FracturedRabbit

We have the same. It is an annual tax on your company. I have no idea how they calculate it; just turn up and pay! You do get a proper receipt.

Houses owned in a Thai name don't have to pay.

I am starting a poll to guess on which page of this thread WaveHunter and Robblok will agree on something. Place your bets!

Is your house owned by a company?


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5 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

From Wikipedia:
 

Health effects. Ginger ale, as with other ginger products and other non-ginger-flavored carbonated beverages, is often recommended as a home remedy for indigestion and motion sickness. It is also used to soothe coughs and sore throats. Ginger ale is usually acceptable for people on a clear liquid diet.

Variants: Golden ginger ale and dry ginger ale.

Type: Non-alcoholic mixed drink

Ginger ale - Wikipedia

The OP asked for low sugar recommendations. Canada Dry Ginger Ale: 11 teaspoons of added sugars

7 minutes ago, essox essox said:

TONIC WATER it contains quinine !!!!

It also contains sugar

18 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said:

I focus on calories not carbs using the "FatSecret" App but its measurements for that diet yesterday were "40.95 Fat; 85.31 Carbs; 37.34 Protein; 803 calories". The Blood Sugar Diet recommendation is 800 calories and a full fat rather than reduced fat dairy diet. Interestingly almost half my carbs come from the muesli (with dates, raisins & almonds) which is only 1/2 cup.  Being a completely lazy person with zero interest in cooking food I can't stir myself to find a substitute that requires as little effort as muesli. Scrambled eggs would give be a much better carbs outcome but frankly ...

 

I'm not sure where you buy your crackers but my water crackers contain 4/5 of 5/8 of SFA sugar, protein, fat or carbs

Focusing on calories will not resolve your diabetes. 500 calories of cake and is processed completely differently by your body compared to, say, 500 calories of avocado. Good luck to you.

I don't buy crackers but here is the breakdown for Carr's.

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

And it still works for him, proof that all diets work. The most important thing of a diet is not if its the most efficient its if the person can keep it up indefinitely or finds it too restrictive and gives up.

 

That is my opinion anyway.

If you are so insulin resistant that you need to supplement with insulin, then you have a serious problem which needs serious action.  Maybe committing to even more carb restriction until his metabolism is fixed would  be sensible?

1 hour ago, ThaiBunny said:

I follow Michael Mosley's Blood Sugar Diet (loosely) and I've lost 12 kilos in 12 weeks. Breakfast - a small amount of muesli and full cream milk, standard latte coffee; lunch - some sort of chopped fruit from the roadside vendor (usually papaya or canteloupe) and three scoops of plain Greek yoghurt, standard latte coffee; snack - peanut butter and crackers, lemon and ginger tea; dinner - half a chicken breast or equivalent plus some of tomato, cucumber, bok choy, carrot etc. My blood sugars have dived (now at a prediabetic stage rather than diabetic) and I'm on roughly 40% of the insulin I was on before I started.  Exercise ... hmmm.  If I get to 10,000 steps by wandering around the neighbourhood that's a good day

Good you are making progress, but still seems like you are still eating a load of carbs/sugar (muesli, milk, fruit, peanut butter, crackers). 

You can buy them on Lazada.
They were originally conceived for use by diabetics, their utility and accuracy are contested. The presence of ketones, whether you are in ketosis or not, varies throughout the day and throughout the week. Maybe you can find one of the ketometers that are now on the market, I believe they measure other biometrics at the same time.

I’m back on Keto and know how to do it and if I stick to it the weight just falls off and I feel great.
 
the only problem is that im bored to tears, absolutely cheesed off! I love going out and having a few drinks and socialising or finding a new nice little bar and having thai snacks, but I can’t do that and lose weight at the same time.
 
what do you do with yourselves of an evening when on Keto?

Great numbers!
I wouldn’t worry to much about LDL, it is doing its job transporting the trigs around your system.
My LDL is higher than yours, HDL is 94, trigs 58. The trig/hdl ratio is the key determinant of metabolic health, and yours is excellent.
Dave Feldman is doing a lot of work on LDL, he has a Facebook group LMHR (lean mass hyper responders) for athletic people with high LDL, the cholesterol code website and a load of stuff on YouTube. Convinced me that I was not going to worry about a high LDL score.


