Thaiwine

6 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

The problem is that you are indulging in wishful thinking. You may have wanted a complete severing of ties, whatever the economic consequences. But that's not what politicians like Johnson were advocating. Many people did not vote for no deal. And many of them voted for Corbyn. If people were attracted to no deal May would have won by a landslide.

 

The point that you you are missing is that the Government is in disarray, they have no mandate for what you are proposing and there are too many Tory MPs that will not allow the country to just simply fall over a cliff. You can only do that when you have a very large majority, not when you are a minority government. That option is now dead. Any government that tried to do that would be annihilated in the next election. It simply will not happen. I would not be surprised to see a referendum on the deal. 

 

 

The govenment has the mandate from the referendum, to many tory mp's will stop them? how will they stop them doing nothing? from what I saw Labour avoided brexit and concentrated on issues like NHS, education, housing things that people worry about, where as TM just talked about wanting a mandate for Brexit, the youngsters who cried last time about not voting came out and voted for Labour because he appealed to them, also the ukip voters returned to their loyalty base which is why Labour did well, so I disagree with your spin on the election. past or future.

2 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

 

TM does not have 21 months. TM did not campaign for Leave, but Boris Johnson did ... and he gave assurances that the UK would stay within the single market ... his "have cake and eat it" pledge. So not all people who voted Brexit wanted "no deal". Corbyn has stated that he wants to stay within the customs union and single market, and he received many votes from brexit voters. So the idea that everyone who voted leave wanted a full break from customs union and single market is false. We might technically leave the EU, but the relationship we end up with might well be very close, involve funding and include free movement. And financial commentators in the City are now talking about a referendum on the final deal. So we might end up back in, or indeed never leave. The sands are shifting, and don't think because people voted narrowly for something one year ago that they cannot reject it a couple of years later, when they understand what it means.

the choice was leave or remain, it was said we wanted a trade deal with the EU on agreeable  terms, it was also said we would be better of with no deal than what we have now, which the people understood.

You seem to be missing the point, the leavers don't need to do anything, no second choice just wait and we leave, there is nothing the remoaners can do to stop it, if the govenment chooses to go that way.

When we had the referendum the choice was to leave or remain not do we want to leave just a little bit, the remoaners invented soft or hard after they lost.

Have you ladies considered that artical 50 has been servered so in two years from last march we leave, rules are if there is no deal agreed we leave, TM does not need to agree to any demands just ride it out for 21 months, bye bye EU.

7 minutes ago, pegman said:

4am? How the hell long does it take to get a ballot count in 2017? In Canada we have 6 time zones and get it done from start to finish quicker.

We count by hand, can't trust them ruskies.

1 minute ago, oxo1947 said:

Amber Rudd has lost her seat but has asked for an immediate re-count..(must be taking lessons from another Scots lady)  isn't Amber the one Mrs May threw into the TV debate when she would not go ??....................

While I am a Tory voter I'm glad she's gone.

if she has (subject to recount)

Well we're into the last furlong and it's neck and neck at the min, Labour are 20 seats up Tories are 9 seats down.

Better than the x facter 555

Just now, binjalin said:

no way... she's toast

Not yet the tories are just about holding their own at the min, tho Labour are storming it 16 seats up so far.

Yes Nick Clegg just lost his seat to Labour, lol

Labour is doing well after 175 results they are up 6 seats,

A bit early to break out the chapers labour has taken one seat from snp. lol

* champers

OK many have said “what do we do?”

 My top 10 thoughts are.

1.       Deport all on the watch list that have a foreign passport and cancel any visa/right to be in the UK.

2.       Anyone who has gone to fight for a terrorist organisation has their passport cancelled.

3.       Cancel any foreign aid to Muslim countries.

4.       Cancel any government funding for religious entities.

5.       Any Muslim wishing to travel to the UK should have extreme vetting (like DT wants) if they don’t like it then don’t come here.

6.       Introduce a national school uniform to be worn by all school children.

7.       Ban Halal food ( thanks Grouse for the idea).

8.       No religious schools (sorry Catholics but you know it makes sense).

9.       No right to UK citizenship for first or second generation migrants.

10.   Any migrant here whose country is now safe to live in must leave or obtain a renewable visa to stay.

9 hours ago, balo said:

The terrorists were British born, just like the idiot in Manchester.

 

So the problem was created more than 20 years ago , too late now. 

 

of the two named so far one was Pakistan born the other Morrocan-Libyan

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40165646

13 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

7/11?

ok I ment 9/11 (maybe old age showing)

2 hours ago, Grouse said:

So why don't the 1.8 billion heros clean their Augean stables insteading of leaving us infidels to clean up after you? Disgusting.

A very good point,

why indeed do the islamists not sort out there own dirty laundry, could it be they only mouth their abhorrence,

I will never forget the joy and jubilation that was show by muslims in the aftermath of 7/11,

this was an example of how they feel about the west.

1 hour ago, Caps said:

Well done the NSA....another great Export by the US

All countries look into ways of making war defensive or offensive, it's the plonkers like wikileaks who realease  stuff like this without a care to the damage they do.

Wikileaks is more often seen as a good guy for releasing classified data

it's not always good when you don't know what the ramafacations will be.

2 hours ago, johnnyonesock said:

Theresa May is in the pocket of the "globalists" and will not be negotiating on behalf of the British people..she will have her orders and number 1 is to continue to have open borders so that the dregs of Europe and the 3rd world can continue to destroy the British culture and way of life...divide and rule is what its all about

our best hope is to give her the strongest hand we can, if we get sold out then what will be will be, we remember and wait for the next election 2022

In a divorce the one with the greater earning potential pays the other one, it seems to me the EU with 500 million citizens has the greater earning potential, so.......

2 minutes ago, robblok said:

Then she is in a cheap condo.. they people renting it out often charge crazy prices for electricity . She is not connected directly and does not get a bill in her name from the electric company.

yes she pays the landlord direct,

10 baht per unit electric and 40 per unit for water,

I wondered how much electric cost

"The change will mean the average cost of a unit of electricity will be 3.5079 per unit from May to August."

hmmm the g/f is charged 10 baht per unit,

strike a deal with malaysia, transfer citizensip of all muslims, deport them all, drastic measures are needed or it will never end

New Labour party anthem "I did it my way" by JC

6 hours ago, the guest said:

Most likely they will open in EU, and thereafter close their branches in the UK 

Lets hope so then the EU can bail them out next time when they go belly up instead of the British taxpayers

Just deduct the tax before paying for the buses then pay the balance to the suppliers.

Job done.

7 hours ago, striderman said:

i can see bali hai port from my room.

it left pattaya saturday afternoon at 15 07 presumably for hua hin.

sunday it failed to make the return journey to start the next cycle.

as dark falls it is still not back so i guess the trip from hua hin was either cancelled or aborted due to sea conditions.

 

From the other thread on this subject:

"Two ferry services will be available per day. The first one will leave Hua Hin from 8.30 am on a 113-kilometer journey and will take approximately 1 hour and 40 minutes to reach Pattaya. The second trip will leave Pattaya at 3.30 pm for Hua Hin. The ferry can carry a maximum of 150 passengers per trip."

So I guess it will be back about 11.00 in the morning.