jeffandgop

2 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

The whole purpose is proof you are still alive - this requires your signature and a witness.  Anyone could submit an electronic form.  Indeed an alternative might be personal appearance before US Consulate official - but for many/most that would be worse than mail.  Covid has messed up international mail beyond belief - with any luck that is over.

Witness?  Where do you get that requirement.  And the SSA uses electronic signature to apply for benefits; so why can't they do the same for the 7162 form?????????

On 11/19/2022 at 7:11 PM, Pib said:

And I fully expect all forms the SSA "received" in July were processed shortly after receipt. 

 

But if the mail system, specifically the USPS, is not getting the 7162s delivered to the SSA within a few weeks but many times taking months, well, the SSA can't process what they don't receive.

Yet a completed 1st notice form sent to the SSA FROM a US Post Office in California in late Aug/early Sept, and yet receiving that 2nd notice dated up to 8 weeks after I mailed the first one from California?

On 11/17/2022 at 3:08 PM, KhunLA said:

FedEx, UPS, DHL is no guarantee either, as they lose stuff also.  Especially at Xmas time when using part time temporary help.  One of those krap jobs I had ????

 

If OP knows someone in states, could send to them, and they could forward registered USPS, then would have a receipt.

No guarantee that’ll work either. I sent my first notice response from a Post Office in California in August and yet got the 2nd notice dated 17 October last week

I received the first notice/7162 in July and as I was traveling to the U.S. in August I took it with me and mailed it from a USPO facility- using the addressed envelope provided with the 7162.  Last week I received the damn second notice; so thinking you're safe mailing it within the U.S. is not a guarantee.  I suspect my first form arrived fine but hasn't been processed due to volume.  I'll be sending that second notice by Thai airmail...

18 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

If you want proof it was sent you could send it by international registered mail (325 baht) or by express mail for about 1600 baht.

Well I received a 2nd Request dated Oct 27.  What really frosts me is I received the 1st Request dated June 27 and as I was traveling to the U.S. in late August I took the completed form and mailed it back to the SSA from a U.S. Post Office in California the beginning of September!!!!

On 11/14/2022 at 12:56 PM, racyrick said:

Well, it's now November 14th and not a single report that anyone has received a second form 7161 or 7162.

 

Very weird. I wonder if SSA has changed their procedure for this year. Of course, no updated info from SSA.

Well I received a 2nd Request dated Oct 27.  What really frosts me is I received the 1st Request dated June 27 and as I was traveling to the U.S. in late August I took the completed form and mailed it back to the SSA from a U.S. Post Office in California the beginning of September!!!!

3 hours ago, NotEinstein said:

All I know is what they tell me and years of doing exactly that - No queuing or getting a number, just going directly to window 3.

Which was the same instruction for me. I was quite surprised that I had to que up. So lesson is that service is not guaranteed regardless of the hour or IMM commitment 

On 10/28/2022 at 7:26 AM, NotEinstein said:

I've always been told, including this year, to get the Final Stamp after 13:00 - it seems you have given good example as to why they say that.

Yeah?  I went at 1pm on my appointed day to pick up my marriage EOS stamp and still had to get a que number and waited 2 ½ hours in a totally full crowded facility just to get that stamp. 

We live in Doi Saket.  2 separate up and down jolts. 

Could there be a difference in O & OA Non Immigrant EOS in when a TM 30 is required for those returning to Thai to the same address? I didn’t need one for my recent EOS based on marriage (OA Visa originally)

On 9/8/2022 at 5:34 PM, paddyfield7 said:

I know that the vast majority on this forum believes that TM30 is no longer required if you return from abroad and to the domicile previously registered, and this would include Chiang Mai. This may apply to many other provinces, but I do live in Chiang Mai, returned from Europa on 4th July 2022, reported my return the same day, and got issued a new TM30 as per picture below. I wonder why Chiang Mai Immigration would still do that if it was no longer a legal  requirement also in this province.

Could it be that it is not required but since you went to CM IMM to report they processed it anyway?  I just returned last night from being outside the country with my re entry permit going back to my same residence of 10 years and don’t plan to report 

5 minutes ago, Lite Beer said:

You will still need to make a small deposit on the day you get the letter.

my application was rejected a few years ago because of this.

I had to go back to the bank and make a small deposit and get another letter.

While you had your bank data rejected, I've always- for the last 10 years- used a Fix Deposit Account and NEVER have I had to make a deposit.  The updated bank book and letter were all that has been required.

Maybe it's related to Blinkin's visit to Thailand...senior consulate staff need to attend meetings in Bangkok & Consulate will re-open after the Secretary of State departs?

Got mine 2 days ago. Appreciated that information re regular airmail being faster than registered. 
Inasmuch I’ll be in the US for a brief visit soon I’ll be taking my form w me and mailing it while I am there

Go to Thonglor Animal Hospital- Outer Ring near Meechok Plaza.  Highly skilled staff and this is in their wheelhouse. When a tumor was removed from our dog 2 months ago, they then referred us to the Small Animal Hospital for further treatment (the tumor was determined to be high grade cancer)- also good. (Our dog is doing well, no sign of cancer spreading)

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1 hour ago, Robin said:

You need an update dated for the day you do the extension.  This means you have to deposit or withdraw some money, min. 100B, from the account on that day.  other than that, you only need to keep a minimum of 800,000 in the account for at least the last 3 months.  I/O will most probably want to see a copy of your bank passbook with an update on the day of your extension, hence the need for a transaction on that day.