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Looks a teeny bit high

18 minutes ago, tutsiwarrior said:

 

I check BP usually to see how it's responding to the medication about 4 x per week...if I can keep things below 150/80 I reckon that I'm doing OK...I'm 68 y.o. and have been a type 2 diabetic for about 20 years...I've read that ye can't expect to maintain 120/70 when yer older...

 

 

Why not? I'm 70 and 1120/80 according to my Omron.

Fractured Rabbit is correct IMO.  There is still an active camp of believers in the idea that that dietary fat and stored body fat are the same thing (i.e.: you are what you eat).  That line of reasoning is simply nonsense and based on archaic, unfounded logic, not science! 
 
That silly sort of intuitive logic is what led to the "fat free" craze of the 1980's with the processed food industry coming out with so many "fat-free" products that's it's almost impossible to find products on supermarket shelves these days that is not fat-free.
 
Well, if fat-free is so good then how do you account for the fact that the epidemic rise in Diabetes type 2 coincides with the same time frame that the whole world went fat-free crazy?
 
I'll tell you why; it is because when you take all the fat out of a food product is becomes basically unpalatable, so SUGAR must be added to restore flavor. 
 
Sugar, in the form of high-fructose corn syrup is dirt cheap to prooduce artificially , and much cheaper than natural foods containing natural fats.  So, essentially EVERY product sold on supermarket shelves that is labelled "fat free" contain massive amounts of "hidden" sugar. 
 
That's a dirty little secret that the processed food industry would rather you not know.  That's why, if you look at the list of ingredients in a fat-free food product, you'll rarely see "sugar" listed, but rather the various different types of sugar components listed instead with chemical names that make it hard to even identify as sugar, and by breaking it down into components, it seems there is far less "sugar" than there really is!  But rest assured, fat-free products contain MASSIVE amounts of sugar!
 
It is SUGAR, NOT FAT that insulin responds to.  Insulin tells the body whether to use energy or store it.  If the energy exceeds what the body needs, it will be store as fat.  As long as insulin remains high, the body can only store excess fat; it can not access it.  This is basic metabolic science, and not open to debate.  IT IS FACT>
 
This is how the body reacts to sugar vs fat:

As you can see, Carbohydrates cause a massive spike in blood sugar, whereas fats elicit almost no blood sugar response.
 
If you consume sugars or carbohydrates, especially in a highly refined form like white sugar or high fructose corn syrup, blood sugars will spike quickly and drops quickly.  So not long after that sugary snack, you are left hungry, unsatisfied and craving more sugar.  Sugar is a fast energy source intended to hit the blood stream quick and be used up quickly.
 
Conversely, if you consume fats, the blood sugar response is quite slow to rise, has a much broader peak and ultimately takes longer time to return to baseline.  This means that it is taking the body more time to process the food and thus you stay satiated longer.  Fat is a long term energy source meant to be burned for sustained periods of time.  The response to proteins is somewhere between the two.
 
When blood sugars spike quickly, as they do with carbohydrates, the body then reacts by pumping out lots of insulin. This is what leads to a dramatic and quick drop in blood sugar. Often the quantity of insulin released overshoots the need, so blood sugar then falls to below optimal levels, eliciting a hunger response to consume more sugar, and so a vicious feedback loop is created in which more carbs are eaten, and more insulin is produced in ever-increasing amounts over time!
 
Here is how insulin responds to increased blood sugar:

 
Over time, the body's response to insulin signals start to get blunted, just like an alcoholic or drug abuser becomes habituated to their drug and they need more to get the same response.  Excessive carbs lead to more and more insulin being required to get the same response.  It becomes a slippery slope as the body becomes more and more resistant to insulin signals. 
 
As a result, more and more carb energy becomes stored as fat, and since insulin's signaling becomes impaired, that fat STAYS stored.  It's not the fat you see on your body that's the problem; it's the fat in your liver that causes the real issues.  The end result is DIABETES TYPE 2!
 
There is lots that's not understood about metabolic syndromes such as Diabetes, but the basic mechanisms of sugar metabolism vs fat metabolism and their effect on insulin are essentially undebatable in light of research that's been conducted over the past decade.
 
You can believe what you wish, but science is on the side of dietary sugars being the culprit, not dietary fats.  In other words, excessive carbs will make you fat and sick; natural fats will allow you to remain lean and healthy!
 
Do your research from SCIENCE-BASED SOURCES like PubMed, not guru websites!
 

