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Is ford going to do anything with this rust issue? If it's a bad batch of bolts there should be a number of complaints, and the fix is simply to replace them with properly treated ones. After getting them fixed I'd be inclined to get the under body coated to prevent moisture and repeat it every 6 months.

It's not a bad batch. The Ranger is shit and gets rust. That's it.

Also, Ford service in Thailand is worse than Chevrolet.

You want to buy a pickup? Get a Dmax like every construction guy out there.

Doesn't matter. The point was, I would never buy a used modified car.

That Metallic Gray/Blue, whatever that is, makes it look less gay. Pick that one.

A friend I was chatting online with recently said he thinks he saw a commercial for a V6 Pajero Sport, if so then that could tempt me as none of the other manufacturers offer similar so an import would be the only option which obviously means lots of tax! Can anyone confirm this?

The Mitsubishi thailand website can confirm it. Just have a look in there.

Just check the wear guides in the tires themselves.

Hi All,

i am considering to purchase the new Honda CRV 2012/2013 and have been offered only 800k for my top conditioned 1st hand Accord from the Honda dealer in Pattaya. I am going to check some local dealer on Sukhumvit Rd. tomorrow as well.

Any other advices/experiences or recommended channels e.g. online markets/websites?

Thanks J.

I wouldn't touch that car. Would never buy it.

Warning sign #1. Not the rims that came with the car. They look awful. God knows what else has been done.

Was it lowered too?

I am a bit surprised by the vain attempts of TC on this "hi-so" thing. That he imagines he will look hi-so just from having a pickup beats me.

For Thais, being "hi-so" means so many other things apart from having a foreign imported car. Obviously, it never crossed TC's mind.

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Another one Jealous. 1 Cruze. Leather. Blacked out like the batman car. People go in there and piss in their nickers.

Next to that I will have a massive pearly white D-Max. Leather. Navigation. Bed dividers and nets. Also a lid. It'll be sick. It'll be super HiSo and all the bitches will pee even more.

Think you need to find a girl friend.

My girlfriend pees every time she gets into my Cruze.

I am a bit surprised by the vain attempts of TC on this "hi-so" thing. That he imagines he will look hi-so just from having a pickup beats me.

For Thais, being "hi-so" means so many other things apart from having a foreign imported car. Obviously, it never crossed TC's mind.

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Another one Jealous. 1 Cruze. Leather. Blacked out like the batman car. People go in there and piss in their nickers.

Next to that I will have a massive pearly white D-Max. Leather. Navigation. Bed dividers and nets. Also a lid. It'll be sick. It'll be super HiSo and all the bitches will pee even more.

I thought Ford Rangers don't really hold their value well.

I think I've made up my mind. Z Prestige D-Max Hi-Lander. If we ever get a truck. That's the one.

I'll get it in that White color they got too. What do they call it? The one you have to pay more for?

Anyway. You guys got nothing on that with your Rangers and Tritons. Mine looks much more Hi-So

I'm going to be styling. You guys hauling pineapples.

It rocks so hard you guys have no chance. None

Talk about gaining face...

I can see the Viigo/Ranger/Triton owners frantically typing away, as their hands tremble trying to justify their purchase. Go exchange it now for a V-Cross and spare yourself further embarrassment and rust.

Now TC, guess which pickup I see most around Thonglor? Ford Ranger. So much for your attempted lame justification for a hi-so image of the Isuzu. Go in the country and those hauling pinapples will be more often than not an Isuzu.

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Thonglor. Only Steers and Queers come from Thonglor. I'm surprised its not that gay Mazda one.

My D-Max will be so Hi-So you guys will pee your pants.

Bet you won't tell us here when stuff starts rattling and falling apart.

And like your Cruze it will be the best ride on the planet eh.

PS. Love to hear if Isuzu has got rid of the dated ancillary V drive belt. Have asked here many times but no answers.

We love our car. Your car is shit. So you're jealous. I get it.

Watched 'Top Gear' for years,

I seam to remember way back the all new X3, was tested and given a very poor report, something like 6 out of 20........ looking at a much newer report they say it is rather a good package..

That's because cars either improve or get worse. Obviously the X3 has improved. Back when the X3 came out it used to be a joke.

Whatever you get, get a Panasonic.

You'll find cheaper Samsungs. Don't be tempted. Pay the extra and get the Panasonic.

My D-Max will be so Hi-So you guys will pee your pants.

You guys have to be careful out there.

My mother in law was in her house watching TV minding her own business. Some woman showed up saying she was from True and just wanted to check her box and her card and offered her all these free things. MiL said "yea but I have no problem with my cable". "True person said "no but I just want to check anyway". Woman had no ID from True or anything. My MiL said No and never let her in the house.

