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37 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Which is where the anti-Vaxxers get crushed, since vaccine efficacy is demonstrated via hundreds of clinical trials worldwide. 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/effectiveness.html?s_cid=10464:covid vaccine effective:sem.ga:p:RG:GM:gen:PTN:FY21

I'm not an anti-vaxxer supporter, however having experienced the full blast of Covid attacking my immune system, and recovering from it, I'm relying on my antibodies protecting me to at least a similar degree to any current vax.

For those who have not been infected, I would recommend a vax protector rather than experience the full blast of Covid.  

2 hours ago, Justanotherone said:

 

I  had covid last year and I am not diabetic, not on cancer medication nor several pills for chronic diseases as I live and EAT healthy, have a normal weight, get in the sun, plenty of exercise and do everything to keep my healht in good condition... but I will have to be vaxxed anyway ?  my body  belongs to me only and IF YOU GOT YOUR VAXX you should be safe as long as you believe it is working... look at UK, ISRAEL...

There has been no comment about those who have had and recovered from Covid as I did.. This is regarded as natural immunity with antibody protection, known as herd immunity.

Which at the earlier stages of the pandemic, UK scientific doctors were seriously considering that option, but got cold feet, because regretfully people can and will die from it. A political risk not undertaken.

The Vacs are just that, a booster to the immune system, not a lifetime preventative. And anyone with vax protection should understand that, and be prepared to catch Covid at some point. In the near future. A lifetime vaccine will likely be developed - because it's a big money earner for Big Pharma, but it is not in place now. 

1 hour ago, smedly said:

do a bit of digging and you will find bars are open in cities up north - this alcohol ban is targetting only a few cities that generally host foreign tourists

You need to consider the larger picture. A few bars opening won't cut the mustard. There has to be a countrywide message to the government from all  businesses, not just bars..

Not only Pattaya, but the whole country businesses should up arms (peacefully) and make their voices heard via Thai TV channels that they'll all open for Xmas and New Year come what may.      

I am now fed up to my back teeth with this government which has lost the plot. Thai people spread Covid which has not registered, so up the Vax rate to those who want it, and let the others become part of the herd immunity.  Which needs to happen at some future point, or we'll all be stuck in a lockdown time bubble ad infinitum. 

As for tourists, most will go elsewhere to celebrate Xmas and the New Year. So focus on getting this country up and running again. 

You can't have your rich tourist cake and eat it, CCSA. In this case, it's more a question of how to attract these rich tourists with nothing happening, particularly at nightime?  

Number one action - restaurants and bars must be reopened to sell alcohol, like right now. See how that goes first before opening nightclub entertainment venues. 

Number two inaction - Try and understand it's Thais who are mainly spreading Covid, not visitors. As for farangs residing here, they make up less than 3/70 ths of the total population. which is yet another blame story.

On 11/6/2021 at 6:45 AM, jacko45k said:

The food and animal markets I saw in China were most certainly a likely source of infections!

Wern't they undercover, like some markets in Thailand. Pictures I saw on TV? 

As for Thailand, I'm talking about the open air markets in fields off the road, where fresh air can circulate. Apparently, Covid doesn't like that environment - same as sitting on a beach.  

I would bet a pound to a penny that the Thai shopping malls and major food stores like Big C, Lotus and Makro open to hundreds of people are venues where there would be a far greater risk.

On 11/4/2021 at 5:15 PM, sambum said:

Just remind me,  was the original source of Covid-19 not thought to be a food  market in Wuhan City, China?.

Time you moved on. The latest evidence  - not admitted by the Chinese - was from an infection  leak at the Wuhan research centre. As you could be well aware, they kept bats in their labs used for experimenting. 

It's a scientific plus that open air environments are not regarded as a major source of infection. It's enclosed places that are more likely to harbour the virus. Google it, if you're not convinced.

As for the continuing alcohol ban for restaurants  - not the massive hundred seater barbecue ones crowded by Thai families, but including small scale 'tourist ones', there ought to be a distinction between small and large, or no restrictions for all and sundry. 

Much too complicated for Thai government to process, though. Forget I posted this.

On 11/3/2021 at 10:45 AM, HaoleBoy said:

Yes, Covid cases are rising in CM at the open markets but still no where close to the BKK numbers.

I suggest the Covid cases are rising in Chiang Mai, owing to crowded shopping centres, malls and other large outlets, like Big C, Tesco, Macro and Banks under one roof, NOT open markets which are outside in the fresh air, and less likely to be any major source of spreading infection.

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Thailand was ready to fully improve its solutions to climate change and called for an end to the destruction of nature.

All  mouth and no trousers.