1 hour ago, TravelerEastWest said:

Plenty of proof to study that meat and dairy is bad for you both new and old but more importantly, the trend is away from meat.

 

lots of old and new information out there just mentioning some areas to start. Dr Esselstyn is someone with a solid background - are you saying he is making up his research and medical results?

 

Plant-based proteins are fine you don't need to eat all your amino acids at one time - lots of solid research for this.

 

A vegan whole plant based diet (not a vegan junk food diet) is often deficient in Vitamin B-12 true and occasionally a few other things so simply supplementing is a good idea.

 

I am not commenting on your personal diet etc only general ideas for those who are not aware of the truth...

 

Perhaps the most recent and best research for fat causing diabetes is by Dr Roy Newcastle in the UK:

https://www.ncl.ac.uk/research/impact/casestudies/diabetes/

 

"Type 2 diabetes has long been regarded as a chronic disease and one with a complex, obscure cause. However, research by Newcastle University’s Professor Roy Taylor using innovative magnetic resonance methods has confirmed his Twin Cycle Hypothesis – that Type 2 diabetes is simply caused by excess fat within the liver and pancreas. In the liver, this fat causes a poor response to insulin and it produces too much glucose. In the pancreas, the fat inhibits insulin secretion. By clearly defining the cause of the disease, treatment can be planned to reverse the processes."

 

Note he is not a vegetarian and seems to be focusing on a low calorie diet to remove fat.

 

My point is for diabetes fat will harm and kill you.

 

More and more this is becoming clear. 

 

You are becoming annoying. As someone else has mentioned, you are confusing fat in the diet with fat in the body; they are not the same; and fat in the body does not arise from eating fat.

Fatty liver disease is indeed linked with diabetes, although the assumption is that fatty liver is caused by insulin resistance/diabetes, and not that the fatty liver comes first and then causes diabetes; although no doubt restricting liver function doesn't help the problem. Either way, someone with non-alcoholic fatty liver will probably be insulin resistance (unless there is another cause such as Hep C).

Suggest you learn a little about human physiology.

1 hour ago, TravelerEastWest said:

Again plant-based diets are clearly best based on the best and most complete research trends.

 

I use the word trends as there is conflicting research out there and a lot of the research is confusing and incomplete.

 

Even good researchers make mistakes as an example I like Dr. Gregor but he seems to on occasion make mistakes such as with his support for nuts which are high fat and not so good for your heart. I guess he is trying to read with the help of his team huge amounts of data and occasionally he misses key points - sad but true - or so it seems.

 

Insulin resistance is caused by excess fat which then means you can't handle high carbs. Saying carbs is the problem is a short-sighted point of view - not wrong but not the complete picture...

 

Processed carbs are very bad for you.

 

Whole plant based carbs are good for your overall health and over time your insulin resistance will go down based on the best-unbiased research and from my personal experience. (anecdotal I understand...) Note if you have diabetes a whole plant-based diet is not a free ticket to unlimited carbs - you need balance and exercise.

 

The key point the low carb people miss is that long term high fat will kill you - full stop. Also short term your weight will tend to go down glucose tends to go down etc - no argument, but long term not so good.

 

I am not here to argue with die-hard meat and low carb folks - only to point out that there are alternate views supported by good research - for those who are new to this discussion. keep in mind a lot of the research that supports meat eating is funded by - guess who... even nut eating is often funded by the nut industry, NIH research is perhaps the best in terms of pure science and being unbiased - or so I am told.

 

I am also not going to argue that animal cruelty is an issue - although I personally feel that it is - but with a few exceptions, almost everyone I know likes meat and is probably not going to stop eating it. So it is a mute point...

 

For the sports and bodybuilders out there please note there is no need to eat meat to build muscle - there are very good bodybuilders and athletes who are vegetarian - but there are not so many which is why people don't know about them.

 

As for everyone is different to a certain extent this is clearly true but some general constants are also true.

"Insulin resistance is caused by excess fat". Sorry, this is completely untrue.
When glucose arrives in the bloodstream, insulin is released by the pancreas to direct the glucose to muscle and fat cells. Glucose comes from carbohydrates/sugar. An intake of protein also requires insulin for metabolism, but to a lesser extent and with limited effect on blood sugar. An intake of fat requires minimal insulin and has no effect on blood sugar. Insulin resistance occurs when the system is consistently overloaded with demands for insulin leading to a rise in blood sugar levels. Fat intake has absolutely nothing to do with this.
Here's some reading for you, published by NIH: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1204764/

Please share your best research that counters current medical science by proving that insulin resistance is caused by excess fat. I would like to read this because my diet is mainly fat (including, horror!, nuts) and my metabolism is healthy with very low HbA1C; so I am obviously a medical freak!