SCAM.

Woman offers to go in your house and get a new car for you and you don't have to go to the dealer? Boloney. You want a car, Go to the dealer.

Same if they call you from your bank and ask you for information. What do you do? Tell them you need to hang up the phone. Let me have your number and extension and I will call you back. If they are for real, they will give you the bank's number and their extension. Also a Bank would never ask you for your personal information out of nowhere by phone or email.

Just common sense people.

I tried it out before we thought about buying bigger. It's just way too small. Also, the interior for me is tragic. I felt the steering wheel was uncomfortable too. I sat down for 10 seconds and couldn't wait to get out of it.

Is it still maintaining rust though? That would worry me after less than 60 days.

After all the crap I got from buying a Cruze and all the praise people got from buying a Ranger.

Ranger = Use less than 60 days - Rust

Cruze = Use over 1 year/driven through floods - 1 noisy brake pad fixed by cleaning at the local B-Quick.

You can dress up a monkey in silk. It's still a monkey.

<deleted> are you talking about?

The Fiesta of course. You can put all the extra options, but in the end, it's still a tin can Fiesta.

I thought Ford Rangers don't really hold their value well.

I think I've made up my mind. Z Prestige D-Max Hi-Lander. If we ever get a truck. That's the one.

I'll get it in that White color they got too. What do they call it? The one you have to pay more for?

Anyway. You guys got nothing on that with your Rangers and Tritons. Mine looks much more Hi-So

I'm going to be styling. You guys hauling pineapples.

It rocks so hard you guys have no chance. None

Talk about gaining face...

I can see the Viigo/Ranger/Triton owners frantically typing away, as their hands tremble trying to justify their purchase. Go exchange it now for a V-Cross and spare yourself further embarrassment and rust.

Yes SoCalChris is right, service history is important and can give you hints if the odometer have been tampered with.

There is a company in BKK (forgot the name) that can check the car for you, they check the engine and also the chassis with laser so they will detect if the car had been in an accident or not.

Some cars that had an accident have been welded up by some small shop and will never be the same again so be careful.

It's called TestCar in Bangkok. They'll tell you the dealers that work with them.

http://www.testcar.co.th/english.index.php

OP. cancel this crap. Get a D-Max.

I am definitely getting Ford Thailand itself involved in this. This is basically what I wrote to my friend so he can help me deal with Ford since his company uses Ford trucks and has had to deal with Ford on many occasions:

April

-Wanicha Meetom (scammer) comes to my house to set up a booking contract with me. Paid 5000. The general contents of the contract are as follows: Truck price 779,000 along with promotional benefits of free first class insurance for the first year, expected delivery month 9-10 (sept-oct). I submitted to her documents for finance (ID, bank book records going back six months, etc.).

-After a month and half or so, I ask her about the status of my finance and she claims it has been going slow, that the officer at TISCO handling my case hasn't been able to work efficiently for various reasons. Later on she claims that the finance officer lost all my documents and that she needs to resubmit new copies. It's going to be quite a few months before I get the truck according to the contract so I don't press much.

August

-She comes to my house and picks up the copies all over again claiming that my case has been referred to another officer, and picks up the second set of copies. All along from the beginning she has reassured me that finance would be taken care of in a matter of just a few weeks.

-She calls one day and says there's an aurora blue truck available if I wanted it now and I refuse because I want gunmetal blue. She claims Ford has been having issues with production and delivery, bla bla, and that delivery might be later than October because there aren't enough trucks, as if implying I don't get this ugly blue one I'll be waiting a while. Later that SAME day, she offers a red truck. I decline once again, wanting my original color choice.

September

-She notifies me that my finance has passed and wanted to pick up a few more documents which she has already taken as part of the second set of copies given to her in August. She never comes for them and keeps putting it off. I'm thinking this inefficiency and mess is just typical Thai BS and it is fine cos I don't ever have to go to her or the dealer to give these documents, she comes to my place.

-I call and ask when she's going to come and get the extra documents and she says finance will call me in a week citing their protocol. I never get that call. I figure finance is irrespective of truck delivery because some people have their cars waiting ready for pickup at some showrooms but are waiting for their finance to pass or just forget about it and let the dealer give them to someone else. Since it has already passed I figure push for processing when Wanicha notifies me ahead of time of the truck's arrival. I am aware that once the truck arrives they still have to install accessories like film and liners so it's not like I can go and get it right away.

