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Thaiwine

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  1. 2 minutes ago, chiang mai said:

     

    You think that medical treatment in Thailand is really that inexpensive that the government  could absorb that sort of cost? USD 10k may well be 350k baht but that's a pittance when it comes to medical care costs, a triple bypass alone could easily run 750k baht.

     

    I'm thinking of a 10 year visa option for people to live in Thailand that would cover any medical costs, not people who came only for treatment, if you came just for treatment you would hardly need a 10 year visa, and I was thinking 10k baht monthly for the visa, there would be quite a few takers I would have thought.

  2. For those who keep saying at's just the odd ones, the majority of muslims are horrified bt these attacks,

    I say to you remember 9/11 how the muslims celebrated while the rest of the world was in shock, that is how muslims view the west, they are here for a better wealthier life, that is all they still want their religion and culture but with western money.

    muslims happy about 9/11

  3. Another sad result of Brexit.

    Europe is going to hell in a hand basket and we still have people like you saying 'another sad result of Brexit'. There are NO sad results of Brexit, it could not come at a better time. The only issue I have is PM May taking her time to action the process. The UK needs to leave today, not in 2017.

    Instead of pontificating and putting millions into funds to establish think tanks, the Government needs to start a campaign of education. In particular the animosity towards the Polish needs to be stopped. They are amongst the hardest working most trustworthy immigrants in the UK and they have earned their place with us. There were huge numbers of Polish forces fought with us in WW2. The source of this problem is not Brexit.

    People like me think the idea of the UK leaving the EU is not only sad, but disastrous. Obviously I wouldn't expect Brexiters to agree. I'm clinging on to the hope that when the full ramifications are realised a new deal can be negotiated that allows us to remain in the EU.

    A new poll by the Express gives 98% for a hurry up out, ok express is pro leave but 98% is still more than I would have thought, looks like some of the remainers now want out asap too.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/693193/NO-EU-deal-talks-Brussels-quit-NOW-new-poll-readers

  4. Another sad result of Brexit.

    Europe is going to hell in a hand basket and we still have people like you saying 'another sad result of Brexit'. There are NO sad results of Brexit, it could not come at a better time. The only issue I have is PM May taking her time to action the process. The UK needs to leave today, not in 2017.

    Instead of pontificating and putting millions into funds to establish think tanks, the Government needs to start a campaign of education. In particular the animosity towards the Polish needs to be stopped. They are amongst the hardest working most trustworthy immigrants in the UK and they have earned their place with us. There were huge numbers of Polish forces fought with us in WW2. The source of this problem is not Brexit.

    From what I remember from my school lessons, Britian declared war on Germany when Germany invaded Poland as we had an treaty with Poland to defend each other, so to say we should be thankful to the polish for fighting at our side is a bit rich.

    The poles are not the problem like other nationalities coming to the UK to live, it's the shear volume of migrants overwhelming our lifestyle and culture. IMO

  5. "The asylum-seeking Syrian man had been involved in previous incidents causing injuries to other people, police said"

    one more woman dead in the name of multiculturalism, he should have been deported on first offence as undesirable.

    50% of those "refugees" you can not send back as their true identity is unknown, and MAGHREB countries entirely refusing to take back their nationals even if the identity is known and they committed crimes

    You can tell where most of the migrants come from, language is a good give away plus cultural habits etc, the EU has an agreement with Turkey to take back failed assylum seekers so many if not all could be deported if there was the political will to do so.

  6. Obviously Germany got it right by denying this guy asylum. Where they got it wrong was not deporting him immediately.

    Though members have repeatedly been informed otherwise, the same nonsense is repeatedly posted. Governments are unable to deport declined asylum seekers back to Syria as currently there are not government to government agreements in-place to do so.

    The EU has an agreement with Turkey to take back failed asylum seekers in exchange for one from a refugee camp, so yes he could have been deported as soon as no was decided.

  7. According to the Ministry of Truth:-

    Sonboly is a Muslim (probably) therefore he is a jihadist terrorist.

    He was dressed in black therefore he is a jihadist terrorist.

    One witness, herself a Muslim, says she heard him shout "Allah Akbar!" therefore he is a jihadist terrorist. (What happened to the Ministry of Truth's proclamation that all Muslims are duty bound by their faith lie to unbelievers? Doesn't it apply in this case?)

    Etc., etc., ad absurdum.

    What do they base these 'truths' upon?

    Conspiracy theories, obfuscations and lies.

    I didn't see any of the BBC news bulletins referred to by one Ministry of Truth spokesperson above; but Breitbart, a well known mouthpiece of the Ministry of Truth, as an independent source? Do they really have people monitoring every BBC news report on every BBC channel? The BBC website reported

    The gunman, who had dual German-Iranian nationality, later killed himself.

