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Obviously the courts are one option for dissatisfied students. But does the MOE field complaints? CHE? Can schools be disciplined or even lose accreditation for inappropriate activities?
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Does anyone know of a formal complaint system with the MOE for schools and universities in Thailand?
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It sounds like this is a family venture. Hopefully there are no issues about being forced out. For a private English school, ultimately the licensee is the owner. The owner must be a Thai. But if you are worried about protecting yourself, a non-Thai can own many things in the school like the name, the logo, the curriculum.
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Well I think we agree, we just have a question about defining terms.
A "school" that is not registered is... not a school. It must pay taxes and VAT like a normal company.A school can only run classes according to its curriculum. Of course thats not very well enforced. Once you are set up as a school they pretty much just leave you alone. Of course if an English school started running auto body repair classes it would raise some eyebrows. They would probably strongly suggest you submit the curriculum and get a head teacher to teach the new subject.
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For non formal education all your head teacher needs is a relevant degree.
All schools in Thailand are tax free. No VAT and no income tax. You just have to pay the social security tax on your employees, thats it.
You're going to need to have a headteacher who is Thai and has a degree in English or English teaching.
You can be the licensee as long as you are also tie, although now they have certain restrictions like I think you have to have a university degree and have to be over a certain age. As is often true in Thailand, these rules seem to change and be enforced inconsistently.
I think you need someone involved, head teacher or management, who is qualified to master's level. The curriculum also needs to be approved.
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I'm very interested in this course. When is the next enrollment date? Do you have a website I can browse through? Cheers.
I am not allowed to post url or Emails, but a Google search of Thongsook BA TESOL should find us at or near the top of the list.
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The instructor for each course decides the requirements. Some courses require exams, some require projects, some require papers.
So the MoE does not set the requirements?
The MOE certainly does not get involved in whether a particular instructor asks students in their class to write a paper or take an exam for every course offered at every degree at every university in the Kingdom.
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Sorry I did not read all the responses so I hope this is not repetitive.
There are several kinds of schools that you can open in Thailand. If you are looking to open up strictly an English tutorial school then you would be looking at a School that they consider nontraditional education. These schools used to be called 15/1 schools although I think they may have changed the name. These kinds of schools consist consist of everything from English schools to driving schools to hairdresser schools. I'm going to assume this is the kind of school if you want to open.
You're going to need to have a headteacher who is Thai and has a degree in English or English teaching.
You can be the licensee as long as you are also Thai, although now they have certain restrictions like I think you have to have a university degree and have to be over a certain age. As is often true in Thailand, these rules seem to change and be enforced inconsistently.
When you apply for the license is really not a very difficult or complicated process. You will need to have a curriculum. Sometimes the Ministry of education office will offer you one that's already been approved.
The next step is having your building inspected to make sure that it's safe to run the school. You need to have the engineering drawings so if it's an older building you might need to hire an engineer come in and create some new ones.
Here in Rayong, probably about two thirds of these kinds of private nontraditional schools are not even registered.
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The instructor for each course decides the requirements. Some courses require exams, some require projects, some require papers.
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I have a diploma in TESOL from the UK. Would you offer any credits for this towards doing my degree?
yes, transfer credits are done on a case-by-case basis.
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No idea. He is talking about a recruiter. Perhaps someone has placed an ad for a recruiter and is offering a commission per head on the new programs that will be opening soon (not English teaching related). I'm afraid I know nothing about this, but no decent sales person would be happy earning 10-15K per month. But per head, if they could recruit 5 students per month (these new programs target mainly Thai students) then the money starts to look pretty reasonable.
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I know this is not TERRIBLY helpful but I know Chonburi Technical College and Rayong Technical College both teach auto repair. I would guess most of the government technical colleges would.
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I have no idea what this person is talking about. The lowest paid person in our office, the Thai administrator, is paid more than the amounts you mention. Quite a bit more. I'm afraid your sources are not very good. And when we help the teachers find work we will not even talk to schools that pay less than 30,000 per month--an amount we consider the minimum current salary for a native-speaking English teacher.
But I agree we should stick to teaching and learning here.
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How many credits for each research paper?
Six
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There is only one degree. The vast majority of the credits are earned in class by attending 9 weeks per year over three years (you can attend more or less depending upon your individual schedule). The rest of the credits are via three research papers and a few self access classes.
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There are many people around the world who have jobs they do not necessarily enjoy. This does not mean they should not do them (many have no other options) or cannot do them well.
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Yes, technically, according to the way the law is written, ANY kind of labor is illegal, including cutting your grass and teaching your own kids in Home School. But no one is going to make an issue over these things unless you have somehow made some powerful enemies.
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Also despite missing 2 years of normal schooling my son was accepted into a Thai university without any difficulty at all.
FWIW I had all three of my kids homeschooled at one time or another. I would pull them out of the small local private school for a year at a time and then they would go back. The school allowed them to skip the year that they missed. We did NOT seek any special approval and many people in the MOE (whom I work with) knew what we were doing.
PM me if you want more info.
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Looks like Pepsi doesn't mind their logo plastered on the signboard though.
Pepsico OWNS KFC
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FWIW I had all three of my kids homeschooled at one time or another. I would pull them out of the small local private school for a year at a time and then they would go back. The school allowed them to skip the year that they missed. We did NOT seek any special approval and many people in the MOE (whom I work with) knew what we were doing.
PM me if you want more info.
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We had a busy time through to May. Lots of writing papers and the such. Most things had improved which shows that we are heading in the right direction. There is no doubt that the degree is going to make me a better, more lake knowledgeable teacher. 2 years to go yet so its a long time to go.
In total honesty I cant say that everybody is happy as we are all looking for different things, and some people don't want to work for the qualification. It is possible to get a lot out of the degree, unfortunately one of those things is a visa, and some peoplpe will only want that. Personally I think the degree will be worth the effort and that most students take it seriously. I just hope that as the course increases intake (which is happening rapidly) that the improvements continue. I,m fairly confident they will, and look forward to the rest of the courses. If you have any questions about the course feel free to PM me and I,ll give you an honest answer
Actually we are going to start removing a few people from the program who thought that they could pay a fee, get a visa and disappear. Unfortunately for them (and fortunately for everyone else) this is a real degree program.
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My son began his first term at Burapha University in Bang Sean studying Sports Science three days ago. Sports Science is similar to Physical Education, just a bit more anatomy, etc. PE majors go on to coach or teach PE. Sports Science majors are trainers and quasi physical therapists. They offer both degrees at Burapha (its not chula but its a top 10 university in Thailand).
The fees for tuition are so little they are insignificant--like 3000 baht per term. Housing and other expenses are far more than the actual degree.
My income is pretty high, especially compared to most Thais. As far as I know we did not receive any kind of discount or scholarship. Its a government university and like the hospitals, are far cheaper than the private ones.
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Beenthere2 and others reading this, no program is perfect and none will meet the needs of everyone.
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