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    Dealership Scam

    in Thailand Motor Discussion

    Posted · Edited by thaicruze

    Hi guys,

    I booked a ford ranger back in april. The contract says I get it at the lastest October. Well basically I found out that I was scammed. The saleslady wrote up a fake contract and her dealership had no record of my booking. Since April she was leading me on with a bunch of BS until I called the manager of the dealership and found out this lady had already been fired like 5 months ago. Now I'm in the process of trying to get some accountability from parties involved....whatever I can do.

    Has anybody had similar experiences? Tell me your stories. Advice/sugggestions?

    Thanks.

    You signed all these papers and paid at the dealer?

    --edit ---

    I just read "she came to your house".

    EEEHERRNNNNNN. (That's my buzzer sound)

    That's Alarm Bell #1. That's like someone calling you at home saying its your bank and they need your account details.

    If you buy a car, you go to the dealer and get a sales person there. All paper work and money is done at the dealership.

    Car License Plate Paint Poblem

    in Thailand Motor Discussion

    Posted

    Well. I would say, put up with it for now and then go order new plates.

    The plates in my Cruze are in mint condition after over a year now. So; must be something wrong when they gave them to you.

    What else can you do?

    Even my old City didn't have this problem after 6 years. I think after all those years and hitting a dog, the front one had the #2 a little bit of the paint coming off. That was about it.

    Bmw X1

    in Thailand Motor Discussion

    Posted · Edited by thaicruze

    Maybe I'm nuts. Maybe you guys are all rich and your futures are secured. You have retirement money coming in every month and you are set for the rest of your life.

    Not me. I want to know exactly where all my money is going and that I'm getting exactly or as close as possible to what I paid for. Cars in Thailand are over priced, yes, but you can get great value for money if you look at the details. The new Focus, the Pajero Sport, the D-Max. I don't think after years and years and beating them up anyone would say "I curse the day I spent 850,000 baht on this D-Max". You'll probably hear them say "Boy,AFTER 200,000 KM, 3 FLOODS, going off road, potholes everywhere, family trips, this D-Max is the best 850,000 baht I ever spent".

    Will that be replaced with "I'm a falang in Thailand. Why the hell did I spend all this money on a stupid car. The BMW badges are all falling off. the engine has a loud horrible sound. it smells like a wet dog in here from the last flood and they want to charge me 200,000 baht to fix the engine noise. dam_n the day I bought this crap".

    Bmw X1

    in Thailand Motor Discussion

    Posted · Edited by thaicruze

    See what I mean?

    Why do you have this need to belittle everyone else's choice or make out like people are fools for buying things they like?

    I have to do a fair amount of cost analysis and justification for work, and I know I can light a cigarette perfectly well with a Zippo, a Bic, or even a match, but the Dupont just felt so good in my hand I bought one. Does that make me a sucker?

    Well, it makes you a victim of marketing. laugh.png

    If someone feels disturbed with the comments of TC, in my view it is because they touch a nerve... If the persons are satisfied with their choice, they need not bother with the opinion of TC or anyone else for that matter. What is it with this need for approval from peers?wink.png

    True, TC may come across as pesky, but objectively his point is right when it comes to value for money.

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    Yes. That's the point. It's simply value for money.

    If one feels good about it, then no need to ask in a forum. Go buy it. It is as if they are wanting everyone's approval.

    I say, paying Luxury for a non-luxury product is insane. When bits start falling off and that hard plastics start making noise and stuff and the new car small goes away, I wouldn't feel good with the massive X1 payment.

    On the other hand, if you pay, say 1.5 million for a Toyota Fortuner, 1.3 for a Pajero Sport, then those cars aren't marked up 3 times their value so you are in fact getting closer "real" value to what you're paying.

    In the X1's case, you AREN'T getting what you're paying for. I thought everyone, as a rule of thumb, wants to get what they're paying for.

    Then I made the point that, because we are in Thailand and things are in fact marked up a lot, especially with BMW and Mercedes, that you're looking at spending 4+ Million on a car if you really want to get Luxury. In that case I would say, go for it.

