Pedzie

JT..

No offence ok, you put down some dam good arguments on here! But one look at your profile page would suggest to me that you are biased towards Israel!

No offence JT, Anything said against Israel and we are all anti semitic in your eyes, read back what I said I have no problem with the people of Israel, their government like the US are the real bad guys on this planet!

A look at your profile page suggests your views on Israel maybe slightly biased ;-)

... The aims that governments are going to to install the Bank of Rothschild's as the Central Bank of Iran is simply amazing. ...

The rocks have been lifted tonight. Classic. Thanks for sharing.

Glad to have brightened up an otherwise dull and dreary day

These banksters have 1 goal, complete world domination. The creation of the undemocratic EU was the first step, next the North American Union...George W Bush did indeed sign free trade agreemenets with Canada and Mexico afterall.....Cast your mind back all them years, the EC now called the EU was founded on the same basis...free trade agreements, now look where the EU is at?? Further integration into a superstate!

Yes I' fully aware of the Israeli government being in control the US nuclear arsenal, Israel also controls or at least has access to many US government communication facilities!!

It's not the US or Israeli population we need to be scared of but the governments themselves.

Self deluded banksters took over the western world a long time ago, doesn't matter if it's Bush/Obama/Cameron, they all do what they are told and are indeed puppets..As you pointed out these are the people the world should be scared of because they hold all the cards and have the finger on the button.

The US still has a presence in the whole region. and it's not about stealing oil, maybe its about the regions stability since most the worlds oil come from the region. Even though The US has own supply from Canada and elsewhere, global oil supply needs to be protected at all cost

The pipeline that needs to build from Central Asia ' through Afganistan and Pakistan' to the reach the sea which can only be built my the Americans, they have the know how and military muscle to do. Most of the oil that will flow from this pipeline will probably end up in China. We all require oil, its everyones concern that the prices stays down for the black stuff, even if this means other invading countries for it!

Yes, the US military has a presence in the region. They have troops in Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait and the USMTM in Saudi. They do not have 25,000 in Saudi, however.

The price of oil affects the economy of the entire world, not only the US.

Indeed this is correct, the more oil that comes out of this region then the cheaper oil will be for all of us, look what happened to Gaddafi, surely you are not one of these people who thinks NATO assisted in the toppling of this despotic regime for humanitarian purposes! If Libya's true potential was realised with its vast natural resources then gasoline/petrol would become a whole lot cheaper worldwide!

The pipeline that needs to build from Central Asia ' through Afganistan and Pakistan' to the reach the sea which can only be built my the Americans, they have the know how and military muscle to do.

I wasn't aware that the USA built all the world's oil pipelines. Then we really should be getting a discount.

I never said ' all of the worlds pipelines' The pipeline that needs to be built thru this region is a massive challenge, through mountains and through countries that are in conflict. Haliburton does have the know how to do this. They say the natural oil reserves that are in Central Asia would at least match what Saudi Arabia holds. You wonder why the US has a presence in the region, surely it's not just to fight the Taliban !!

Kinda funny this, Pakistan pose a much greater threat than Iran, so what does the US do....Give the country Billions of dollars in military aid ??

Yes I agree Iran should not have nukes, back to same old question.If Israel can have then then why should not the rest of the middle east have then ??

To answer the question - because Israel is a responsible country run by adults and Iran isn't.

IF Israel has nukes, they are the model of how a country with nukes should behave. They have never threatened their neighbors with them even though they are surrounded by countries who want to push them into the sea. Saudi Arabia isn't complaining about Israeli nukes but they are worried about Iran having them - why? Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria also don't complain about Israel having nukes. None of these countries are racing to develop a nuke of their own to counter balance the dreaded Israelis. Once Iran declares it has a nuke, the race for nukes will begin. Again, WHY?

Israel the model country, the same country that blatantly defies UN resolutions on building on new settlements on OCCUPIED land!!

Maybe the North Korea should follow Israel's example and start expanding it's territory into S Korea, will the world sit by and let this happen?? So what's the difference with Israel ?

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iran having nukes would stop war with them.

You assume Iran has rational leadership. I reckon you are pro Iran. That's OK. I detest their regime and would love to see it toppled. Saudi doesn't trust Iran and thus would begin a major proliferation of such weapons in the region.

certainly not pro iran's government but certainly not pro starting a war with them either. If you are pro war you should sign up.

The question is can anything short of war stop them from getting nukes? They shouldn't have nukes. Their leadership is too nutty to have nukes. Its bad enough Pakistan has nukes.

