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The paranoia is caused by living under the Sword of Damocles.
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Our office allows my wife to phone copies of passport entry status to them. The reciept comes to us via a friend.Some offices allow postal TM30 reports providing your just reporting a return to the same address.
My office even sign up individuals to the online reporting system if their frequently in/out.
At first,my wife thought I was wrong about the need for TM28 and TM30,so I raised the subject when doing a 90 day report. Immigration soon put her right.
Generally I think that most Thais are unaware of the need for this.
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Quite right, my Thai wife has a 10 year Spanish ID Card and come and go with NO real entry fee or reporting.What I do not understand is that in most countries a visa / or extension is permission to stay in that country period - you do not need to go running around telling people where you are. It is just a massive invasion of privacy.
For such a peaceful country Thailand has huge paranoia about the threat from foreigners.
Snip/ said that Lt-Gen Surachate wanted to bring Thailand in line with other countries' regulations. Snip
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Depends on your lifestyle, we manage happily on less than 1000 euros a month apart from holidays.Been back to Thailand almost a month and got through 200000 baht already lol, but this is a holiday.Been to Southern Spain and it is in the main terrible with desolate developments all over the place. Looks like a scene out of "The end of days" in some places. As for prices, you clearly have a selective memory, or was eating in the wrong places in Thailand. By the way, I know what I am saying about Spain is true as I spent 4 years living on Gibraltar, touring both Spain and Portugal as potential retirement places. But, as the saying goes, "horses for courses".Sent from my SM-J610F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
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Yes me too.
I married a Thai 6 years ago and promptly took her to live with me in Spain.
We only visit Thailand for holidays so she can reconnect with her family and friends.
Thailand is too expensive compared to Spain too.
Spain has proper seasons and the language is so much easier than Thai.
When in Thailand and out and about, my wife has to constantly remind me not to shout at stupid vehicle drivers, for my own safety/.
Roads in Thailand are a nightmare and immigration rule changes make those expats who live here full time, live under The Sword of Damocles!
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Just got back from Blackpool.
Never again.
On the seafront I saw a guy and a woman having a shouting match until the woman smacked the guy in the head, and then it all kicked off.
Then a copper turned up but instead of trying to calm things down he starts belting the guy with his baton....in the end the guy gets the baton off the copper and starts hitting him and his wife with it!
Final straw was when this crocodile turned up and stole all the sausages!
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9 hours ago, JAG said:
In all fairness (heavens, what am I saying) UK immigration are a somewhat charmless collection at times...
I married my Thai wife 6 years ago and promptly took her to Spain, where I have lived since I retired from the UK.
Sure there were hoops to jump throug to obtain her Spanish Foreigners ID Card but it was valid for 5 years.
We traveled in and out of Spain with ease, we were welcomed.We did a stop over in London, as European Citizens, freedom of movement and all that.
Ite Imm Officer was wonderful.
He took my wife's passport to the chief of the day.
He was authorised tto place a 6 mth entry stamp in her PP.
He said that it would make it easier for us to enter for a planned trip so she could meet my family.
We were welcomed.
We drove to the UK later.
On arrival from France, an IO was waiting for us and promptly clear her entry.
He advised that we get an EEA Family Member visa in her PP as this would make things even easier in the future.
We were welcomed.
In Thailand, most Imm offices are overwhelmed with work so IMHO, it's no wonder that we may feel unwelcome.
B'hell, if I was an IO in Thailand, I think I'd be the same as them - overworked and underpaid and possibly grumpy.
Having said that:
If I wanted to live full time in the UK with my wife, she would have to pass the UK knowledge test and the tests for reading/writing and comprehension - these tests are not free!
I would have to show an annual income of about £18 grand whereas the max current pension is about £6.5 grand.If the 90 yr old came to Thailand, say 20 years ago, his pension would have been frozen, so his income would not have matched inflation for 20 years... Who could cope with that?
20 years ago his £ would have got him something like 75 BHT. Today, about 40.
Easy to see how he would have a problem.
Not to mention the inevitable medical expenses that occur as we age.....
I'm surprised he doesn't make a gofund me thing.....
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Obviously never heard of San Izal then!!!
But OMG! Seriously, OMG! Those Izal toilet rolls were like sandpaper.
I'm sorry to offend anyone's delicate sensibilities. But come on here! How did any of us survive the agony of this sadistic faux-tissue - which had the consistency of heavy duty tracing paper - while scraping our tender backsides?
