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I think you hit the nail on the head there. 51 years old and having to count his cetongs. (I am sure you know the correct spelling) I wonder if he was the guy about a year ago wondering where he could turn them all in?

I do have to disagree with you about 2 in one room. It works quite well for me and the Mrs. In fact it has been a fantastic journey. Living this way you learn to respect them and trust them and being from two different cultures you learn about the other one and get to see some of the finer points in it. The rough points I have learned to over look. Except for the one if I ask a question and the answer is yes I get a grunt. Maybe that is just her and not her culture.

]If you think, which you do that my written English is bad you should hear my spoken English,,though you guessed wrong i am from the Island that is still called the UK, for how long that is another story

I guess it must be difficult for you to get out of the maze of yer 9 roomer so havent seen a lot of Thailand,but 6 or more to a room unfortunately does happen .

Maybe you are able to help these people but are you willing

I have lived in Chiangmai for a very long time and your cost of living really depends on your social status and who you mix with.Basically you can divide "farangs" as you like to call yourself into three groups. There are those who live in Thailand because it is much cheaper than thier own country. They frequent bars and Pubs and eat western food and don't speak Thai. They get by on 30,000 - 50,000 baht. There is a middle group who I prefer to label as expats. They have been there a long time .Most speak some Thai. They probably eat mostly Thai food and live well in a more Asian way. They seldom go to bars or Pubs and they probably have gome good Thai freinds. They spend perhaps 40,000 - 80,000 baht a month. Then the upper group of wealthy long trem expats who have many Thai friends and spend money on good food and eat both western and Thai food. Many have permanent reisidence or even Thai citizenship. Most speak Thai A lot of them are those who have worked in Thailand and have retired many are ex public school. In this group are also many very wealthy expats whos have made Chiangmai there home but have not been so long in the country. Most would not go to Pubs or bars. Theyy lavishly entertain at their homes. They spend 80,000 to 150,000 baht a moth.

So it really boils down to what type of social life you want to lead. The advantage of Chiangmai is that it is easy to fit in to what you feel at home with. .

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What about all those that don't fit in your 3 groups? Not counting but more then half the expats I know don't fit. I know many expats that have lived, and saved (a tiny bit by western standards), on 25,000 to 30,000 Baht a month. And some of them have families. Just as I know families in north america that have a household income of over 3 million baht a year yet never manage to save. And many speak perfect Thai, but not that this matters.

What about the expat that does have a high income yet happily lives in a nicely cared for 4000 - 6000 Baht a month house, does not frequent the pups, and cooks most meals at home?

A friend and his wife once showed me their monthly budget of 15,000 baht a month, combined earn much more than that, yet though there house is modest they have a very active, social life and nice things. They travel often, and save over 60,000 baht a month. You won't meet them at the bars you frequent.

All of the above take several holidays afar every year, vacationing and recreating in the north often. I do.

I can make any food I desire at home and do, though making things with western ingredients does raise these cost - but it's worth it a few times a week. Seafood and other treats often too; good food and plenty of variety are why I cook. If I skipped on the western dishes, and shopped only from the markets our diet would be healthy and very affordable. Say spending about 2000 baht a week at the markets for veggies, fruit, meat, and other products; almost is all I can carry on the motorbike based over 3 market shops a week.

wise words.some people ae more sensible than others and see the real value and the variety that can be achieved here as well as back in the west

I know guys who live not exist on a food bill of 10 per week eating a variety of the best quality food you can buy that hasmt being commercialised as a health food yet

anyway this is about how much you can live on at low to middle end

15000 and up definately if you are not stupid follow thr growd of what entetainment is and isnt and what living or existing is

I can live on 15000 for me and my girlfriend

costof room is 5000 plus another 1000 for electricity and water(slightly cheaper actually )

As i am fussy about food we do most of our own cooking

There is an organic veggie market so you can get healthy food

plus cooking for oneself i eat more than the portians that are available outside

A normal low end Thai dish is 30-35 per portian but i normally end up eating 2 portians

2-3 times a day so my self alone if i am eating out about 200 baht

but like i said i eat in most days and organically too

A beer is between 44 -70 depending on your brand you like

and a johnny walker whisky is 770

dont even touch the Thai stuff for a couple hundred baht more you get a no bad real whisky

a few self sufficient places around CM where you can stay all in for 200 baht per day and live off the land and learn somw real skills

any questions ask

slainteva

I don't know how old you are (actually it doesn't really matter) but how could two people live in one single room??? To me that is existing; not living. My (rented) home here has 9 rooms and it is no where near big enough for 3 of us. My home that I owned in Los Angeles had 13 rooms + a garage and a guest house and it was not large enough either.

