fourbaht

Sorry

You are right should have had I don't give a rats arse option, Can I or a mod add one?

Fourbaths

Mobi

I know there is a large topic on this and I am not atempting to discuss it again, (as I said in my original post) I live in Pattaya and I wanted the views of other people in Pattaya. If any one is Samui etc wants views of their locals they can do the same.

It's the poll im more interested in to see how people react to what is probably a bigger problem for people in Pattaya than most other places.. border run city..

Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed? or has the missus cut you off the horizontal jogging

Sorry fourbaht, I take it back.

Maybe it's agood idea to look at the Pattaya prospective on this.

The wife's away, and I'm hung over What's your excuse?

What's with this awayfoe guy? Hope he isn't a visa running English teacher

Well you must be keeping Pattaya pretty clean with the FOUR BATHS (sic) he says you have.

Excellent Mobi.. I have no excuse except I like taking trhe wee out of people sometimes.. No hard feelings and my post to you was light hearted. We have met remember so I know you are a grumpy old git all the time .. Just kidding

With all due respect there is an 18 page thread - and growing every minute, in the press clippings forum. There seems little point in repeating all that stuff again here - but up to you

I would also think that places like Phuket, Koh Samui, etc will also have be badly affected by this new ruling.

Mobi

I know there is a large topic on this and I am not atempting to discuss it again, (as I said in my original post) I live in Pattaya and I wanted the views of other people in Pattaya. If any one is Samui etc wants views of their locals they can do the same.

It's the poll im more interested in to see how people react to what is probably a bigger problem for people in Pattaya than most other places.. border run city..

Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed? or has the missus cut you off the horizontal jogging

Edited by Scouse.

The only real news article I have seen is the one in the Nation which refers to VOA. The Visa On Arrival is different from the 30 day Tourist Permit. Understand the difference between VOA and Permit? The Visa on Arrival facility is going to be limited. I haven't seen anything from any news source that says the 30 day permits will be disallowed. I think some people are blowing this out of proportion.

Read post #1 in this thread.

Which article in The Nation are you referring to?

George

I cant see anything in the original posts that affects those that have either embassy issued tourist visa's or O or B visa's.

Can any one clarify this is it just VOA 30 day back to backs that are affected or not.?

I know this is being discussed elsewhere but as it affects Pattaya probably more than most cities I just wondered what every ones views were on how the new regulations affect the city we call home.

I saw one cleaning the stage in Living Dolls 2 the other night, I don't think she has a very good memory tho as she had forgotten her to put her panties on...

If you are married here then you can get a marriage visa, I know its not the same as residency and I know it costs, but your wife will not get residency in your home country I am sure unless you can prove you have funds to support her initially?

Yes, but those funds would be amounts that are within reason (for the country). There is something wrong with a system that will only allow people to stay that can prove they will make 10-20 times more than the average wage. And, should my wife go the UK she will have rights.

Although this doesn't affect me, I'm concerned at what other (de-ranged) rule changes will come in after this.

I want to get a mortgage and buy a house - but with the current climate I feel that it is not a wise thing to do.

I am not denying that some things are hard here, however this new change is not related to marriage or investing here. In my 10 years here my gut feeling is that if you do things the way they are supposed to be then you should not worry about investing.

I know often the way things are done and the requiremments seem way overboard but for me the other things that living in Thailand has to offer way out number the small inconvienence of adhereing to the rules and Thai ways.

Personally I'd much rather be here doing what I am doing (legally and with all the red tape) than I would back in the UK with the problems and BS there.

As another poster said try getting multiple tourist visa's month on month year on year if you are a Thai national in your home country.

I think that you'll find that in most Western countries being married to someone from that country actually counts for something and would make you eligible for residency.

If you read the context of my post I was not refering to marriage in your home country, my post was just stating that this will affect the people who abuse the current loop holes.

If you are married here then you can get a marriage visa, I know its not the same as residency and I know it costs, but your wife will not get residency in your home country I am sure unless you can prove you have funds to support her initially?

All I am saying is if you are not exploiting the current system then I would think you have not a great deal to worry about, if you are start worrying or looking at ways to get legal.. There are lots of them and there is one for most set of circumstances..

I think you will find that this will affect the non genuine tourists, ie visa runners who do 12 runs a year.

Thai immigration officials will be given a certain amount leeway on how to interpret this.

The genuine tourists who leave and go HOME (and spent more than 2000 baht to get in and out of the country) and then come back after a reasonable length of time will be allowed more than 3, 1 month stays in a year.

I would imagine the same will go for the month on month off oil workers who have shown that they have left and gone back to work and then are genuine tourists again.