Yes I agree Iran should not have nukes, back to same old question.If Israel can have then then why should not the rest of the middle east have then ?? Israel is 100% backed by the US! If Israel was attacked you bet the might of the US military would be at the defense of Israel!!

Israel has the means and military hardware to win any war if it's neighbours foolishly decided to attack, nuclear weapons only encourage other neighbouring states to have them, for the simple fact Israel hast them!!

The US still has a presence in the whole region. and it's not about stealing oil, maybe its about the regions stability since most the worlds oil come from the region. Even though The US has own supply from Canada and elsewhere, global oil supply needs to be protected at all cost

The pipeline that needs to build from Central Asia ' through Afganistan and Pakistan' to the reach the sea which can only be built my the Americans, they have the know how and military muscle to do. Most of the oil that will flow from this pipeline will probably end up in China. We all require oil, its everyones concern that the prices stays down for the black stuff, even if this means other invading countries for it!

Why is 25.000 US troops based in Saudi Arabia? And has been since the end of the 1st Gulf war, ...

I thought US military personnel left Saudi almost a decade ago.

So they say....The same amount of US Army personnel still have a presence in the region and are expanding!

I seriously question the 18% US oil imports to the US from the middle east! The 'oil sands project' is from Alberta ok! And it proves to costly and dirty to extract oil from this region..

Once again, it's not about US oil supply but global oil supply!

The US gets 25% of its energy supply from Canada?? May I suggest you go have a strong coffee or a cold bath! Or maybe both...

Your incorrect statements and allegations highlight what is wrong with webforums like this. People post misleading and false information and then react negatively when it is pointed out that they are wrong. You doubt that the US dependency upon Canada (and Mexico)? Then why don't you take the time to look up the numbers? Are you even aware that the US power grid is even more dependent upon Canadian hydro electricity generation? Canada is the only country that could shut down the US economy overnight if it turned off the electricity and natural gas and oil pipelines. Are you even aware that the oil fields of Saskatchewan are more important than the alberta tar sands now, or that Russia is more important than some middle east suppliers? The US never needed Afghanistan oil, nor was interested in it. China and Pakistan have the vested interest.

Ok I was wrong, I'll stand up and hold my hand up to that one!

America still has a vested interest in all the major oil regions in the world, surely you don't believe the US is in Afgan and pakistan coz of terrorism?? They are there to ensure the pipeline gets built from central Asia thru to afgan and Pakistan.

With ever increasing demand for oli, especially India and China...The flow of oil must keep flowing and at an even faster rate! We all know most of the worlds oil comes from volatile regions, the US and it's allies can be found in all these regions, for humanitarian purposes may be??

The US is the only country to keep things in check, we all know if there was a war in many parts of the world then our life is screwed!

Why is 25.000 US troops based in Saudi Arabia? And has been since the end of the 1st Gulf war, my gues is to secure the current regime there and also safegaurd the oli supplies, but after hearing some news yesterday Iran plans to block of the honiz straight, therefore blocking oil supplies to the west...

I don't agree with much of what the US does around the world but without them the world would be a hell of a more dangerous place!!

Is it possible that if NK does something brash like start a conflict with Japan or the south that the Chinese might move south in the interests of maintaining regional "peace". In effect a defacto annexation of NK. The Chinese would argue they were saving the world from nuclear war and intervening on behalf of the North Korean civilians. Who would stop the Chinese? South Korea, Japan and the USA don't have the stomach for another war.

Why even think about going to war if China decides to take over North Korea? Let 'em have it. It could only be an improvement.

China with its new status in the world should be ashamed of it's self, the dire poverty and desperation felt by the North Korean people, it has a border with China and it is the Norths only friend, China should do more to help the people of NK and should be trying to change the regime in the north, the people of NK would be very welcome in the world and I'm sure south Koreans would be more than happy to spend the money that is needed to re-built the norths infrastructure.

Probably a topic that 99% of us all agree on

If the korean peninsula was united it would probably be in the worlds top 5 economies given time, it's a shame the utterly crazy regime in north Korea hasn't been ' toppled'

So much for the claims that the USA was in afghanistan to gain the oil resources lol.

I ca't wait for the Taliban to attack the Chinese. The reaction will be interesting.

Do you honestly believe the US would be in Afganistan if there wasn't major oil resources in the region?

The oil and gas in the central landlocked Asia region has vast amounts of oil, this can only shipped out via a pipeline built through Afganistan and Pakistan, coincidence right ?

Same as Iraq, if they had no oil would America have invaded ?? Laughable....