"he key point the low carb people miss is that long term high fat will kill you". Yeah, we are all stupid.

Nothing wrong with plant based/ vegetarian/vegan diets if that is what people want to eat; but to claim they are the best for our health infers that somehow we have evolved over the last few tens of thousands of years from being carnivores to herbivores. 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/06/170607133246.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/02/190219111704.htm

The actual process by which plaque builds up in the artery does indeed seem to be still not fully understood, but one of the conditions that facilitates it is insulin resistance; which is why diabetics have a greatly increased risk of contracting heart disease (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3610922/).

I switched to a plant based vegetarian diet some seven years ago in the belief it was more healthy. Unfortunately I assumed that I could consume vast quantities of fruit as part of this diet, mainly taken as smoothies to maximise the glycemic load. Plus loads of bread and rice and "healthy" breakfast cereal. Five years later I discovered I was pre-diabetic and had heart disease.  My approach to counter this has not been to consume more carbs...

2 hours ago, TravelerEastWest said:

"Though if your pre diabetic you should really go keto as then it would be a big plus."

 

Not true at all, the best research shows that a high carb whole plant diet is best for chronic diseases such as heart disease and diabetes.

 

Read Dr Gregor, Dr Ornish and so on... the trend is clear.

 

Normally those who love meat and those who sell meat disagree...

 

 

Diabetes (and heart disease, and other modern chronic diseases) are caused by the metabolism becoming insulin resistant. Insulin resistance is caused by the excessive and prolonged intake of carbohydrates. Plant based carbohydrates may be less damaging than processed crap; but they still trigger insulin. Suggesting a high carb diet (whatever the source) for diabetics is dangerous.

The world has an epidemic of diabetes, caused by a modern diet high in sugar, bread, grains, rice, fruit, and carby junk. More than 25%of hospital beds in the UK are occupied by diabetics. 88% of American adults are metabolically unhealthy. Shoveling down more carbs, whatever the source, ain't going to fix it.

48 minutes ago, Saltire said:

Lots of good (and some bad!) advice here. I have been a big fan of keto for 2 years now.

 

I was diagnosed Type 2 diabetic 10 years ago but did not take it seriously as i had no symptoms - until 3 years ago. By then I was 95 Kg (at 170 cm tall) = obese. Then I got tingling in my left foot (neuropathy) and had been put on statins and metformin. 

 

Since starting keto I am down 20 Kg, walk 4/5 miles a day, came off the meds and feel better than I have in a long time. My morning readings are stable, and I know what I can't eat (fruit for 1). I can't shift the neuropathy which means I have to take extra care of my feet now. I have since realised I am for real a sugar addict. I have no cravings for carbohydrate but always had a sweet tooth. Fighting that is the same as alcoholism, one day at a time avoiding chocolate, ice cream etc. I still have the occasional Chang but will never return to drinking 50 cent beers in vast quantities like I did when i lived the previous 5 years in Cambodia. Gin and tonic for me nowadays.

 

Eating out can be a challenge but there's nothing I really miss. Besides there are no western restaurants in a 3 hour radius so not such a problem, as I cook every meal keto by myself. Thai restaurants just pile in the sugar. The highest by far reading I have had was after a Pad Thai. Off the scale.

 

Good luck and for reference check these out. They have helped me immensely.

 

www.dietdoctor.com and www.diabetes.co.uk

 

Congratulations!
The web is awash with stories like yours; people who have put their diabetes into remission and discontinued their meds by going low carb/keto. I hope some of the diabetics and pre-diabetics on this forum can do what you have done.

24 minutes ago, DavisH said:

Read up on the palaeo diet here: https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/paleo-diet/art-20111182

Just go easy on foods with high saturated fats. Eat more fish than red meat. 

Nothing wrong with saturated fat (cheeeeese!) or red meat as part of a real food diet. 

Or of course you can just buy apple cider vinegar and drink that. Otherwise, iHerb for all the many things you can't get in Thailand.