October

-I call numerous times asking about my truck with suspicions implied surrounding paperwork/finance and ford factory issues she claims it has. Her excuse used to be ford suppliers not being able to pick up from the floods so ford stalls. Now it's that ford has reallocated labor to focus on the new ford focus sedan and not enough capacity for the trucks. I ask about ford's procedures/ nature of manufacture-delivery with respect to the booking dates that dealerships (especially Romklao) submit in their orders and she is literally speechless and cannot tell me except for "don't worry".

-I send her a message in English pestering about my truck. A few days later I get a message in Thai saying "I will try to get your truck on time but if it doesn't work out I am happy to return your 5000".

-Her message prompts me to call Romklao and speak to the manager that evening. He says she's been fired for two months. I describe whatever I could remember on the contract and he says it's fake. They have no record of my booking. Truck price has gone up 20,000. (in that call he said 10,000 but he misquoted or lied dunno. I checked myself and it's indeed up 20,000). He says she was fired because she had been caught scamming others as well. We both agree to file a police report together soon and he assures me he will try his best to get me the booking price. In the meantime he wants to call Wanicha. Called Wanicha myself to tell her off. Basically she claims she can still get me the truck as an ex-employee which is BS. She never addresses my knowledge of her scam directly. I demand she returns 5000, pay 20,000 for first class insurance premium I just lost, and pay the difference for the price increase. She says she can't afford it yadda yadda…. and I threaten to call the cops. I ask about all my personal documents and bank info that she has in her hands and her intentions with them…she says don't worry bla bla. Nothing I can do about that anyway.

-Manager calls back turns out he has spoken to Wanicha and supposedly tells her off and demands she return 5000 and make up for my promotional benefits that have been lost or else he'll call the cops too.

-Then manager says later he can shave off 10,000 from the price (which is evident in the booking contract he snapped a picture of and sent me a few days ago….said he'll mail the hard copy to me) and has supposedly demanded Wanicha cough up the other 10,000.

-Later on the phone Wanicha says she just spoke to the manager and that "she will help with 10,000 so the new price comes down 10,000" when in fact that 10,000 she refers to is the dealer's own expense, pathetically thinking I'll believe that first 10,000 is from her. She is still responsible for the other 10,000. She hangs up.

-Regarding the former, manager says he is still waiting for a response from her on her 10,000 with the cop threat. He now says he'd rather not call the cops as the cops will not do anything…pushing for them to do anything will cost, lawyer's fees, etc.

(I had no comment about his backing out on the cops cos I'm thinking I'll do it myself anyway and the burden which he does not want will be just mine, which is fine. I expect no burden anyway because I do believe the cops won't give a crap. Report is filed and remains as paper on some cop's desk. If they do go after her, then win, whatever)

-Later informs that Wanicha has at least wired back 5000 but to the dealership which I do not immediately believe.

(the fact that Wanicha still generally answers calls and calls on her own accord lead me to believe she's been running around trying to fix it because she's probably taking the cop threat seriously, except she's thinking hard how she's gonna get the money. So maybe it's going somewhere. I plan to go to the cops anyway whether she coughs up 10,000 or not).

-On phone Wanicha says that she did take care of the finance so got Wanicha to give up a name at TISCO. Call to verify and finance was in fact filed and processed, according to this officer whose name Wanicha gave at least. This person could be Wanicha's friend sitting on a couch somewhere who knows.

-Mentioned it to manager he calls back and supposedly verified it himself that finance is real.

(I wondered why she even bothered filing it when she was scamming me all along. Perhaps so that in case I check and it's real I don't get suspicious, while the truck was never coming)

-26^th Oct. I receive an image on my phone of the contract manager prepared which is supposed to be legit now. It indicates that I have already paid 5000 also explicitly showing he took off 10,000:

-On the phone says he'll mail it "fast mail" which I assume it's EMS. Asked how plausible his word on December really is (I'm thinking the only way he can do that is to stick me ahead of the queue but that's his problem). He assures me and asks me to trust him. Then interestingly he volunteers that he had also caught Wanicha jumping queues for people and it's actually the main reason why she was fired, aside from scamming.

(at this point I think once I get the contract in the mail and its real this is going somewhere. I wonder why he didn't call the cops when he first fired her but whatever because if the contract is legit this time, I'll get the car eventually. His word of December is better than guaranteed long 5-6 months at another dealership. If he fails on December then it's the same as booking elsewhere anyway and still I'll file a police report on her, and sending a letter myself to Ford co. chief at some point down the line)

-I ask the manager frankly why he didn't call the cops in the first place when he fired her and as if pressured he volunteers that in fact she was fired not 2 months ago but 5 months ago! So I started questioning him suspiciously and basically his reasoning seems to suggest he didn't want to upset me to much. <deleted>?!?!

