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Aseana moto. great guy and knows his stuff.

http://www.asianamoto.com/motorcycle/dual-sport-tires

Price is confirmed at 530. Not sure why it hasn't been updated on BMW motorrad.

Spoke to ecu thailand and they tell me my ecu has to be sent to Italy. Forget that! More expensive than the PC5 by the time they've done!

During the 1st week in October I have an interview with BMW regarding the recently released (Thai Assembled) BMW F 800 GS.

I have a short list of questions I'd like to ask.

Are the any members who need question answering with interest to the 800 GS?

Thanks

According to Honda the HR-V will be released January 2015

ecu flash is good if cheap but it offers no flexibility and it will be locked again unless you have the flashing software and necessary things.

So, lets say, you want to do a map for city rides with fuel consumption on mind or another for spirited rides, it is possible with dynojet pc5 and autotune but not with ecu flash.

I mean auto tune is used by many from day rides to tracks so it sure works otherwise of course no one buy it, or buyers go to court to complain and it is in the market for a loong time

ecu flash is good to kill all engine restrictions as stated.

for ignition timing, you need an addition ignition module for dynojet.

I believe for proper tuning, both is needed but for only OP's slip on. ecu flash is enough unless no plans of future modding as it means another visit to ecu flash shop.

Cheers,

The main reason for the flash is I really don't think the bike is running great. I'm running it on Benzine 95 but I still get the odd flat-spot at slow speeds and puff of air when I apply the throttle before it kicks in. It's been like this for a while.

I have no plans to modify it as such, and I prefer trail riding than tarmac speed. Come next year I plan to change to the F 800 GS, maybe sooner depending on finances but in the meantime I'd like to get it tuned before my next run out around Kanchanaburi.

Thanks

An ECU flash can do not only fuel recalibration, but it can overwrite 'safety maps' and 'throttle restriction' (Kawasaki often implements these features- they did on my bike), plus it can change ignition settings, secondary throttle plate settings, speed restrictions, etc. Setting up my bike convinced me that tuning through the ECU is the way to go, and if you want to go the auto-tuner route, there are already systems in place for many models (though I don't know about the 650 Versys).

If I could go back to last year, I would never have bothered with a PC-5 and I would have done all tuning through the ECU.

Can any ecu shop do this are is the a reputable place specializing in bikes in BKK?

Is ecuthailand the place to go as mentioned by Mania?

Seems like what your asking for is a flash tune or someone to change/flash your ecu to make use of the new

free flowing exhaust correct?

If so here is one place

http://www.ecuthailand.com/

I personally do not care for such a flash as it is usually 60% of the cost of

a stand alone unit. Which would allow you to tune as many times as needed

Because when you flash your stock ecu if later you do anymore changes to your system you will again likely want/need a new flash

With a stand alone unit like Dynojet,power commander, two brother juice box etc you can change the maps

yourself in a minute

As for the power Commander more expensive auto tune deal I 100% dont think it is worth the extra costs

No auto tune can tune a multi cylinder with any accuracy & what you get is a general map anyway

So with that in mind IMO grab the less expensive models ( roughly $250 USD) Also the ones I mentioned are all made by the same folks Dynojet

but just have different labels on them.

if you do go this route of stand alone EFI you can just grab a bunch of maps from many places

free online or you can even play with one yourself & lean or enrich the area in the RPM band you feel lacking

Thanks,

exactly what I was looking for. I was originally considering the power commander but a few recommended a flash like you say. It does make more sense to add a stand alone unit in that case.

I seem to remember someone recommending a shop for tuning etc. I think my bike needs it especially after sticking the Scorpion slip-on exhaust.

Occasionally there us a dead spot when you first engage the throttle with the odd puff of air which sounds as though it exits the filter.

Any place to go in Bangkok?

Cheers

Cheers for the info people.

If anyone wants to join a small group of unorganized, impulsive bikers, feel free.

Huay mae khamin waterfalls which are 60Km after Erawan are amazing. So much better than the Erawan crowded with foreigners, specially Russian.

To get there will pass by some serious twistie roads which I really loved.

I have not explored past Huay mae khamin by bike, only by car with friends, there are more inaccessible waterfalls and at the border with Burma there are some aweseme spots.

Thanks, I'll look into this as avoiding tourist areas is a must. Cheers

Did you do Sisawat route to Sinakarin dam lake? Nice curves, some trails, a ferry journey accross the lake and good scenery. You can rent a boat house with mates and have fun and swim.

No, but I think we will take a look. Had a gander on google images. Looks quite interesting!

