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Anyone know where Glow have their listings? I don't use facebook and their website just redirects to facebook now.

Walt has the M60 in the boot of his car he got from the contact he originally bought his revolver from back in series 1 or 2 I think.

Not sure where people are (or are obviously not) looking but this is confirmed incident -

http://avherald.com/h?article=468bcb64&opt=0

OP - Sorry to hear about your delays, hope you get some decent compo.

Just sell them,before they end up like this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpYiNusK2mw

Nice link thanks.

But the only difference in these aircraft and the 4 parked up by thai airways, is that the ones in the desert are probably better maintained. Certainly climate wise which is why there parked in the desert.

The just for info all those aircraft parked there are in storage and owe people a lot of money. Which is why they are parked there.

They are not scrap. Well for now anyway....

That's def one of the more temporary storage facilities, at least for the more modern aircraft. I see 4 BA 747-400's there. They did have 6 stored there, when that video was shot 2 had already been returned to service and now they've brought another one back so there are just 3 left there now.

There are rip-tide warnings in Thai and English on signs on the beach....doubt there are any in Burmese? No doubt he was in Phuket to work for a pittance to send money home. Very sad. How many deaths on Karon now this year, same as every year?

74 posts...but I haven't worked out who is the guy pointing??? Can't be the dead bloke (presumably) So who is it??

I am wondering this too.

Remember concorde?? Beautiful advanced etc.... But trying to make profit out of that type was almost impossible. The only thing that enabled concorde to remain that long in service was its charter business in the late 80's and in to the 90's. Commercially it was a disaster but with ba and airfrance, because of the prestige factor of concorde it remained in service. The A340 500 an't got that sex appeal.

Agree with most of what you said but Concorde made BA average yearly profits of £30-50 Million. Total Concorde costs for BA were around £1 Billion and total revenue was around £1.75 Billion over it's service life for BA. It was still profitable when it was retired, BA would liked to have kept it flying until around 2007-2010 I believe.

Air France was a different matter though, it was thoroughly mismanaged and mis-operated by them and this lead to it's demise.

Concorde was and remains a very misunderstood aircraft.

All very true. But those profits to which you reference, (Btw thanks for adding the figures, adds more depth to the conversation) are profits from the charter business.

Now i have to "wing" the conversation a little, memory not quite what it was. So appoligies if info not exact. But please research and correct accordingly.

As far as I can recall around end of the 80's BA was a little bit stumped as to how to keep an exspensive aircraft that was so high profile, in service without costing maybe the company.

BA could ill afford to retire the type as the PR alone would be costly.

Then basically they recieved a chistmas present. A holiday company Goodwin or Goodwood travell??? (Please correct)

wanted to charter concorde and offer ultra high end travell packages ulitlizing its speed and luxury.

Cut a long story short they accepted and that charter company begain to sell seats big time.

Remember end of the 80's early 90's. Yuppie time for sure and all the who's who wanted to travell.

If I remember some of these seats were selling £2500 to £3000 pp add the hotel etc... and bingo. That was big money back then.

This made alot of money for BA and the travel company. All the pictures you may find on the net of concorde in exotic destinations were from this time.

All was fine up intill the time noise abatement regulations came in around mid to late 90's and this basically prevented concorde from flying to many places.

In the end with such restrictions the travell company with started to withdraw and BA was basically left with revenue from LHR to JFK and that was it.

So yes it made a profit but never really on a regular scheduled revenue route, only charter.

As for the french....... well they have problems marketing everything.

Do you know the French have one of the oldest aviation companies in existance and it is huge even today. The the name is refered to an acronym S.N.E.C.M.A.

Many fingers in many pie but I bet no one (without looking it up) can tell me anything about that company.

So thats how good the french are at marketing.

Sorry a bit off the original topic but it is related to the story in the fact thay director's have to make unpopular choices at times for the saviour of ther rest. Including Thai Airways.

Yes I know and remember Goodwood travel well, I travelled on Concorde through them on a round the Bay of Biscay trip. They were always very popular as well as the more exotic trips they organised. They certainly helped BA to turn a profit on it. The Goodwood travel flights ended after the accident when BA did not have the fleet availability to run these as well as run the daily schceduled BA1,2,3,4's and their seasonal bi weekly's I think to Barbados. There was talk of them starting up again just for the Bay Of Biscay trips on a more limited basis if BA had done the post-accident mods to the 2 remaining a/c they had that did not have them yet. The mods were part of a wider upgrade which would have given them all new cabins, toilets and galleys etc. BA were committed to the a/c as it still made them a profit on the daily scheduled flights post accident even without the Goodwood charters, albeit not as much.

