jeffandgop

On 3/3/2024 at 11:27 AM, Georgealbert said:

KorRor 2 and KorRor 22 are very different documents.

 

KorRor 2 is the registration of a marriage in Thailand, if you get divorced in Thailand, it will show on the Thai system. This is done automatically by the Amphur data input.

 

KorRor 22 is the family status registration and is used to confirm that the legal marriage outside Thailand, is on the system. Foreign marriages are not automatically registered and you have to verify documents and register it yourself.

 

A foreign marriage, may require a foreign divorce, depending on the countries regulations, and again is not automatically registered in the Thai system. 

 

You are absolutely correct. If you were married outside of Thailand you need to go through the process to obtain a KorRor 22 to support extensions of stay based on marriage.  To this date I have never been required to obtain a "new" KorRor 22 as CM Immigration says a copy is sufficient.  There is NO requirement for obtaining a KorRor 2 if you have a KorRor 22 as the KorRor 2 is for when the marriage occurs WITHIN Thailand.

On 3/1/2024 at 9:12 AM, brianthainess said:

Agree and you also need a new KOR ROR 2 at most IO, from any Amphur that says you are still married.

At Chiang Mai immigration a photocopy of the original KorRor 22 is acceptable- no new KorRor required.....

On 3/1/2024 at 8:49 AM, Bangkok Barry said:

They will want exactly the same for your first renewal. And the second. And the third. And again and again until you die. Only the photos you submit need to be new. In the real world you notify authorities if something changes. In Thailand you have to inform them that nothing has changed. Especially applies to the utterly pointless 90 day reports.

Agree but at CM Immigration we've used photocopies of the same photos used the last 4 years....no new photos

12 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Very few agents deal with extensions based on Thai spouse.

Is the wife going with the agent because she has to also attend.
What about the Kor Ror 2 ?
Are you sure the agent was fully aware it's an extension based on Thai spouse ?

What did they quote ?

Answers to each of your latest comments:

Line 1- Interesting

Line 2- We've done the marriage extensions ourselves the last 4 years so we know she and I have to go together.

Line 3- We were married outside of Thailand so we don't have or need a KorRor 2 (or KorRor 3); we use a KorRor 22 and a U.S. embassy affidavit, translated into Thai, and stamped by the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs- all prerequisites to obtain a KorRor 22

Line 4- Yes

Line 5- 7000 exclusive of the 1900 fee accompanying the TM7 application.

3 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Not CM specific, but matching the same criteria as you, extension based on Thai spouse, using fixed deposit account from Bangkok bank, I've always updated the passbook on the day of the application and requested a 3-month bank statement issued on request, to comply with the requirement of proof of 400K for 2 months prior to the date of application.

Theoretically just an updated passbook should be sufficient as it provides the start and end dates of the fixed amount for a 12 month period, but current orders state a bank statement, so for 100BHT, I voluntarily also supply a 3-month bank statement.

 

Never had an issue.

Thanks for your input with your experience. I will note that that with obtaining a bank letter within 7 days of applying for the extension is also the time that I have the bank update the fix deposit bank book...that in and of itself captures any changes made to the account since the last update and will show interest earned, and/or deposits made, and/or withdrawals made (yes I know that may cause a loss of interest if done before term), as well as documenting the presence (or lack thereof) having the minimum funds of 400K 2 months prior to the date of EOS application.....I still can't figure why anyone is required to provide 6 or 12 months worth of statements for this EOS situation when there is no requirement to have any amount of funds in any bank account whatsoever until 2 months prior to applying for the extension; and which funds can be withdrawn entirely immediately after receiving immigrations stamp of another year's extension in your passport....that is a question I may ask the CM IO to clarify/explain when I go for my EOS later this month...

9 hours ago, worgeordie said:

OK.,if you know, why bother asking , good luck hope everything goes ok for you .

 

regards worgeordie

 

 

Your responses didn't answer what I asked in my original post, nor did it take into account the specific circumstances of my immigration status.  I laid out those circumstances so that anyone who matched my immigration status might be able to state whether or not they were required to provide bank statements.  In fact, no one who participated actually provided the information I was seeking.

But that's OK. I appreciate your interest.

6 hours ago, worgeordie said:

It does not have to be a regulation , it's what the IO says it is , not all offices 

require this ,some only 6 months , the 12 month requirement came about when

Big Joke came to Chiang Mai Immigration to clear up the corruption that was

going on there at the time, 

 

People were using agents , who were putting the 400 K or 800 K into the bank

of the people who were using the agent for only one day ,till they got the Visa

then taking it back , so they were getting extensions/visa with no money in the bank.

 

So if you don't believe anyone go to the IO and ask them , you might prove yourself

right or not , at least you will get it from the horse's mouth ....

 

regards worgeordie

I don't need to ask Chiang Mai immigration.  12 years of using a fixed deposit account to support extensions of stay here in Chiang Mai based on retirement (first 7 years) and then switched to marriage to a Thai national (last 5 years). Never had to provide statements. Never had to add any money to the account just prior to submitting the EOS request to CM Immigration. Only the fixed deposit bank book and the bank letter demonstrating the amount of the deposit on the date shown is current and correct.

I don't know or speak of any immigration office other than the only one I've ever interfaced with- Chiang Mai Immigration.

Is it possible that the requirement for bank statements is true for those here on an O Visa (i.e., visa obtained in Thailand)?  I originally arrived on an O-A Visa (obtained outside Thailand).  