hahah thats a typical american saying

whenthe yanks saw Edinburgh castle they all to a person used to brag what i have a bigger garage haha

me i,m 51 and i used to live in a bigger cave with fresh water through the bACK

NOW I,M DOWNSIZING no sometimes we have her sister and her boyfriend as well as her mum and dad staying who said anthing about 2 people,sorry if you got the wrong impression

its the Thai way guess you must be in number 1 of the above bracken not quite school boy enough for bracket 3

I can live on 15000 for me and my girlfriend

costof room is 5000 plus another 1000 for electricity and water(slightly cheaper actually )

As i am fussy about food we do most of our own cooking

There is an organic veggie market so you can get healthy food

plus cooking for oneself i eat more than the portians that are available outside

A normal low end Thai dish is 30-35 per portian but i normally end up eating 2 portians

2-3 times a day so my self alone if i am eating out about 200 baht

but like i said i eat in most days and organically too

A beer is between 44 -70 depending on your brand you like

and a johnny walker whisky is 770

dont even touch the Thai stuff for a couple hundred baht more you get a no bad real whisky

a few self sufficient places around CM where you can stay all in for 200 baht per day and live off the land and learn somw real skills

any questions ask

slainteva

I don't know how old you are (actually it doesn't really matter) but how could two people live in one single room??? To me that is existing; not living. My (rented) home here has 9 rooms and it is no where near big enough for 3 of us. My home that I owned in Los Angeles had 13 rooms + a garage and a guest house and it was not large enough either.

hahah thats a typical american saying

whenthe yanks saw Edinburgh castle they all to a person used to brag what i have a bigger garage haha

me i,m 51 and i used to live in a bigger cave with fresh water through the bACK

The cost of living in Chiangmai isn't cheap compared to some other parts of Thailand.It depends where your at.i've seen prices there near the same as prices in Bangkok.The more farangs there are in an area the more things will cost.Maybe basic things are near the same but food etc,at farang type grocery stores

it cost more money.

Give ya a tip on the place.The quality of the air isn't good.

top tip the air quality is shocking thats one reason i suggested cambodia well a certain place in cambodia that i wont reveal here

huge fish in the market 50 baht fish half the size in restuarant 150-200baht

i kg chicken breast in market 100 baht i small plate of chicken around 100g 30 baht

milk i huge carton 89 baht

i kg red rice 35 baht in market i small plate of white rice in restaurant 5-20 baht

coffee in starbucks 90 baht in aka ama the best coffee in town 35-40 baht

phone 600 baht(yes it actually does what it says as well as text

phone card 100 baht top up

water 50 cents

mineral water 15baht

great green tea 700

poncho for the rain 15baht

plus you have to throw into the equastion visa extensions,buses planes it soon adds up to around 500 pounds per month

Cambodia is a better option not so much red tape

whats your lifestyle

I can live on 15000 for me and my girlfriend

costof room is 5000 plus another 1000 for electricity and water(slightly cheaper actually )

As i am fussy about food we do most of our own cooking

There is an organic veggie market so you can get healthy food

plus cooking for oneself i eat more than the portians that are available outside

A normal low end Thai dish is 30-35 per portian but i normally end up eating 2 portians

2-3 times a day so my self alone if i am eating out about 200 baht

but like i said i eat in most days and organically too

A beer is between 44 -70 depending on your brand you like

and a johnny walker whisky is 770

dont even touch the Thai stuff for a couple hundred baht more you get a no bad real whisky

a few self sufficient places around CM where you can stay all in for 200 baht per day and live off the land and learn somw real skills

any questions ask

slainteva

There is no restriction on the amount of time you can stay in Thailand so yes you can exit and return for a new visa exempt or visa entry.

Extensions of stay cost 1,900 baht (always).

Visa starts from day of issue by Consulate (the permission to stay starts on entry). But a two entry visa obtained just prior to departure would allow normal 60 day plus 30 day extension - you would just have to leave a day or two early to return for the second entry (prior to 90 days from date of visa issue). And that second entry could also be extended 30 days.

this is correct and what i was trying to say

only thing i would add is after the final extension then you have to leave Thailand and try to get another visa.