We are wrecked today, I'm telling you, spoiled, ninnified and sissified with our wimpy Cottonelles and Cashmeres.
You had to be a really tough dude(tte) to withstand the rigours of such a primitive wiping. I would roll and tweak and twist the sheets to soften them. In our house, newspaper was sometimes preferred to the Izal. Newspaper softened when manipulated, unlike the vicious Izal. The only downside was that newspaper clogged the toilet so you had to stuff it up your shirt to conceal it from the parents as you obeyed nature's call.
And oh, did I mention Izal stank? Yes it did. Of Dettol, I think, the disinfectant that stung our cuts and abrasions after we fell.
And it was SHINY. Imagine shiny, hard toilet tissue that stank like Jeye's Fluid and you'll get the picture.
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2 minutes ago, theoldgit said:
You may be lucky enough to be able tie up 800,000 Baht for five months every year without needing to spend of it, in which case bully for you.
There might be others who have committed themselves to Thailand by buying themselves a condo to enjoy their retirement in, so don’t have a spare 800,000 Baht they can leave untouched in the bank.
There might be those who’ve retired here under the previous conditions and didn’t expect the goalposts to be moved.
One wonders if those who can demonstrate they have the current required monthly income might be the next to have the goalposts moved.
For the life of me I really don’t understand the reasoning for needing to leave 800,000 Baht in the bank for five months of the year when it’s supposed to be evidence that you have sufficient to live on.I keep more than the 800k in a Thai bank and go for the retirement ext.
However, I have always spent less than half a year /year in Thailand.
Now at 77, the journey is getting to be a bore and the advantage of being in Thailand less and less.
Thus I'll spend less than 90 days in Thailand/year.
If they stop accepting my money in the bank method, it will give me the excuse to never visit Thailand again.
After all, I really only visit so my wife can see her family and friends.....
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23 hours ago, xylophone said:
It's because they are too stupid to know how stupid they look/are!
Perhaps a little harsh, but sadly very true.
Unlike Westerners, I believe that Thai's are taught the most important and serious critical thinking from the earliest possible age.
That thinking extends to, and not beyond, what they would like to eat next.Thus, many Thai's intellect is that of a child and there is no progression.
They live in a culture where barefaced lies are more acceptable than the truth.
They tell each other what the other would like to hear, not the truth.
In such an environment, how can anyone expect them to learn?
They never make mistakes and so cannot learn from them.....No one dares to say another has made a mistake, one of the biggest problems in their culture IMHO.
To ask a foreigner for advice means that a Thai will lose face, because they (like children) know everything.
The biggest problem is of course: to lose face!
Thus, Thai's will do everything possible to avoid any confrontation or truth telling is there is any chance that such behaviour would cause another to lose face.
After all, do unto others as you would have them do to you!
Until Thai's can get over this, nothing will ever change.
However, Molasses may be somewhat less damaging than some of the Wests solutions to global warming and other planetary events?
https://www.wired.com/2013/08/project-west-ford/
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/08/geoengineering-global-warming-ipcc
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160425-how-a-giant-space-umbrella-could-stop-global-warming
So perhaps the West is no better than the East 555
Let's not change the pollution we are causing.
Let's find some other way that let's uc continue as we are....
About as clever as a diabetic taking meds so he can continue to consume too much sugar
or perhaps a grossly obese person taking BP meds instead of reducing weight and becoming healthy again.?
Never mind the quality, feel the width 555
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On 1/15/2019 at 2:34 PM, 7by7 said:
Why are some people bringing the EU into this? The UK's immigration rules for non EEA nationals are nothing to do with the EU. This case is nothing to do with the EU; Brexit will have absolutely zero effect on the Family Migration rules and the financial requirement for same.
I have a feeling that Mr. Duffy is not telling the whole story. Which is a pity, as it means the government can easily ignore this petition; which they will anyway.
In his petition, Mr Duffy says that
But from what he says later, she was in the UK as a student. Which means she could have applied to remain in the UK as his spouse, i.e. convert her student visa to a spouse visa, without returning to the US to do so.
Which, as others have already said, is not true. Self employed income can be used to meet the requirement; see 9. Self-employment or Director or employee of a specified limited company in the UK of the financial appendix.