    But then, they come back saying "don't judge me because it makes me FEEL good that Im driving in a BMW. I don't care about the cost". Fine. Then go get it. What are you doing posting here? The BMW dealer is opened right now. Good luck.

    if I didn't care about the cost of the car or my gasoline bill and I wanted a huge car then my choice would be a brand new 2012 Toyota Land Cruiser, fully loaded with TVs in the back. Overpriced? Yes, but back home the real price of a fully loaded Land Cruiser is 2.5 million. I'm paying 4.5 million for it here, but I'm getting Luxury for a Luxury price.

    I'll take that and run over your pretty X1 like a Monster Truck show.

    Look at a Land Cruiser fully loaded. Go sit inside one. Feel everything inside. THAT is what 2.5 million baht looks and feels like for a truck. Not an X1. The idea is the get as close to what you felt in there for your 2 million.

    Bmw X1

    in Thailand Motor Discussion

    Posted · Edited by thaicruze

    See what I mean?

    Yet another exhaustive effort proving you clearly have no idea what I am talking about. Your response also makes it clear your reading compression skills are questionable.

    Some people buy things because they like them, they don’t need to do an exhaustive internet study to determine what other people like or what the best value is to make a decision. I wouldn’t drive a Cruise on a bet, but you seem to be pleased with yours, and I think that’s great. Why do you have this need to belittle everyone else’s choice or make out like people are fools for buying things they like?

    I have to do a fair amount of cost analysis and justification for work, and I know I can light a cigarette perfectly well with a Zippo, a Bic, or even a match, but the Dupont just felt so good in my hand I bought one. Does that make me a sucker?

    Everything you say, you've said before, and it has nothing to do with what I'm saying.

    You want to over pay? Do it. It's your money. You want to pay that much because you like it. Fine. Do it.

    It has nothing to do with the fact that the price doesn't reflect the quality of what you are getting. We aren't arguing what you're talking about. Ultimately he will buy whatever he wants to buy.

    If he doesn't need an internet study to determine what other people like or what the best value is, then why did he open a thread in an internet forum?

    Don't ask anything. Don't open any threads. Go ahead and just buy it.

    As far as the lighter, again you are missing my point. The point I am making is, whether you think buying a BIC for a Dupont price is reasonable. That's my point.

    Bmw X1

    in Thailand Motor Discussion

    Posted

    So the X1 is trash, but what about the cheapest Benz ?

    That's the problem though. We're back at the same issue.

    You look at the cheapest Benz. The chepest BMW. There's a reason why they're the cheapest. Because they are cheap cars with the Benz or BMW badge. But in thailand you're still paying as if you were buying luxury quality. You aren't getting what you paid for.

    If I had 2 million to spend in a car I would want to squeeze out every bit of luxury and quality that 2 million could buy me.

    I would probably, because of the ridiculous prices in thailand, end up getting 2 Ford Focus Titaniums. One for me and one for the wife. Probably will get more luxury and options with one of those than with a cheap, bottom of the barrel Benz or BMW.

    Bmw X1

    in Thailand Motor Discussion

    Posted · Edited by thaicruze

    While I personally would find it difficult to pony up $60K for a car that sells for $30K in the US, I do not fault others that might want to, more power to them. I saw a guy pulling out of Terminal 21 in a red Ferrari this past Sunday, not my thing, good for him.

    The fact is, once it is legally in Thailand, it's not a $30K car, it's a $60K car, if you don't want it, don't buy it, but why this need for some people here to constantly attempt to rain on someone else's parade.

    I grew up in Southern California, and this reminds me of people moving out and living in the sticks bragging about how much more house they could afford. Of course when you start talking about the two-hour commute or the cost of fuel, they always want to change the subject. It all about location, nicer cars cost more in Thailand, if you want one, you have to spend the money.