Kao Pa Noi is somewhat longer a route and has no accommodation at the top. I've driven both in Landys and ridden KPN on my 650GS during a full-on storm! There are some slightly more technical sections on KPN; I hear the last climb to the top of KK has been tidied up... When I drove up I grounded my axles out as the ruts were carved by 36" tires and I run on 32s. I had to climb up the top of the ridges which put the car over 30º as well as back close to 40! Nice finish to day. There is on 300m climb with no place to stop or lose momentum. When I rode it there were wash-out ruts that were pretty deep as the run was around 25º or more for 300 meters or so. We took 11 1200 GS, 2 KTM 990, one 650GS and two Polaris up three years back. I've not been since on 2-wheels...

There is a fork in the road at the BPP station. Left climbs to KPN and straight goes to Kao Dam where there is a temple with a bunch of international monks. If you have an existential crisis on the way, head straight! They will sort you out!

That route has more rocks than KPN which is more mud and washed out road. The final climb to the hill fort has two routes; hard left for a 40º or more traction test to the top, straight for some deep ruts and 50cm of water! Something for all!

I have Anakee 3s on at the moment and mud is not their strentgh. I rode KPN with TKC 80s and they were just great! Anyhow, that is my excuse for not asking to join you...

Enjoy.

From Sisawat cross on the ferry to Huay Mae Kamin and ride through Pha Sawan (Sawan hill). If you are up for a serious challenge then Kao Pa Noi or Kao Dam (temple) and Kao Krajom in Suan Phueng.

There is a navigable route from Suan Phueng to Bong Ti which is the start point for Kao Pa Noi. It passes the new border crossing and is a fantastic ride perfect for a dual sport...

Cheers,

Done Khao Krajom on the Versys with the Dunlops on, how does Kao Pa Noi compare.

Thanks,

I'm willing to give anything ago, but not sure the Versys is up to the tougher stuff. Need to stick a bash-plate on before I tackle that! As I mentioned I did KJ on road tires and went as far as the little river crossing before turning back. I've been to the top a few times in a 4x4. I think the first couple of corners are the trickiest bit for bikes as it's almost loose gravel and very steep, so I had to lock rear to keep control on the way back as the front would have gone. I've since put Scorpion Trails on but I don't rate them that high to be honest and should have gone with my instinct and bought the K60 Scouts. One of my colleagues prefers tarmac so we'll have to keep it pretty easy for the moment.

Thanks

Thanks for the pointers. We'll check them out.

From Sisawat cross on the ferry to Huay Mae Kamin and ride through Pha Sawan (Sawan hill). If you are up for a serious challenge then Kao Pa Noi or Kao Dam (temple) and Kao Krajom in Suan Phueng.

There is a navigable route from Suan Phueng to Bong Ti which is the start point for Kao Pa Noi. It passes the new border crossing and is a fantastic ride perfect for a dual sport...

Cheers,

Done Khao Krajom on the Versys with the Dunlops on, how does Kao Pa Noi compare.

Myself and a couple of mates, all Versys owners are looking for somewhere to ride in Kanchanaburi. We've done it a couple of times but only ventured as far as Hell Fire Pass, stopping at a couple of falls on the way, and usually ending up in the Aussie Rules Bar! We are generally quite impulsive and if we see a trails road we will often venture down to see where it leads. Tarmac ok, trail roads a must.

We've got a couple if days free between the 1st and 15th of October so if someone has a recommendation please suggest.

On the last trip we rode through Ratchaburi (Sueng Pueng) which has some great smooth roads.

Thanks in advance

Hi,

Sorry I wasn't very clear.

Hypothetically should the driver at fault and his insurance company pay out for damaged clothing etc?

Just curious as I had a minor issue with my insurance company recently.

Should a vehicle hit me and be a fault, causing damage to my bike, its protection such as hand guards/engine guards (Add-ons to protect the bike) and minor paint work, as well as damage to my protective clothing such as jacket and helmet (50k plus), be liable for replacement?

Many Thanks

Has been stated already. It depends on the crash involved. If rolling over, i'd prefer to be in a swift than a ranger or similar. If head-on then the opposite. If we are comparing Japanese cars there really is no safest in my opinion. The crash type, impact point are very different. Motorcycle helmets vary but may win the same safety rating award. a 5 star sharp helmet may receive 5 stars for side impact while the other the front.

It's not clear. Bumped into a fellow bike on his Versys two days ago who was prevented entry with his standard exhaust!

If it hasn't been mentioned already, check out Techmoan on youtube. He does the best reviews for dash and action cams.

Expect that most drivers haven't noticed you, and expect the ones that have don't care! Caution, vigilance and awareness are needed. Sometimes riding slower is more dangerous than trying to clear traffic. It's a day to day challenge, simple as that!

I enjoy solo rides but small groups of 3-4 riders also. We often pass through quiet villages and I feel it is a little inconsiderate with a big gang. Myself and my colleagues are equally impulsive and we often venture down a trial that looks interesting. Quite often it is a dead-end, but it's still worth exploring.

My understanding is, once the car is in their hands it becomes more difficult.  A lawyer is the best bet but a simple call to the finance company would be the obvious first step.

^I am seriously considering it too.