10 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Does vaccine immunity wear off in a few weeks? Nope. Even Pfizer only reduces to 50% after six months. Moderna drops by a percent. Moderna protected me from an infection a couple weeks ago, so it’s not worthless.

There is NO current vac immunity from Covid; by strengthening the immune system today's vaccs merely reduce the odds of becoming infected, and prevents the worst effects that could lead to hospitalization.

After suffering Covid, and recovering well, without long term effects, natural immunity is far superior than having to risk having booster vac shots every few months. I say risk, because the immune system, by being constantly under 'attack', could be adversely affected. 

The most at risk to themselves and others are none vaccinated, non/never-infected people who for various reasons choose to reject being vaccinated. 

1 hour ago, Chad3000 said:

What tripe.

 

 Bet you have three booster shots already.

Koh Tao is one island that has had several unexplained and horrific foreign deaths over the last few years - it's run by influential mafia families who are above the law. That is why it's known as Death island. Look it up on Google.

So it's not surprising they'd try and prosper from overcharging visitors - more important than their protection from Covid - that's if they need it - they have probably had had dozens of booster shots. 

2 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Tested  or  assuming? beacsue Ive spoken to two  people whi said theyve  had it............both not tested  so took it for what it was ie meaningless

If you could have seen the effects that my immune system had to fight off, you wouldn't be so quick off the mark.  Constently tired, feel like living in a fridge for three days with no clothes on, loss of sense of smell and taste, and a (arm/leg) skin attack that lasted two weeks. It wasn't flu or dengue, that's for sure.  

My low systolic blood pressure rose from 110 to 140 for about ten days - and for those unfortunates who have higher 'normal' initial readings, it's no wonder they get hospitalised. 

As for being tested, It's not my style to ever rely on these makeshift ones until the results have been tried and tested for many months as being accurate.    

2 hours ago, Bkktodd said:

Humm. Ok whatever. Everywhere it’s asked are you vaccinated. Not have you (been careless enough)to get covid.  Non vaxxed. …then stay away from me, my family , my pool,  btw. You can get covid again ….

So could you, even if vacced two times and had a booster.  Ask yourself WHY do you need a booster? It's to strenghten your immunity as are the vaccs - which are NOT vacccines that prevent you ever catching Covid..  That could happen in the future given time for medical science to develop a life-long vaccine.

That's the reality.

And if I have natural immunity it's not likely I'll be contagious or pass it on to you, your family or your pool would it.? 

1 hour ago, yogi yogi said:

not if the locals and we are vacced.  are u vacced?

The vacs are no more than boosting your immune system to diminish any infection and to avoid hospital treatment. You are NOT protected from catching the infection. This is a scientific truth that both governments and big Pharma won't reveal because there's no money to be made.

As for me, I have suffered Covid infection - however, my immune system was strong enough to repel it, despite a couple of weeks being attacked.

I therefore regard natural immunity as being superior to any vaccine, because it resists the whole kit and coboodle the virus would throw at me.  It is my understanding that the vaccines only block the spikes, not the complete attack.

15 hours ago, Chad3000 said:

What about transportation restrictions? Tried to go to Koh Tao a few weeks ago. They wanted a 3000b PCR test to board the boat.

Koh Tao - death island for foreigners, avoid at all costs. But those who attempt to go there run into lawless scams, as above.  

1 hour ago, The Hammer2021 said:

CM has been under curfew a long time before Covid-19. The police and army shut the bars down very heavy handedly..By 11 pm the streets are emptied and bars shuttered..

Yes, quite correct. Although, no doubt there are private clubs in mansions where anything still goes, as in Pattaya. 

As for restaurants not being lawfully permitted to serve alcohol - although some try the chinese teacup approach - from a Thai minister POV it's not the expats or tourists that are of any concern, but locals who used to rendezvous at large scale and inexpensive barbecue places which can hold hundreds of Thais during a session. 

But of course, a 'restaurant' is a 'restaurant' whatever the size... 

On 10/17/2021 at 3:12 PM, Tropicalevo said:

Unfortunately, the million or so people who no longer have jobs, money or food on the table do need them.

Well, you're well set up in Samui with options to visit 139 open restaurants selling alcohol. Presumably there are plenty of working men and women catering for your needs - and everyone else's.

This pandemic adversely affects all countries one way or another - we should be grateful for what we have, and accept what we can't change. 

1 hour ago, Tropicalevo said:

Unfortunately, the million or so people who no longer have jobs, money or food on the table do need them.

On 8/29/2021 at 5:20 AM, AwwYesNice1 said:

 

Sadly underpowered as the Jazz, but not as much.

I use it for town travel, and it's plenty quick off the blocks for me.  By the time these big roller-coasters get into gear, I'm gone.