johnnycthedog

Some men will never learn....The definition of bigamy is having one too many wives. A wise man knows that monogamy is exactly the same.

Not always. A lot of the women in Islam are like trained pets. Islam is a religion of male superiority and many of the women thrive on it.

It bothers me here in Chiang Mai to see a Muslim women dressed head to toes in black while the temperature is in the high thirties around 100 degrees Fahrenheit and the man is dressed in shorts and a white shirt walking down the street with the wife following him.

Agree. I'd like to express my opinion on this matter but that would only show my prejudices which for political correctness reasons we are not meant to have.

Thailand has a tendency to repeat mistakes. If they are not careful, a George Soros or someone similar will rape Thailand again leaving it in shambles.

I don't know that one. What is the George Soros story?

I have to wonder how they found out. It's such a closely guarded secret what goes on there. Wow, Pattaya police are good!

...and no mention of the fourth floor where pirated music, games and software are sold.

Please don't close trading on the the fourth floor. I buy things from there.

A 2000 baht sin sod is more like it, she didnt even have any kids or had been married before.

What a genius you are.

I think someone is stirring the pot with his comment. As in a joke.

Does anyone have actual statistics of balcony 'mishaps' in Thailand. That would be hugely interesting. Or is this just another 'hub'. Way too many to be a co-incidence. Remind me never to live above the ground floor if with a Thai girlfriend.

We might be OK on the second or third floor which covers a lot of medium to cheap prices hotels. I never go near the window nor open the sliding door if staying in anything above 3 stories. Too scared of heights. Those high rise condos in Jontiem just scare the bejesus out of me - and that's only from the outside.

But the posters are right. Large numbers coming to grief for a variety of reasons from high rise condos.

Why do you live in Thailand if things that have been done for centuries, so revolt/concern/challenge you and your sensibilities?

Considered opinion quote-

I think it quite important that if I use words you find hard to get your mind around, you ask what I meant rather than put your own spin on what I said. I neither said that, nor did I intend what I did say, to be taken to mean that. The fact is, that my partially argued point was discovered to be moot, because I had forgotten where I was in terms of the debate.

When I come here I expect a lower order of response and am rarely if ever disappointed.

At no stage did I question Thaibreakers right to an opinion, I merely questioned the opinion. Often, we call this thing "debating". It is a new and fun thing. You should try it some time.

My point, for the challenged, was about trying to change a system that has been there for donkey's, based on your/his/western judgement of it's overall level of "goodness" in terms of the impact it has on the life of the Thai people.

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There are a number of insulting sentences here that would insult most TV posters if aimed at them. I'd guess in Thailand you'd call it the hi-so approach to the masses. In the Western society I'd call it an air of disdain in your comments.

How come he wasn't charged with the rape of a minor?

JemJem - if you like reading as you say I reckon the answer is to join other forums apart from TV such as Pattaya Addicts & similar. Lots of fact & fiction to read. Read all the articles, make some comments, and you'll be too busy to go out drinking. Some danger though of the articles driving you back to drink. 555

Seriously though I believe one of the hardest things to do in Thailand is NOT drink. I'd guess many a social drinker (back home) has turned into a serious drinker in tropical Thailand.

Thanks for the info/suggestion.

Well, yeah, there is actually always a lot to read; both books and also lots of stuff online.

I feel very confident now about quitting drinking because the main factor for me is 'health' and, recently, every time I drink a lot, I can feel my body suffering more and more. I just hope my quitting has't come too late. Oh, well, there is nothing I can do now about the possible bad effects of my past drinking.

Quit drinking & you'll probably lose weight as well - as long as you're not a soft drink fan. So it could be a win-win situation. It's probably like smoking - give up and the body slowly repairs itself. Unless of course you're in the final stages of something and then it too late for anything.

I could never give up social drinking so I wish you luck in your quest. [my doctors already had a go at me to slow down]

JemJem - if you like reading as you say I reckon the answer is to join other forums apart from TV such as Pattaya Addicts & similar. Lots of fact & fiction to read. Read all the articles, make some comments, and you'll be too busy to go out drinking. Some danger though of the articles driving you back to drink. 555

Seriously though I believe one of the hardest things to do in Thailand is NOT drink. I'd guess many a social drinker (back home) has turned into a serious drinker in tropical Thailand.

Has anyone ever seen a bus in Thailand going less than 110-120 km/h? Or a bus driving in the left (inner) lane for that matter?