Plus, as she was in the UK as a student, Mrs. Duffy could work and so any income she received, employed or self employed, could have been added to his self employed income to reach the minimum.
Having said that, regular readers of this forum will know my opinion of the current financial requirement and the steps groups such as the All Party Parliamentary Group on Migration have taken to try and persuade the government to revert back to the previous, far more sensible and above all else fairer system.
For those who don't know what that was, a brief summery.
A couple had to show that after tax, NICs and deducting all fixed outgoings, rent/mortgage, loans etc., they had a net income equal to or more than the income support level for a British family of the same size; currently £114.85 per week, £5972.20 p.a, for a couple; plus extra if either partner is financially responsible for a child or children.
Unfortunately, in this situation, as in many others, governments, no matter their political persuasion, don't do what's right; they do what's popular. The vast majority of British people want all immigration made harder, not easier!
Petitions on the for profit site Change.org have zero effect. The 110364 people who have signed Mr. Duffy's should sign this one on the official government petitions site instead; at least then with over 100,000 signatures the government will have to respond and consider debating it in Parliament.
Unfortunately, Change.org wont allow me to make that comment and so direct people to somewhere which may have a chance, albeit a very small chance, of actually changing anything!
I am also concerned that Change.org asked me for money when I signed (I didn't pay, which may be why I couldn't leave a comment?)! Where does that money go?
Many thanks for this excellent post.
I have signed the pet ion that you gave the link for.I signed the change.org one and like you, I was puzzled by the request for money.
However, why can't I, as a British citizen, marry who I like, wherever they were born and, provided that I have enough financial resources, bring here to the UK to visit or live.
Why should she/he have to pass exams to prove she/he can speak/read/write English and pass an exam to show that she/he "has UK knowledge"?If she was from an ex commonwealth country, those rules don't apply (do they?).
When I married my Thai wife I just assumed that we could travel and be together.
Whata mistakea to makea!
Imagine my horror to learn the my wife could not even visit the UK for a holiday, even with me, unless she had a suitable visa!
Happily, I had already left the UK 2 decades ago and am permanently living in Spain.
The Spanish allowed me to bring her to Spain and eventually gave her a Spanish Foreigners ID Card, good for 5 years.
(Sure there were many hoops to jump through and it took about 6 months, but we were together.)
No language or knowledge tests!
Her ID is currently being renewed, again many hoops, but this time it will be the permanent type and good for 10 years.
Of course, in the UK we do not have ID Cards.
The passport is relied upon, but not everyone has a passport and so no ID?
Why not have ID Cards and NHS Cards like Spain?
I believe such cards would solve a lot of problems.....
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We see the problem, so is there something we can do to rectify it for the future?
Interesting to read that a significant reduction in night vision and poorer eyesight in general is mentioned often in this thread.
This degeneration over time is probably due to insufficient intake of vitamin C.
Apparently, all mammals except the apes, humans and guinea pigs, create as much C as they need and it is a lot more than you would think.
A goat of say 75Kg, would on average, make about 15 grams/day, more if it has an infection or is injured, but our RDA is 80-90mg.
That is about 170,000 times less than other mammals need and create from their food.
At 77, my eyesight has deteriorated with night vision problems so I don't drive at night.
A couple of years ago I started taking vitamin C (powder form) at somewhere between 10-20 grams/day.
(The dose must be divided over the day because it is water soluble and if you take a large dose you would pee it away or even get the runs)
Better late than never, perhaps, but my eyesight is more stable than it was.
Also, I haven't had a cold since increasing vitamin C.
I have discussed this with my daughter and she has followed it up with her own studies.
She is now adding C to her children's diet, divided dose of course.
Perhaps this is something that we have missed because it's only with a zero C diet that you get scurvy and die but just a few mg daily is enough to avoid death, but is that enough to facilitate a fully functioning and healthy person?
Maybe too late for us old farts but why not find out more and help the grandchildren?
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When staying with friends who live near Kamphaeng Phet, their neighbour burned their household rubbish first thing every morning.
The vile smell of smouldering plastic was hard to bear.No one complained, everyone just accepted it.
Well you see, the biggest no no in Thailand is Confrontation!
We all know what dangers that can lead to!!
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A helpful soldier got me back in my car after I'd locked myself out.
He simply pressed his thigh against the door and it opened.
At 1st I was amazed Ithen noticed he was wearing Khaki trousers!
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