,and will probably be void anyway with us remaining in the CU and SM
You don't actually know what the UK exports do you? We're the 9th largest global exporter which isn't bad for a country of 65 million people also most of our exports don't go to the EU, I know this may come as a massive shock to you parochial EU sycophants but there is a world outside of the EU.
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6 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:And let’s not talk about all those unnecessary gadgets and luxury items, warm water when cold water works as well, electricity when you can just burn a candle, or cars when walking is better for your health anyways. I’m proud that with Brexit we have the rare opportunity to get rid of all those nonsense and back to the good ol’ days when we were are proud nation. ❤️????????
Hahaha you think we only have hot water, electricity and cars because of the EU? Think you'll find we had all those things long before we joined you muppet
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1 minute ago, sandyf said:Of course these guys have no idea what they are talking about and should there be any problems it could only be down to the EU, the paranoid will continue to maintain that the UK is better off being worse off without them. After all who really needs five a day.
Leading supermarkets, including Sainsbury’s, Asda and Waitrose, are among a host of large retailers to warn MPs that a no-deal Brexit in March will see items disappear from supermarket shelves and could put the UK’s food security at risk.
No problem we'll just eat the remainers though they'd probably taste salty and bitter
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1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:All have vested economic interests in the UK staying in the EU. They don't care what the majority voted for just CEO's and others caring about the gravy train. We will see what happens. I don't think a no deal will happen, although I would love it too. I do however believe that like many politicians and Lords who keep trying to stop Brexit have more to it, than just disagreeing. Heseltine, Adonis.
Regardless of all this the whole referendum has been wonderful in my eyes. It has actually brought the EU into the British public's view. People who really didn't know about the way the EU works, now do. Even if Brexit is stopped it by this shower of MP's it will surface again. Probably without a lot of them, as they will be shown the door at the next GE.
This is what remainers don't seem to realise they seem to live in a bubble where they only hear what they want to hear. They're under the impression that the MP's can over rule Brexit and leavers will just forget about the whole thing and we'll all continue in the EU's mystical land of milk & honey (in this case milk being austerity & honey being mass youth unemployment). It's just not going to happen absolutely nothing has happened to make me change my mind, non of project fears forecasts have come to pass, not that I ever cared about them in the first place, the EU has shown no sign of reform and looks closer to collapse than ever. They might postpone Brexit but they'll never stop it.
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Extreme Brexit could be worse than financial crisis for UK: BoE
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Boring they've printed crappy articles like this everyday since the referendum and nothings happened, all they ever say is this could happen, how stupid do you have to be to keep falling for this rubbish. Here I'll make up tomorrows headline for you:
The world is definitely going to end after Brexit, a survey has revealed that 100% of all physicists agree that the world will end at some point after Brexit. The survey was conducted by Markit a company who predicted remain would win the referendum and have thus far predicted a recession will definitely start today for 635 days in a row since the referendum, but this time they're super sure they're right. A leading expert who no ones ever heard of before says Brexit made my kitten sad. There we have it folks scientific proof Brexit makes kittens sad.