Amen! I was driving back from Ko Lanta to Phuket one time, travelling at about 110kph. A bus passed us heading for Phuket. Although I knew the way I said to my wife we'll just follow the bus. Wrong. Within one kilometre the bus had shot off down the highway out of sight. The road was straight and I guess it must have been doing at least 130 - 140 kph. maybe more.

There are two solutions to this. Neither will be done. Perhaps they are "pie in the sky" ideas.

1. Adopt a complete footing of war against these terrorists. Shoot on sight policy along with complete border protection and massive intelligence/inflitration/education program. And be prepared to stay like that for as many years as it takes.

2. Sell the restive southern provinces back to Malaya. They belonged to them over 100 years ago anyway. Use the money to relocate all Buddists Thais who wish to move away and adopt point 1 if the Muslim terrorists want to take it any further beyond the new border.

As I have posted before don't be surprised if there's a terrorist attack in Phuket or similiar tourist area in the next 5 years. Scaring away tourist money is one of the best forms of terrorism leverage.

Easy. If he wants to play up he goes to a cheap short time room has his ST fun and goes home. No assets or possessions in the room. No come back from the reception staff. No cups for coffee etc etc. At 69 you'd think he would know how to cover his tracks. As I see it his only (and Major) problem was to try and save on the cost of a cheap hotel by going back to his own digs. Something he has paid big time for his mistake and when his wife returns it's another round of bruising encounters for him.

This topic has been a fascinating read with lots of positive comments and suggestions. There's been minimal agro' and no religious claptrap. And it's been educational too. I'm sure someone will benefit from these discussions when their own marriage situation to a Thai girl arises.

Just so lucky that no one was hurt in this accident. Very rare occurance indeed. Normally some poor innocent person is hurt or killed through no fault of their own.

There was a naked Thai woman in the elevator in my building one evening a few months ago. She didn't seem to be crazy though and she said "Good night" in English when she got out at her floor. Very odd.

So have you been riding up & down your lift at night since hoping for a repeat?

Thai Courts like to use the term "justifiable homicide". Apart from the shock and agony of having one's penis cut off, I think choking the wife to death would be viewed within those terms.

The Golden Retreivors in Thailand must be different to those in Oz. I own a GR and they are the most gentle and loving breed you will find. It might cuddle you to death. Mine does not bark ever and is so kind and loving, never aggresive. Whereas every Rottweiller I've seen is fairly aggresive. Maybe it's how dogs in general are treated in Thailand.

We all know the answers to the question raised.

So, why not share your wisdom.

its not hard, it just takes time and effort.

When i think of the time and effort i needed to exert back home and the time and effort it took me here in Thailand, I dont know how anyone says its hard to find a "good girl" in Thailand.

Its difficult to find a "good girl" in a red light district

Its difficult to find a good girl at a pub

Its difficult to find a good girl who will let you sleep with her on the first date

Its difficult to find a good girl when your always drunk

Its difficult to find a good girl if you haven't washed your close in a month

Its difficult to find a good girl if you smoke like a chimney

Its difficult to find a good girl if you have no interest in her culture

Its difficult to find a good girl if the girl must be no more than half your age

I think poster "yourauntrob" covers a number of relevant points. The vast majority of male tourists (95%+??) come to Thailand for two or three weeks at a time and only want to meet girls who will have sex immediately. In other words P4P girls.. No time for a relationship. No time for anything other than r**ting and drinking. Why not - it's all there for you to take. Life and time is too short for mucking around getting to know "proper" thai girls. As we all know places like Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket are Disneyland for adult men. A lot of these men have been burnt by Western women. A lot of these men have so many problems or social failures they could never get a Western woman. A lot of these men just don't care anymore and just want to have a good time in their remaining years. And a lot of long timers don't have much money to live in Thailand beyond basic existence.

So what's your point I hear you say. Well these men will never meet a decent Thai lady. Maybe 1 in every 100 will get lucky and meet someone nice. And it's not just the old men that get burnt by the cunning ways of beautiful young Thai girls in these hotspots. I meet plenty of handsome young men from (especially) Europe who have lost everything to their not so loving (or faithful) P4P girl.