Air France made nothing on it ever though and put a stop to it all and that was that.

I know SNECMA made the reheats and inlets for Concorde's Olympus 593's and I think they make the Ariane rocket engines....buy you're right, the average man on the street has never heard of them.

The decision to retire was certainly the most unpopular that BA's directors had to make in a long time, or more accurately accept without choice. It was a lot easier for the Air France directors to make as the accident had eroded public appreciation of Concorde rather a lot and there was also a lot going on behind the scenes that was not made public (another very very near accident).

Saul is a great character and Todd is also very good now, the nicest most polite psycho child killer i've ever seen

dinner and drinks asiatique and a ride on the ferris wheel. drinks at scirrocco. even an 11 year old will be blown away by the view up there

Or blown away by the wind It is a great view though, worth having a drink there.

A private super luxury A340 500..... Should come in handy if (when) he needs to make a quick exit from The Kingdom, pursued down the runway by the plebs waving machetes! Could never happen, they said that about the Shah of Iran didn't they? Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Yes, the House Of Saud will fall in the not too distant future and they will want big aircraft with long range and high payload to get the hell out of there with as much Gold and assets as they can carry.

Remember concorde?? Beautiful advanced etc.... But trying to make profit out of that type was almost impossible. The only thing that enabled concorde to remain that long in service was its charter business in the late 80's and in to the 90's. Commercially it was a disaster but with ba and airfrance, because of the prestige factor of concorde it remained in service. The A340 500 an't got that sex appeal.

Agree with most of what you said but Concorde made BA average yearly profits of £30-50 Million. Total Concorde costs for BA were around £1 Billion and total revenue was around £1.75 Billion over it's service life for BA. It was still profitable when it was retired, BA would liked to have kept it flying until around 2007-2010 I believe.

Air France was a different matter though, it was thoroughly mismanaged and mis-operated by them and this lead to it's demise.

Concorde was and remains a very misunderstood aircraft.

What is the purpose of the copper wire they took? It must be there for something but seemingly did not affect BTS operations?

Almost certainly part of the stray-current protection, it stops the return current passing through the re-bar and tensioning tendons of the viaduct (where it could cause corrosion with predictable results).

Most of the return current passes via the running rails, but some can 'stray' into the structure, Google "stray current protection railway" for more info.

Thanks, will have a look

Take her away from Patong. All her friends will be there, you'll be paying for all of them one way or another. If she doesn't want to go or leave Patong to just be with you then run away and have a month somewhere nice yourself.

Walt + M60 = Ice cold revenge.

The Nazi's are gonna get it but he'll be too late to save Jesse or Jesse will likely redeem himself in some way in the final standoff/shootout but end up dying.

What is the purpose of the copper wire they took? It must be there for something but seemingly did not affect BTS operations?

Told you.

Should not have bought any Airbus.

Stick to Boeing, it is the right choice.

Can't go wrong with anything made in the USA.

Well, I'm no great fan of Airbus...

But things didn't go too well for the Thai Air Boeing 737 that blew up on the ground at Don Muang in 2001, or the TWA Flight 800 Boeing 747 that blew up in mid-air in 1996 off the U.S. East Coast -- both found to have been caused by the ignition of flammable fuel/air vapors in the fuel tanks, believed triggered by sparks or short circuits.

All aircraft have their design and manufacturing issues, some smaller and few, others greater and many. I haven't seen anything to prove to me that Airbuses overall are safer airplanes than Boeings.

Yes, not forgetting all the 737's that fell out of the sky and killed a lot of people because of the tail issues that Boeing tried to ignore.

Or the 737's that the roofs have torn off in flight because of Boeing not being able to drill rivet holes the right size or in correct alignment.

Both the above are huge scandals and damning indictments on the quality of Boeing aircraft and safety standards, expecially as the 737 is the most popular plane ever made - you'd think they'd have been able to get it right after 30+ years of making them which is when these aircraft were produced.

Ahh where's Alicia Keys, ?

Now there's a class act.

Rihanna........no thanks, scutter.

Air Worthiness directives or AD's are common to all aircraft big or small and have been around for half a century.

There is nothing unusual or unique in them but the system has made air travel one of the safest ways of getting around.

In most accidents it is humans and not the aircraft at fault.

Took the words out of my mouth, all aircraft get AD's through their lifetime as issues are noticed and corrected. This is just typical attempted deflection of blame by Thai Air.