    His name has not been officially released but he is being named locally as David Ali Sonboly.

    He has also been referred to as Ali David Sonboly, or David S.

    so the accusation that they attempted in someway to hide his nationality and name is total <deleted>.

    Which is typical of the Ministry of Truth and it's mouthpieces.

    The German authorities say he was born in Germany, had dual German and Iranian nationality and that his parents came from Iran in the 1990s; why would they lie? Iranian or Syrian; both the same to the ignorant and prejudiced followers of the Ministry of Truth; Muslim, therefore jihadist terrorists.

    Sonboly was not unemployed and on benefits; more <deleted>. He was an 18 year old student from a fairly well off, middle class family and had a part time job. As it appears from the evidence he had been planning this for over a year it is not inconceivable that he had amassed sufficient money to purchase the weapon and ammunition.

    I guess you`re gonna keep really quiet on this latest muslem attacker(Syrian Refugee)to strike in Germany.Probably another in the long list of lone wolfs.Disgusting apologists will no doubt be along soon to try to justify this.

    You know how it works, the girl gave him the cold shoulder hurt his ego, he forgot his meds, he just happened to have a machette up his sleeve, it wasn't because he was a muslim, it was a one off incident don't worry.

  8. It seems to me all this info on the attacker is coming from the msm via official government sources, so I take it with a pinch of salt, in the belief that they want to down play islamist connections if they can, what we can reasonably belive is that he was Iranian, muslim, murderer what we haven't been told is how this 'non jihadist' came by a gun and a large amount of ammo in a gun controlled country, still sceptical.

    If your absurd theory is correct, then explain why the sources you are so sceptical of did not make any attempt to "down play" Islamist terrorism connections in other recent atrocities; such as Nice and the axe attack on a German train?

    He is an Iranian/German dual national; but if he is a jihadist why did he shout "I am German?" Surely a jihadist would be emphasising is Islamic roots, not his German ones?

    Accept the fact; this attack in Munich is not linked to Islamic terrorism in any way.

    It is not even, unfortunately, the first time such an atrocity has happened in Germany; there have been three school massacres carried out by former students; in Winnenden in 2009 where 16 people died, in Emsdetten in 2006 where five people were hurt and the shooter killed himself, and at a school in Erfurt in 2002 where 17 people died. All of the perpetrators in those cases were German; none of them Muslim.

    Yes, German gun laws have been made stricter since then, but Germany still has the highest legal gun ownership in the EU, fourth highest in the world; with more guns legally owned per capita than in Mexico, Russia or South Africa.

    Reports say that the weapon used in this attack had the serial number filed off; so obviously he obtained it illegally through some means. From what is known about him, obviously this attack was preplanned and he would have found some way of obtaining the weapon.

    It has been accepted for some time that authorities have stopped revealing offender’s nationalities saying a person’s nationality is irrelevant, all to do with helping us all integrate, in fact the BBC was caught out doing exactly this with regards to this incident.

    At 3pm UK time on Saturday, the BBC made reference to the killer as Ali Sonboly. Within one hour however, the BBC had changed its references to the now dead culprit to “David Sonboly”. At 6:31pm, the news bulletin on the BBC News Channel referred to him as “David Sonboly” though at 6:32pm their correspondent in Germany referred to him as “David Ali Sonboly”. ( Source, Breitbart )

    But they did try to downplay the Nice attack saying he was a mental nutter who just separated from the wife he was on meds etc, hard to downplay the train one as Isis claimed him as theirs and wasn’t there a video.

    Inside the mall a Muslim lady heard him shout Allah Akbar. ( Source, CNN ) this seems to have been dropped from later reporting, as was the fact he was dressed in black ( source, Aljazeera ) ‘as irrelevant presumably’

    Further footage emerged of him on the shopping centre’s rooftop car park, shouting “I am German” after a man challenged him, he seems to have been born in Germany from ‘Iranian’ immigrant parents, so yes he would shout “I am German”, stander’s post linking him to Syrian/Turkish origins has been removed, which further draws doubt on his ancestry and the official version.

    Did I read somewhere he was unemployed? benefits are good in Germany to live and be able to buy a gun and 300+ rounds of ammo on the black market, and all by the time your 18, he was a loner which means he probably had a flat or apartment too that he would need to pay for, convenient for the authorities they can label him anyway they choose, who’s to say they are misleading the public?

    The fact that there are nutters other than Islamist ones who go around killing people does not mean he is or is not one of them, (unless we are told to believe so)

    Just some of the doubts, irregularities I see in the official version for the sheeple to swallow.