So all you teachers without work permits and you ebayers sitting in internet cafes working illegally should start worrying as you are the ones they are after.

You guys who leave for 10 minutes every 30 days are not really on the right visa, and there are alternatives such as an O visa where you leave every 90 days and will in effect last you 15 months if you plan your trips correctly. Work Permit if you are carrying on a genuine business, a retirement Visa or a marriage visa if you are married.

The fact is if you can’t afford one of these then you really can't afford to be here.

As another poster said try getting multiple tourist visa's month on month year on year if you are a Thai national in your home country.

This has been on the cards for a while and I think if it is implemented properly it is a good thing.

Illegals pay no tax or national insurance, yes I know you all support the whole village but you should be doing it legally on the right visa.

Why anyone surprised at this I am baffled, my only surprise is is they have let it slip for the last 20 years.

Have you ever noticed how when you help some one for years and years and then stop you are suddenly a b@stard for stopping not a great guy for helping for the past years?

I think the fastets you will get for mobile internet is Hutch at present about 130k, Edge is in development here still as far as I can make out and is planned for early next year

He was happy to admit to the attack and claimed that the victim had persistently demanded money from the alleged attacker on many occasions.

Can't say that I blame him.

I hope that one day you find your self in need and receive the same compassion. You really are a <deleted>

Monty is correct.. Even TOT and CAT will tell you that their international bandwith is not enough to support this type of high speed connection at present.

I have changed from Cyber Gold as after talking to one of the managers I was informed that the problem was that the Pacific internet connection to the outside world had used its bandwidth quota for the month..

True or not I am not sure but Cyber Silver gave me faster speeds as it does not use Pacific for its international connection.

Is the moral of the story , do not marry bar girls ?

<deleted>.. where did you find your princess mr MGID.. and why does she stay with you as you are obviously an idiot

www.siammailboxes.com this guy has opened up in soi Buhkow

I think I know her clone sister "Dolly"

I know you didnt mention it, but i know what you were thinking.

You could be a millionaire donz, not only can you see the future but you also know what every one else thinks before they do.

Post her picture for us old guys to drool over.

what I did is a different topic

Where is the topic I could do with a laugh.. Also looking forward to a new thread in a few years.. "Old guy gave my wife a meat injection"

PS you are the one mentioning Money I never assumed that she or any Thai girl would do it just for the cash.

If I need to explain it for you then you really are in trouble.. what makes you think your girl is different, why won't the old ones have a chance

Stay away from Samsung, I have 2 17" flat screens under warranty in for repair, they have had them 3 months already and are still waiting for parts.. quicker to mine the silicon and manufacture the parts at home.

My Girl Is Different

Well i am marrying a Thai stunner in a few months, she turns heads all over the place in Oz. I just hate it when the oldies think they have a chance with her.

MGID LOL Donz You da Man

Tammi

You are in Thailand dear.. thats the way it is here if you feel it is inappropriate then dont let them sell it for you, you have been advised by many long standing residents that it is common practice and nothing to be worried about, however you seem to be concerned more about the staff not doing their jobs properly.

Are you sure you are actually selling or miffed because some one else is and using staff that you feel should be giving you more TLC?

Relax, remember where you are and why you came here in the first place..

I am sure the block won't fall down if one of the cleaners make a few phone calls when they should be polishing your brass knobs.

Here Ya Go

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=81149

That makes a change, normally it's dug up by half wits who don't know what they're doing

Or by some local officials brother who has a contract to dig it up and forget about it

Having spent the last 2 hours reading all of these posts I have to say yes it is a shame, but its human nature.

however if you look at the big picture, its called progress, I am not saying its necessarily good or bad for that matter, however it is here, it has been here since the species known as man first inhabited this planet and it sure wont go away until we decide to leave.

This is not a Thailand phenomenon or ever a new situation, Good? Bad? who knows the fact is it is human nature, mass communication and mass transport have made the spread of greed much faster in the last decade and its only going to get faster.

Through out mans history there are always people who are left by the wayside.. Casualties of progress, how do you stop it and if you do will someone else suffer because you did, everything has a knock on effect. (developer can’t buy land, doesn’t invest in a local hospital children die as a result, hypothetical yes but it shows that you have to think very carefully before starting or stopping forward movement)

SBK your principals are honorable however will have very little impact on the future of Samui, that said don't stop what you are doing, if it makes even one persons life better then it is worthwhile.

You can't halt time, I wish you could as I would still have hair, but you know people are very resilient as is the environment, we will never kill this planet, we may however just make it uninhabitable for us to live on, maybe that’s a good thing. Defeatist attitude? I prefer realist thanks.