(I'm thinking even before I met this dealership, he and his employees are all into this dirty business and he gets kick-backs. For wanicha scamming others, maybe she messed up and he used some excuse to get rid of her before it leads to him. Maybe the company was never called out on this because the people she scammed just simply thought it was too slow and cancelled their booking before raising any issues. That's probably why he didn't need to go to the police when he fired her and if he did, she would give up his name and he'd be in trouble too. Anyway, banking on the new contract that is to arrive in the mail and if it's real, whatever this manager is up to it simply seems like he's trying to save his own ass from getting in trouble by quietly taking care of it by fixing it right for me).

-Manager says he's sending the contract as registered mail. I call back again to ask for the tracking number but he did not answer the call.

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Wow. All this crap for a lousy 5,000 baht?

No, because he was waiting for a car he ordered 8 months ago and is now informed that he will have to start from zero again.

If it had been a Cruze he had ordered, he would probably be relieved with that message, but instead he ordered a decent ride.

Thanks but I was referring to the woman going through all that for 5,000 baht.

Hopefully the ranger is such a nice ride that one day I'll see more Rangers on the road than Cruzes. But not so far.

My daily commute is WAY more comfortable in the Cruze than it would be in a Ranger.

Flash sucks.

I could find the Dmax page just fine when I went. Just that the whole thing is in bloody FLASH. Flash sucks.

It would be faster for me to drive to the Isuzu dealer than to browse that website.

I am definitely getting Ford Thailand itself involved in this. This is basically what I wrote to my friend so he can help me deal with Ford since his company uses Ford trucks and has had to deal with Ford on many occasions:

April

-Wanicha Meetom (scammer) comes to my house to set up a booking contract with me. Paid 5000. The general contents of the contract are as follows: Truck price 779,000 along with promotional benefits of free first class insurance for the first year, expected delivery month 9-10 (sept-oct). I submitted to her documents for finance (ID, bank book records going back six months, etc.).

-After a month and half or so, I ask her about the status of my finance and she claims it has been going slow, that the officer at TISCO handling my case hasn’t been able to work efficiently for various reasons. Later on she claims that the finance officer lost all my documents and that she needs to resubmit new copies. It’s going to be quite a few months before I get the truck according to the contract so I don’t press much.

August

-She comes to my house and picks up the copies all over again claiming that my case has been referred to another officer, and picks up the second set of copies. All along from the beginning she has reassured me that finance would be taken care of in a matter of just a few weeks.

-She calls one day and says there’s an aurora blue truck available if I wanted it now and I refuse because I want gunmetal blue. She claims Ford has been having issues with production and delivery, bla bla, and that delivery might be later than October because there aren’t enough trucks, as if implying I don’t get this ugly blue one I’ll be waiting a while. Later that SAME day, she offers a red truck. I decline once again, wanting my original color choice.

September

-She notifies me that my finance has passed and wanted to pick up a few more documents which she has already taken as part of the second set of copies given to her in August. She never comes for them and keeps putting it off. I’m thinking this inefficiency and mess is just typical Thai BS and it is fine cos I don’t ever have to go to her or the dealer to give these documents, she comes to my place.

-I call and ask when she’s going to come and get the extra documents and she says finance will call me in a week citing their protocol. I never get that call. I figure finance is irrespective of truck delivery because some people have their cars waiting ready for pickup at some showrooms but are waiting for their finance to pass or just forget about it and let the dealer give them to someone else. Since it has already passed I figure push for processing when Wanicha notifies me ahead of time of the truck’s arrival. I am aware that once the truck arrives they still have to install accessories like film and liners so it’s not like I can go and get it right away.

October

-I call numerous times asking about my truck with suspicions implied surrounding paperwork/finance and ford factory issues she claims it has. Her excuse used to be ford suppliers not being able to pick up from the floods so ford stalls. Now it’s that ford has reallocated labor to focus on the new ford focus sedan and not enough capacity for the trucks. I ask about ford’s procedures/ nature of manufacture-delivery with respect to the booking dates that dealerships (especially Romklao) submit in their orders and she is literally speechless and cannot tell me except for “don’t worry”.

-I send her a message in English pestering about my truck. A few days later I get a message in Thai saying “I will try to get your truck on time but if it doesn’t work out I am happy to return your 5000”.