For the umpteenth time, the USA didn't need the oil. Are you aware that the USA only obtains 18% of its oil imports from the Middle east now? The number is dropping too. The USA is dependent upon Canada its largest energy supplier. It currently is getting 25% of its oil from there and if the oil sands project expands, it could be 50%. Toss in Mexico, Nigeria, and Venezuala and the USA has one of the most robust energy supply sources in comparison to other countries like India, China and the EU that are far more dependent upon foreign energy suppliers. ​ BTW, are you aware that Russia provides more oil to the USA than Kuwait and Oman combined?

I seriously question the 18% US oil imports to the US from the middle east! The 'oil sands project' is from Alberta ok! And it proves to costly and dirty to extract oil from this region..

Once again, it's not about US oil supply but global oil supply!

The US gets 25% of its energy supply from Canada?? May I suggest you go have a strong coffee or a cold bath! Or maybe both...

It's not about who grabs the oil !

The most important thing is that new oil resources reach the market !! This is why the US/NATO has invaded Iraq/Afaganistan, and also helped Libya get rid of Gaddafi. Supply n demand really, we all hate paying higher prices at the pumps for petrol!! It doesn't matter if you are Chinese or American, the more oil that is on the market then the cheaper it will be...

It just so happens that the US/NATO have the will and firepower to achieve such goals!

Libya...is sitting on an ocean of sweet crude oil ( the best kind of oil)....Now, why did US/NATO not intervene in Egypt or Tunisia during the Arab uprisings?? You may find that they don't have as much natural resources...

What do you mean Koheesti?

So much for the claims that the USA was in afghanistan to gain the oil resources lol.

I ca't wait for the Taliban to attack the Chinese. The reaction will be interesting.

Do you honestly believe the US would be in Afganistan if there wasn't major oil resources in the region?

The oil and gas in the central landlocked Asia region has vast amounts of oil, this can only shipped out via a pipeline built through Afganistan and Pakistan, coincidence right ?

Same as Iraq, if they had no oil would America have invaded ?? Laughable....

Iraq will probably slowly descend into civil war now that the US has left.

I have a funny feeling the UK may follow suit with a virtual embassy, the Uk Gov just recently closed It's Tehran embassy and told all Iranian diplomats to leave the UK Iranian embassy due to anti UK protests in Tehran.

Islamic radicals have made it very plain that they have no problem killing their fellow Muslims in large numbers. It is only a big deal if someone else does it.

The Iranian leadership are looking to bring forth the 12th Mahdi, chaos and the end of the world and a nuke would do nothing to hurt their cause.

Utter bull Ulysses...

Iran with a proud 3000 year old history willing to wipe itself out for the sake of hitting Israel once?

A step in the right direction I suppose.

Why believe the photos are real?

I doubt the photos are real, even if they are the Iranians plan to reverse engineer the drone? I seriously doubt they have the capabilities to do so, more like Iran would get told by Russia to send them the captured drone. Just like what Serbia did when they shot down a US stealth bomber during the Kosovo war, the bomber was shipped to Russia for examination.

Stinks of Iranian propaganda

Though I do wish one day that Bush and Blair etc would face an international court to test the veracity of their claims on the reasons to go to war. It won't happen I know, but one can still have hope.

Considering the effectiveness of the international court, good luck with getting Bush and Blair there. What about Pol Pot? Darfur? Far worse crimes than what these two have done. And no justice yet.

Aren't some ex Khmer rouge guys getting tried right now at the international court? I'm sure I heard something about it on the radio the other week.

Yes very unlikely Bush or Blair will face trial, Blair even has the cheek to become MIDDLE EAST PEACE ENVOY

...also Russia and China are co-operating with each other on military issues, doing joint ventures etc. Why? To counter the US.

"etc" meaning Russia and China's support of Iran and North Korea. Being basically dictatorships, the Russians don't care if the aid they give Iran makes it way to Chechnya and is used against Moscow, or the Chinese don't care that they border North Korea so if nukes starts flying about they are in for a little fallout. For two countries famous for their chess-like long-term foreign policy, they are willing to make risky decisions in the short term just to counter the US.

BTW - The Philippines and Vietnam want closer ties with the USA (not the other way around) to counter China's claims to the oil in the South China Sea.

Russia-China have much in common, both countries are being encircled by NATO/US.

I'm sure Moscow would be very concerned if weapons it supplied to Iran ended up being used to attack Russia!! Anyway I doubt very much this is the case, Iranian weapons are being used fighting NATO forces in Afganistan!