    I get what you're saying but I disagree that just because its built here its magically now a 60-$70,000 car. It is the same $40,000 car, just marked up a lot. Same quality. The quality didn't change, just the price changed. $40,000 and $75,000 that, in the USA, gets you 2 different cars in 2 different leagues. But just because a $40,000 car is sold here for $75,000 that doesn't make it a $75,000 car.

    Sadly, I don't believe you 'get anything'.

    Do you not understand the reason vehicles in this country are expensive?

    You keep ranting about 'marked up a lot'.

    You speak total rubbish on this subject.

    Maybe you're a really nice guy, though you do have a knack of drawing and abnormal number of negative responses to your posts.

    Yeah, I love it when people say: "I know what you mean but...", and then go on to prove they have absolutely on idea what I meant. Guys like that already know everything they ever will.

    Because you said something ridiculous. You're saying that a BMW X1 is a 2+ million baht car just because it was assembled in thailand.

    I'm bit talking about the price. I'm talking about the car itself. What is the actual quality. What you're REALLY getting. And you AREN'T getting a 2 million + car. You're getting a 1 million baht car, but paying double. We're talking about the actual quality, not the price.

    If you're spending 2+ million in a car, wouldn't you want to see every bit of quality that 2+ million can buy you?

    I would. So the X1 isn't the car to buy because its not the quality you would get in a 2+ million car. Actually, a top of the line Camry Hybrid would probably come much closer to 2 million actual quality than a BMW X1.

    Some say, you pay for the badge. Ok. But then I said if you want 2 million + quality; you need to spend a lot more than that. If you want a BMW. Expect to pay 4+ million. THEN you get the quality you would expect from a luxury car with the Thailand mark up.

    If your budget is 2 million, then look elswhere. Not BMW or Mercedes.

    Bmw X1

    in Thailand Motor Discussion

    Posted · Edited by thaicruze

    While I personally would find it difficult to pony up $60K for a car that sells for $30K in the US, I do not fault others that might want to, more power to them. I saw a guy pulling out of Terminal 21 in a red Ferrari this past Sunday, not my thing, good for him.

    The fact is, once it is legally in Thailand, it's not a $30K car, it's a $60K car, if you don't want it, don't buy it, but why this need for some people here to constantly attempt to rain on someone else's parade.

    I grew up in Southern California, and this reminds me of people moving out and living in the sticks bragging about how much more house they could afford. Of course when you start talking about the two-hour commute or the cost of fuel, they always want to change the subject. It all about location, nicer cars cost more in Thailand, if you want one, you have to spend the money.

    I get what you're saying but I disagree that just because its built here its magically now a 60-$70,000 car. It is the same $40,000 car, just marked up a lot. Same quality. The quality didn't change, just the price changed. $40,000 and $75,000 that, in the USA, gets you 2 different cars in 2 different leagues. But just because a $40,000 car is sold here for $75,000 that doesn't make it a $75,000 car.

    Sadly, I don't believe you 'get anything'.

    Do you not understand the reason vehicles in this country are expensive?

    You keep ranting about 'marked up a lot'.

    You speak total rubbish on this subject.

    Maybe you're a really nice guy, though you do have a knack of drawing an abnormal number of negative responses to your posts.

    Yes. I understand WHY they're expensive. But you aren't paying $50,000 for a Honda Civic. Every car here is marked up to some degree. Some markups are acceptable, while others are completely unacceptable. Again, because it makes you buy a cheap car for a luxury car price. So in the end, You are NOT getting what you paid for. That's the real issue. it doesnt matter the reason WHY they are marked up. not sure why youre bringing that up. Why - doesnt matter. But you guys STILL don't get that, apparently.

    A civic is marked up. But you're still paying for the same caregory of car, with the markup.

    A BMW is marked up, but when you buy a bottom of the lot BMW, the cheapest BMW they sell, with the markup you're paying as if you were buying an expensive luxury car. So, you aren't getting what you're paying for.

    I've said that many times, then you come back saying that I don't understand WHY the cars are marked up. Like that has anything to do with what I just said. REGARDLESS of WHY they're marked up that doesn't invalidate what I just said.

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