-Her message prompts me to call Romklao and speak to the manager that evening. He says she’s been fired for two months. I describe whatever I could remember on the contract and he says it’s fake. They have no record of my booking. Truck price has gone up 20,000. (in that call he said 10,000 but he misquoted or lied dunno. I checked myself and it’s indeed up 20,000). He says she was fired because she had been caught scamming others as well. We both agree to file a police report together soon and he assures me he will try his best to get me the booking price. In the meantime he wants to call Wanicha. Called Wanicha myself to tell her off. Basically she claims she can still get me the truck as an ex-employee which is BS. She never addresses my knowledge of her scam directly. I demand she returns 5000, pay 20,000 for first class insurance premium I just lost, and pay the difference for the price increase. She says she can’t afford it yadda yadda…. and I threaten to call the cops. I ask about all my personal documents and bank info that she has in her hands and her intentions with them…she says don’t worry bla bla. Nothing I can do about that anyway.

-Manager calls back turns out he has spoken to Wanicha and supposedly tells her off and demands she return 5000 and make up for my promotional benefits that have been lost or else he’ll call the cops too.

-Then manager says later he can shave off 10,000 from the price (which is evident in the booking contract he snapped a picture of and sent me a few days ago….said he’ll mail the hard copy to me) and has supposedly demanded Wanicha cough up the other 10,000.

-Later on the phone Wanicha says she just spoke to the manager and that “she will help with 10,000 so the new price comes down 10,000” when in fact that 10,000 she refers to is the dealer’s own expense, pathetically thinking I’ll believe that first 10,000 is from her. She is still responsible for the other 10,000. She hangs up.

-Regarding the former, manager says he is still waiting for a response from her on her 10,000 with the cop threat. He now says he’d rather not call the cops as the cops will not do anything…pushing for them to do anything will cost, lawyer’s fees, etc.

(I had no comment about his backing out on the cops cos I’m thinking I’ll do it myself anyway and the burden which he does not want will be just mine, which is fine. I expect no burden anyway because I do believe the cops won’t give a crap. Report is filed and remains as paper on some cop’s desk. If they do go after her, then win, whatever)

-Later informs that Wanicha has at least wired back 5000 but to the dealership which I do not immediately believe.

(the fact that Wanicha still generally answers calls and calls on her own accord lead me to believe she’s been running around trying to fix it because she’s probably taking the cop threat seriously, except she’s thinking hard how she’s gonna get the money. So maybe it’s going somewhere. I plan to go to the cops anyway whether she coughs up 10,000 or not).

-On phone Wanicha says that she did take care of the finance so got Wanicha to give up a name at TISCO. Call to verify and finance was in fact filed and processed, according to this officer whose name Wanicha gave at least. This person could be Wanicha’s friend sitting on a couch somewhere who knows.

-Mentioned it to manager he calls back and supposedly verified it himself that finance is real.

(I wondered why she even bothered filing it when she was scamming me all along. Perhaps so that in case I check and it’s real I don’t get suspicious, while the truck was never coming)

-26^th Oct. I receive an image on my phone of the contract manager prepared which is supposed to be legit now. It indicates that I have already paid 5000 also explicitly showing he took off 10,000:

-On the phone says he’ll mail it “fast mail” which I assume it’s EMS. Asked how plausible his word on December really is (I’m thinking the only way he can do that is to stick me ahead of the queue but that’s his problem). He assures me and asks me to trust him. Then interestingly he volunteers that he had also caught Wanicha jumping queues for people and it’s actually the main reason why she was fired, aside from scamming.

(at this point I think once I get the contract in the mail and its real this is going somewhere. I wonder why he didn’t call the cops when he first fired her but whatever because if the contract is legit this time, I’ll get the car eventually. His word of December is better than guaranteed long 5-6 months at another dealership. If he fails on December then it’s the same as booking elsewhere anyway and still I’ll file a police report on her, and sending a letter myself to Ford co. chief at some point down the line)

-I ask the manager frankly why he didn’t call the cops in the first place when he fired her and as if pressured he volunteers that in fact she was fired not 2 months ago but 5 months ago! So I started questioning him suspiciously and basically his reasoning seems to suggest he didn’t want to upset me to much. <deleted>?!?!

(I’m thinking even before I met this dealership, he and his employees are all into this dirty business and he gets kick-backs. For wanicha scamming others, maybe she messed up and he used some excuse to get rid of her before it leads to him. Maybe the company was never called out on this because the people she scammed just simply thought it was too slow and cancelled their booking before raising any issues. That’s probably why he didn’t need to go to the police when he fired her and if he did, she would give up his name and he’d be in trouble too. Anyway, banking on the new contract that is to arrive in the mail and if it’s real, whatever this manager is up to it simply seems like he’s trying to save his own ass from getting in trouble by quietly taking care of it by fixing it right for me).

-Manager says he’s sending the contract as registered mail. I call back again to ask for the tracking number but he did not answer the call.

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Wow. All this crap for a lousy 5,000 baht?