  9. It seems to me all this info on the attacker is coming from the msm via official government sources, so I take it with a pinch of salt, in the belief that they want to down play islamist connections if they can, what we can reasonably belive is that he was Iranian, muslim, murderer what we haven't been told is how this 'non jihadist' came by a gun and a large amount of ammo in a gun controlled country, still sceptical.

  10. It sounds like the Liechtenstein model. The difference is that, for Liechtenstein, the emergency measures are effectively permanent.

    I can see where an option in effect could become permanent,

    What seems to be unsaid is that "we have won an opt out on free movement so there's no need to invoke artical 50 or change anything else brexit means we have won on freedom of movement" which would probabaly be enough to defuse a Ukip rebellion at the next election.

  11. Plans to allow the United Kingdom an exemption from EU rules on freedom of movement for up to seven years while retaining access to the single market are being considered in European capitals as part of a potential deal on Brexit.

    Senior British and EU sources have confirmed that despite strong initial resistance from French president François Hollande in talks with prime minister Theresa May last week, the idea of an emergency brake on the free movement of people that would go far further than the one David Cameron negotiated before the Brexit referendum is being examined.

    While the plan will prove highly controversial in many member states, including France, Poland and other central and eastern European nations, the attraction is that it would limit the economic shock to the EU economy from Brexit by keeping the UK in the single market, and lessen the political damage to the European project that would result from complete divorce.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/24/brexit-deal-free-movement-exemption-seven-years

    What a pity that it took a referendum and a Bexit vote for the EU to come to its senses.

    This deal will be struck, of that there is no doubt.

    After the 7 year period, the new status quo will continue Ad Infinitum.

    It sounds like a bit of a fudge to me, status quo would remain free movement, unless under "particular pressure"

    Quote from article

    “If the rights of EU citizens now living the UK can be guaranteed permanently by the UK government, then I think we can look at some form of emergency brake on free movement of labour,” he said. “This could be invoked when the British labour market is under particular pressure. I would try to limit it to the UK at this stage.

  12. How do we get parliament to have a vote on expelling Scotland from the union ?

    You hold a referendum to succeed from the union then reform it without Scotland.

    Surely if England left the union that would leave Scotland, Wales and Northan Ireland in the union

    And may they live happy ever after.

    It would not surprise me if England were to want that (except maybe London).

    I am sure the rest could find their way.... Though Wales seems to have lost it's uniqueness so they might come crawling back to little England.

    It would definitely work out since the remaining Union would void the referendum results and stay in the EU.

    Nah I vote we leave the union after we have left the EU, just to stuff the others up cheesy.gif

  13. That would raise the question "why?"

    To secure the oil supply, Saudi Arabia supplies most we don't need to secure our oil supply

    To promote our way of life as better, we could mind our own business

    To prevent future war on home soil, the arab states were not a threat

    no the answer is here

    "We Don’t Want ISIS Defeated in Syria" - IDF Major General Halevy

    Israeli officials have regularly expressed comfort with the idea of ISIS conquering the whole of Syria, saying they find it preferable to the Iran-allied government surviving the war.

    http://arretsurinfo.ch/israeli-intel-chief-we-dont-want-isis-defeated-in-syria/

    I'm not sold on the idea

    So the thought is the west destabalised the middle east to stop Iran/syria wiping out Israel ? so why Somalia/Libya, hard line Islamic states like Saudi Arabi makes more sense.

    (have to go to work now)

  14. The middle east proves this idea wrong, it's killing for ideology not race.

    “We’re going to take out seven countries in 5 years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran” –

    General Wesley Clark in 2007

    That would raise the question "why?"

    To secure the oil supply, Saudi Arabia supplies most we don't need to secure our oil supply

    To promote our way of life as better, we could mind our own business

    To prevent future war on home soil, the arab states were not a threat

  15. A very clever man (the French ex President) said not long ago that French people must marry interracially. If race mixing does not occur voluntarily the state will move to use force to make it happen. There is no choice in this matter, it must happen therefore it will happen. We will change all at the same time. To fail to racially interbreed will mean the end to France.

    I believe the thrust of this would be that France can prevent another attack, but only when there are no white people left. Well, it is possible?

    The middle east proves this idea wrong, it's killing for ideology not race.

  16. I guess you have to spare a thought for those English who wanted to Remain in EU, but wanted Scotland out the Union.

    Bad luck or what!

    bah.gif

    Well a friend of mine who is English by birth - was wondering if they might have the option to pick Scottish citizenship if they separate since free movement for labour inside Europe is important to him.

    I read on the BBC website that EU countries were going to offer citizenship to Brits who want to remain,

    Some options here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36703037

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