Brilliant photo's.

Idiots! One beach was affected. I shall be going to Samet in end of Oct, start of Nov and look forward to cheap rooms and it being nice and quiet on all the lovely clean beaches on the East coast.

Other peoples moronity is the thinking travellers delight.

most "thinking travellers" would be hesitant to visit a small island surrounded by water that has been tested and found to be highly-contaminated (note that the water samples were taken from various places around the island).

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Contamination-in-and-around-Koh-Samet-causing-conc-30212836.html

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/High-mercury-levels-found-near-spill-site-30212571.html

http://www.aecnews.net/index.php/en/thailand-1/2313-second-test-says-contamination-level-in-koh-sametis-high

but hey as you said cheap rooms!

I don't go in the water, I don't eat seafood - I'll be fine sitting on the beach, relaxing, tanning and reading my books

From a pilot forum -

"In 2007 an A330 bogie beam broke up during taxiing in Munich caused by internal corrosion.

The damage to the runway in BKK suggest the same (bogie beam failure) happened during touchdown this time.
That issue should have been solved by the according Airworthiness Directive issued January 2008, refined July 2011 and January 2012.
However, according to the AD:

Quote: This condition, if not detected and corrected, could lead to a runway excursion event.

BIG problem for Thai Air if the airworthiness directive has not been followed by their maint teams. Thai Air also have 30 odd other A330's - have these had the AD check applied?

Idiots! One beach was affected. I shall be going to Samet in end of Oct, start of Nov and look forward to cheap rooms and it being nice and quiet on all the lovely clean beaches on the East coast.

Other peoples moronity is the thinking travellers delight.

In order for an aircraft to get certified you must be able to evacuate all passengers within 90 seconds.

To be fair, I wouldn't say that's too difficult when it's on the ground with the doors open and one of the fuxking engines is on fire.

Well it was very difficult at Manchester and even more difficult in Saudi. There are many pictures bear testimony, pictures where people are piled up high at the exits because they caused a blockage and all of them charred to a crisp? Aircraft evacuation is a very difficult business. The survivors in Manchester were generally the stronger males who climbed over the tops of the seats, standing on the heads of women and children to get out. They did, they were the few.

The problem with aircraft manufacturers is that they do evacuation tests with cabin crew dressed in sports kit who run in single file out the aircraft, then go under the aircraft up some steps and through the doors on the other side, straight through out the exits again. That is how you evacuate an aircraft in 90 seconds to fill a standard. You try getting out when Granny Smith is in front of you with the grand kids all screaming and the great big fat lady weighing 300 pounds is trying to get her bag with duty free perfume out the overhead locker.

In a bid to check the reality of an evacuation, one organization hired a cabin simulator and filled it with fit healthy Uni students and offered $150 cash to the first three students out. After 90 seconds and the ensuing fight that broke out in a bid to exit first, there were 3 or 4 broken bones and nobody had managed to get out the aircraft.

An emergency evacuation is a scary thing with hundreds of people of differing physical and psychological profiles. If the aircraft is burning you will have seconds to fight your way out before smoke incapacitates most people, that includes those queuing up.

For everyone here, when you are on board an aircraft with your family or even by your self, you will only ever be in the correct state of mind for an emergency if you prepare for it. Do not read your book or talk while the safety brief is on, watch it, even if you have watched it a thousand times. It puts you mentally at an advantage over everyone else. Really look where the exit is, count the rows in front and behind, look how to get there (an aircraft could be upside down when it comes to rest and nothing will look the same). Look to see who the problem people are that will stop you and your family getting to that exit and work a plan around that. it takes seconds to do and it prepares you more than you could ever think possible. It also gets rid of 90% of the panic because you will be instantly prepared with your plan if that 1 in 26000 chance event ever takes place! Don't take your shoes off until you are established in the climb, running through jagged metal and burning wreckage is unlikely to be successful if you are barefoot, etc etc etc think about it, shit happens, try and legislate for it.

Very good advice. The best advice unofficially given for an evac is do whatever it takes to get yourself your family or those you care about off the plane ASAP. Assess the situation. If there is smoke, fire or water engulfing the cabin then go go go. Climb over seats, elbow, push, shove, throw people out the way to get to an exit. If you want to live get out ASAP. In incidents like BAT28M it was the people who acted in this way that survived. If you wait your turn, hesitate or freeze your chance of dying right there goes right up.

Brilliant! I think you're right. Please do go back in daylight and get a couple more pics :)