We know those who have O-A Visa for retirement are required to have evidence of health insurance  but that is not required for those who received their O Visa for retirement within Thailand....

17 hours ago, worgeordie said:

You need 12 months statement ,like the Agents and I have already told you, 

Your at Bangkok Bank , you need to ask for statement 5-7 days before you

need it ,as has to come from Bangkok head office  cost 200 Baht

 

regards worgeordie

I would like to read the regulation that requires this- I've never been asked for bank statements for a fixed account for an EOS based on marriage derivative from an O-A Visa entry. So support why you say so when I've reported I've never had to provide these bank statements- only requirement was to have 400K in a Thai bank 2 months prior to submitting the request for the EOS. TIA

And as the regulation only requires 400k in the bank 2 months prior to applying what is the regulation that dictates 12 months worth of statements and is there a minimum balance required?  The demand for a year of statements makes sense for retirement EOS where there are full year of minimum balances required but not for EOS based on marriage to  a Thai. 

This concerns Chiang Mai Immigration only.

In the last 4 years of submitting the paperwork for an extension of stay based on marriage (originally entered on an O-A Non Immigrant Visa based on retirement), when it came to verifying the required funds deposited into a Thai bank of a minimum of $400K 2 months prior to applying, I have always had the minimum necessary in a Bangkok Bank Fixed Account. In fact this fixed account was originally opened in 2019.

For the Chiang Mai IO, they have always wanted to see the fixed account bank passbook and the letter from the bank verifying those same funds and the account.  I have NEVER been required to provide any monthly bank statements for this fixed account.  This year I have decided to engage an agency, and in contacting 2 agencies, they insist I now need to also provide 12 months of bank statements as well!  Note the funding requirement is only to show proof of no less than 400K in the bank for 2 months prior to applying for the EOS.

Has anyone been confronted with this requirement to provide bank statements to support an extension of stay based on marriage using a fixed (not savings) account?

No dates open for February, or March, or April, or May- that's a range of about 7-100 days in advance of today not allowed to make an appointment!  Am trying to use the Chiang Mai reservation calendar BTW...and yes, Extension of Stay (EOS).  Have used the reservation system successfully before too....

Just tried to make a reservation for end of March to do my EOS.  My current extension expires near the end of April.  All reservation dates in February, March, April and May were "not available".....is the online reservation system now not operating?

I'm a U.S. citizen residing full time in Thailand.  I am required to file a U.S. federal tax return where my income is principally private pension and Social Security.  Under the US-Thailand DTA, social security income is exempt from Thai taxation.  As for my pension, I end up with no U.S. tax liability for that income, as my total income level (combined social security and pension) is less than the minimum required to pay any taxes on my income, after deductions and allowances.  Does Thailand have a claim for taxation on the pension when I remit funds from my U.S. bank to my Thailand bank? (Putting aside my U.S. bank receives both Social Security AND pension payments into the same account, the RD would have no way of knowing what amount of the remittance derives from either social security and/or pension......)

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We used Chiang Mai Removals to move from Bangkok to Chiang Mai and a year later again when we changed to a different home in Chiang Mai.

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I received my 7162 from the SSA on 20June. I returned it via Registered airmail 23June. This is the last tracking info I ever received:

May wife received her 7162 from the SSA on 3 July. She returned it via Registered airmail 5 July. This is the last tracking info she ever received:

Her mailing got what we paid for; don't know if mine ever made it......

On 7/1/2023 at 6:04 PM, brianthainess said:

Letter Of Residence from Immigration. (it is not a Certificate as some people call it) its a letter.

The Thai Immigration residency verification form I had to use to obtain a DL is titled "Appliccation (sic) Form Residence Certificate In Thailand".  See pics from the form issued/required by CM Immigration.

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9 hours ago, Pib said:

Then that means her benefit was based totally/partially on her earning record instead of yours...not really a pure spousal pension like you mentioned in your post.

 

If she did "not" work at least 10 years/earn 40 SS credits then she could have got a spousal pension based "totally" on your earning record which results in the SSA using your SSN and assigning a "B" BIC code for her pension claim.

 

But if she got some type of "partial" spousal "top-up" amount to add onto the basic pension amount she earns from her earnings record then "her" SSN is used along with an "A" BIC code.   And this also means with a BIC of "A" she will get a 7162 every year.

 

 

All of that we know. Took the SSA 12 weeks to approve her benefit then another 4 weeks to approve her spousal benefit. Should be processed together. But my point was sending her to complete a 7162 only a month after her benefits began is ridiculous. 

1 hour ago, Pib said:

And her 7162 has "your" SSN on it with a BIC of "B"?

 

Additionally, the last two digits of SSN on the 7162 ends between 50 to 99?   

 

 

Hi Pib.
No. It has her SSN & a BIC of”A” and ends in 27

Took the SSA 17 weeks to approve my wife’s entitlement to her spousal retirement. They did not even initiate their activities until 10 weeks after submitting the application, missed their own telephone mandated appointment, did not respond to emails, etc. 

Her first benefit payment was made/received May 3. But SSA didn’t hesitate to send the 7162 form to demand she verify her still breathing status only 1 month after! Received her Form 7162 dtd June 2 today……

Received mine today in Chiang Mai

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They're not, it only applies to mobile banking, so far.  Presumably because that's where the vast majority of frauds/scams are perpetrated.

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