But let's be realistic here. Money attracts P4P girls and it attracts the so called "good" girls. You are not going to meet and keep a "good" girl if you're a bum, with nothing to offer by way of financial security, perhaps relocating them to a Western country, have half decent looks and take care of their family a little (or a lot). As I've posted here before - Thai money marries Thai money. Foreigners just won't get a look in to a middle to upper class Thai family.

In my own situation I met my perfect Thai lady. A divorced woman with a child. Not from the direct sex industry but keen to meet a foreigner nevertheless. Not a "good" girl but not a P4P girl either. She doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, dislikes tattoos and is a brillant cook. I offered her financial security, a nice home, I have good job, most of my hair, tidy and presentable appearance and love the Thai food. She was keen to relocate out of Thailand and loves the Australian weather and lifestyle.

Someone once said to me (as an insult) - "the problem with you is you need a woman who's a cook in the kitchen, a lady in public and a whore in the bedroom". Hey - I thought that would be my perfect woman. Most times you need three women to cover this. I found it in one.

After several visa visits here to Oz to make sure we were really compatible I married her and took her son under my care. Perfect. Well not perfect in the end as after 10 years we are getting a divorce. I will love her to the day I die. Just the way things pan out. Heart shattered and my hopes and dreams for the future with her now gone.

As for learning Thai - I got to about 100 words but I had trouble with the tonal nature of the words and ended up saying the wrong thing. Nothing like talking about beautiful diahorrea when you meant beautiful waterfall!!

So "SiameseCurios" I don't have any wisdom - just some observations, thoughts and limited experience over several trips to Thailand and being married to a Thai woman for 10 years.

This topic has been done to death before. We all know the answers to the question raised. But it's always a laugh to see a few posters "taking the piss" and sending in funny responses. - some of which are taken seriously which is even more funny.

Over the last few years dozens of foreign women have been raped and some killed. The Thai men don't give a flying <deleted> about foreigners. The Thai police aren't capable of dealing with this properly. Do they really care? Women must travel in pairs - anywhere - anytime. Maybe the 20 year old German girl who lost her right hand thumb in a knife attack in Krabi only a few months ago and this Dutch guy can sing a duet about how dangerous Thailand is.

Tourists are such an easy target, in a foreign country, so far from home. They return home robbed, shattered and abused with very little likelihood that they will return and testify against the perpetrator of the crime. It just so hard for them.

And we have to remember that normal law abiding Thais are also the victim of similar violent crimes too.

One of the problems with LB's is that if for any reason you get aggressive with them, or force your way out of them surrounding you or cause any problem for them, you're likely to get the sh*t kicked out of you as they come from everywhere to help their own kind.

Witnesses say the motorbike was being driven at high speed. Easy to do when there's not much traffic around. Open the throttle and away you go. Only problem is if you are not wearing helmets and you crash your skull opens up like a watermelon. Remember the pictures of the two young Brits that were killed in Second Street a few years ago - the policeman was scooping the brains off one of the Heinekin signs. That was about the same time of the morning too. No helmets = no chance. RIP to both very sad. Just having a good time and now gone forever.

Everyone here has a lot to say about the "poor electrical work in Thailand" but all of them have overlooked the fact that it is THEIR responsibility to ensure that THEIR house or THEIR premises are safe. Not to mention that all the posters here seem to be very knowledgeable when it come to (after the fact) electrics - yet NOT ONE has mentioned the one inexpensive little device that could have saved ALL of those lives. It's called an Earth Leakage Relay - or a Residual Current Device. Look it up - and if you don't have one installed, then install one immediately. Before we have to type in yet another RIP!

Good idea. But in the last 12-18 months there have been many tourists electrocuted in the normal course of having a holiday. The young Brit in Second Rd Pattaya, another young Brit in Soi Bangla Phuket, the young Swedish couple in Ao Nang, the Russian having a swim & touching the bridge over the pool and so it goes on and on. Obviously as an expat living in Thailand your idea has great merit but for the average tourist they have no control over shoddy electrical work done by the Thais.

Is there a job opening here for expat retired electricians. Might pay better than TESOL work.

Major head fracture from hitting his head on a table,.... I don't think so!

RIP to the poor victim and condolences to the family!

Yes if its a concrete table that many bars have outside.

Concrete table, footpath, kerb, bitumen road - anything hard will do it. It's happening more and more in Australia. The one hit blind side cowardly punch killing a lot of young kids here. Remember the famous movie star William Holden? He got pissed one night and fell and hit his head on a coffee table. Killed him no problem.