I suggest you make an appointment with your bank for them to give you all the info you need on the morning of your extension, and then go straight to I/O with all the stuff.  If possible, leave time for another visit to your bank if the I/O is being picky and wants to make your life difficult.

Also easiest if you visit I/O before and get an appointment to do this extension and get the I/O to give you a list of required documents to show the bank.

Sounds like some banks won’t  update your FD passbook without a deposit. Then you certainly would have to do that. But if your bank, like my Bangkok Bank is, they’ll update the FD passbook upon request without having to make any deposit or withdrawal 

1 hour ago, Aforek said:

you are lucky, not like this with SCB, you have to put and take money to have an update 

My FD is with Bangkok Bank

13 hours ago, BritTim said:

I have read several reports of people successfully doing 90-day report by mail to Bangkok Immigration, although their extension was issued elsewhere, and their residence is not in Bangkok. I do not recall reports of doing it in person in Bangkok when not living there, but maybe that is possible too.

Where one obtained their extension of stay is immaterial to where you must send or physically report your 90 days notification. The immigration office which is responsible for the address where you reported your notification of residence (TM30) is where one must report to in person or by mail. Doing the 90 days report online facilitates being able to report from anywhere you may be; however the address stipulated in your 90 days report must be the same as your TM30 or your 90 days notification may not be approved. That has been my experience for the last 11 years 

Your 90 days notification (TM47) must be submitted to the Immigration Office (“cognizant”) which you reported your TM30 Notification of Residence.

In practice you can submit your online 90 days notification from any location you may be at the time. If you choose to submit your 90 days report by mail, you must send it to the cognizant Immigration Office. If you choose to submit the 90 days report in person it can only be accomplished at said cognizant Immigration Office. 
As I learned last October when I was vacationing in Koh Samui and visited the Immigration Office there, they first refused to take action due to the fact my current TM30 established my residence as being in Chiang Mai. 
Ultimately the Samui IO processed my 90 days report but only after they amended my TM30 record as now residing in Koh Samui. 
When I returned to my home in Chiang Mai I then went online and updated again my TM30 record as residing in Chiang Mai. In January I processed my 90 days report online without any problem. 

3 hours ago, TravelerEastWest said:

I haven't looked at tax laws in many years but I can tell you for sure that something said over the phone is not binding for all and probably not for you.

 

Even if a court rules in a certain way it is not normally binding for everyone. As an example if the 9th circuit rules against the IRS they will tend to follow the courts ruling only in the area that it has jurisdiction over not the whole US.

 

Looking at IRS regulations can be very helpful and looking at legislative history can shed light on what lawmakers intended.

 

Ujongjoe has given you good advice...

 

 

I don’t know what your experience reading tax laws might be but I do know you didn’t read my posts either.  The IRS supervisor whom I spoke with had my “rejected “ amended returns reviewed again and those were approved and back taxes paid were refunded to me. Two other amended returns were also accepted and refunds were provided.  I did not seek anyone’s verbal advice or opinion; I asked the IRS to explain their initial rejections claiming no tax treaty had been cited in my amended returns. That resulted in the IRS re-reviewing and accepting all 4 amended returns and refunding those taxes previously paid. 

On 3/5/2022 at 8:44 AM, soi3eddie said:

For the sake of 5 minutes on the computer I file my own TM30 each time I enter the contry. Print it out and put it in the passport. Never do it if having stayed at hotels etc. during period since last entry to the country. Not had any problems. Ask your immigration office to set you or your wife up on the TM30 system so that you can do it yourself. This wouldn't work if you rent your place though as landlord would need to file.

 

I have been doing my own TM30’s online as well. When I checked the database a month ago all of my records had disappeared. 

On 3/5/2022 at 6:35 PM, ujongjoe said:

If the tax maneuver is already getting nastygrams from from the IRS, it is unlikely that the IRS concurs with this interpretation, rather, they may have decided it isn’t a priority to pursue… yet.
 

Until they actually issue a ruling, you are skating on thin ice. it sure smells like a BIG reach based on a technicality, and the intent of the savings clause sure seems to be a claw back.

 

Rulings are typically issued based on “what is the intent” — and I can’t see how there would be any intent to let an RMD go tax free. I don’t mind being a little aggressive with my tax filing within reasonability, but this seems more far more bold than that. That is just my take.

Thats one specious argument. As I wrote earlier I received 2 letters from the IRS rejecting 2 amended returns. The letters stated that I had not cited the treaty/proper treaty. I chose to contact the IRS to do a check on my tax preparers submittals and that call resulted in a quick affirmation by the IRS my amended returns were proper and correct. Clearly the IRS DID concur the application of the treaty to my returns were correct and NOT something that they decided to “pursue later”

1 hour ago, JimGant said:

Well, maybe because it sounds too good to be true if, the only country in the world where you can retire and not pay any US (or Thai) taxes on the proceeds of your traditional IRA (401k, SEP), is Thailand....

What proof can you furnish that no other U.S. tax filer in any of the other foreign countries with similar tax treaties haven't filed similar exemptions and have been rejected- or not rejected?