Getting a double entry or triple entry is getting more difficult if you have had these previously.I am talking about getting a visa from neighbouring countries.

off course you can just fly back and get the 30 days on entry Without visa

or same 15 days at mae sai if yer in the North

both the above options become tiring as well as expensive

Thank you, but as I understand it a visa has to be used within 90 days, and both entries. If I apply in Norway for a double entry visa, that will have to be done some time before I travel. Then I can use the first entry of course, but I won't be able to use the second because it will be more than 90 days since the embassy here gave me a visa approval.

Another issue that comes to mind is plane tickets. I mean, I actually have to buy the tickets to apply for a visa. Scary if the visa does not get approved and I have bought the ticket already. I don't know if I can get a booking without paying anything.

Also wondering if I have to buy a return ticket within 90 days, then change it later with the airline.

How long do you want to stay in thailand?

Your double or even triple entry visa starts from the day you arrive in Thailand

so for example you ask for a double entry

you receice 60 days then you can get an extension for another 30 days cost 1990 baht

you then have to leave Thailand come back in the same day

another 60 days get another 30 day extension cost 1990 baht

so a total of 180 days

if you have a triple you just go out after the 2nd extendsion finishes

come back the next day or even same day

60 days then apply for a 30 day extension when finished

so in fact you can get 270 days in total on 1 visa application

that is on a uk passport

if a double like i said 180 dAYS

On Suthep road, opposite side from Maharaj Chiang Mai hospital.

http://www.nsfmachin...9009990&Ntype=1

good for growing potatoes

forgot to add that i am loosly following the moon cycle bio dynamic calender

and am intested in companion planting and medicinal plants

planted a lot of sunflowers for the seed aswell as to compost as well as marigold to cleanse the soil a bit

The chillies are now in the process of being used for the next compost heap

so i plan to follow the biointensive root of planing the garden

ok sorry 3am i,m rambling on a bit

cheers

jamie

Hello My name is Jamie and i have a 1 rai piece of land in the chyprakan area.

It would be good to hook up with other people nearby to share ideas and see the results of one hard work as well as get away from the land for a few hours

,not that i dont love it but i need a change sometime to save my poor back if anything

I.ve just grown some chillies,lychees mangoes soya as well as various greens

and compost as much as i can

in trested in charcoal and urine in the soil to see the benefits or not

as well as bokashi

aim is to be as self sufficient and self contained as possible

on food stuffs

i like the idea of weaving but it aint goig to happen in this lifetime

now live in a wood bamboo house

hoping to build my own mud house if people have knowladge of that

ok just a quick note

cheers

jamie

For local roaster that use local beans agree.

Akha Ama coffee, best in town.

agree also i thought it was my little secret

just to warn people that there are bag snatchers in theytmca area

Mt Thai girlfriend was attcked the other morning around 10am just round the corner from Ymca on the way to central

it was raining at the time so she wacked the young good looking guy (her description) with her brolly(umberela) and screamed at him

and she run off to her sisters nearby

After talking to one of the guards at a nearby housing complex seemingly there has been at least 2 attacks in the past few months

I did inform staff at ymca about this as my girlfriend wouldnt go to the police

just to let people know

be careful at any time of the day around there

j

i am/.was a frequent flyer with klm ,never managed to get any off their deals on line but thats another story

Goodman travels at the warorot market end

ask for poppy

she got me a good deal on a flight to edinburgh via amsterdam

12-14 thapae road

53874350

I don't know about your area or about current availability, but in Chiang Mai I got free jack-bean seeds from the 'Land Development Office' (about 10k north of the SuperHwy on the Mae Rim (107) hwy, on the west (Doi Pui) side between the hospital and the (121) ring road).

At that time they had black beans, sesbania and others too. We didn't need a 'tabien baan', only my wife's ID, filled out a form with address and amount of rai. They calculated coverage rates and based the allotment on that; we pulled around back with the pickup and they loaded us up with the appropriate number of sacks of seed. I was only seeding about 4 rai, so I don't know what their upper limit is.

The land development office also does free soil analysis. The only problem is that it takes 45 days (sent to Lampang) and is a very basic NPK report with no interpretation or recommendations. I get better, more complete, 2 week soil analysis reports from Mae Jo University soil science department for 500 baht. And they have a soil science professor available to interpret and make recommendations for amendments if needed.

But you don't need a soil analysis to 'green manure'. don

Hello d treelove

is it possible you can give me the name of the land developmet office in Thai please thank you