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9 hours ago, DrTuner said:

The correlation is more likely to do with the speed of response. Counterattacking fast and early prevented spreading. In case of Thailand, I think they had a large wave in November-February but dismissed it as usual pneumonia. They diagnosed the first one in early January, first after China. Then they got lucky with the timeline, even with their very delayed closing up, when tourism died from the sending end.

But if the speedy response is to do nothing (or little), then what difference does the speed make?  my point is that the virus has hit areas of the world differently and I have yet to see any data that shows correlational to policy implementation,  Further, there has been no colorization to just about anything else.   even stating "Thailand and Japan slowed the spread as they wear masks and dont shake hands" doesnt explain why the virus spread so quickly in China where they have similar culture etiquette.  

remember, the whole justification for shutting everything down was to flatten the curve.  now hospitals all over the world are seeing usually light foot traffic yet we are still locked away.    its all about control

Need to get those numbers up, otherwise there will be no excuse for keeping people imprisoned in their homes

16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Your complaint which is reflective of course of large numbers of people and understandably so is classic push back to public health measures. If people think they are too harsh and the case counts seem low to have justified such harsh measures, that's an indication that the level of measures were pretty good. Nobody can expect perfection. Look at the USA for example. If they had taken harsh measures many weeks earlier, it wouldn't have the highest number of deaths in the world. But people wouldn't have accepted very harsh measures when they didn't see cases. From the public health POV, they almost can't win. People will complain no matter what, even when what they're doing works!

There has been no correlation between measures taken by governments and the number of deaths.  There have been high death counts in areas with strict measures (NYC), and high death counts in areas with little to no measures (Sweden).  There have been low death counts in areas with strict measures (Thailand), and low death counts in areas with little to no measures (Japan). 

If they are in a "no win" situation, then let freedom ring!  Id rather die of my own bad decisions than of a decision enforced on me by the barrel of a gun.  

I wonder when they are going to let this go already.  Anyone with eyes can see the response was over blown.  All the original estimates were wrong (and they included "if we did what they said), 

These people crave the spot light and dont want to let it go.  

Wait, did people actually think that he believes the BS he is slinging?  These rules are for the servants not the masters.  

excellent use of funds.  confiscating peoples money to ensure that rubber is "the proper price" helps society in so many ways. 

Now more videos of other officers around the country committing similar acts are coming out.  He should be charged with murder (and convicted) but the problem is not racism or the current media narrative.  The problem is the system.  These officers are trained to take these actions which is why so many officers stood their and watched.  This officer was following protocol.  People have every right to be mad, police kill people every day in every country.  It would be great if the anger was directed at the state itself.  The state is the one who wrote the laws, the state is the one who confiscated the money to fund the police, the state is the one who wrote the standard operating procedures, the state is the one who arm these thugs and outfit them in military attire.  

Until people wake up and realize that its not the individuals but the entity of the state that is the source of this needless violence, people will continue to be killed and maimed in broad daylight.  Had someone tried to step in and stop this assault they would have been arrested for "obstruction of justice" and possibly shared George's ultimate fate.  If a group of civilians continually acted in this fashion we would call to disband that entity.  But since its the state we fright amongst  ourselves.  Team red and team blue are already pointing fingers at each other and distracting most everybody from the actual problem.  

54 minutes ago, unheard said:

20% peanuts?

What's the percentage of people dependent for their livelihood?

Definitely more than that. Mostly poor and the least protected of the society.

Besides stop the fear-mongering about the USA's covid situation.

By now they're probably one of the safest country in the world regarding the virus.

Why? Cause they've build up enough of the herd immunity to basically call the pandemic over, especially in cities like New York.

Their inability to impose restrictions allowed the virus freely propagate throughout the city.

Look at the numbers now - the virus is done.

The US media was blowing the situation out of proportion due to the open season on Trump.

 

 

Stop using statistics and logic or you want people to die

Its actually not a terrible idea, if i was coming in and needed to be quarantined id like the option.  For sure would not want stuck in the cheapest hotel the government could find.

1 hour ago, DrTuner said:

Is there such a thing as government junk bonds? Issue enough of them and there you go, 1.9 trillion free money. Until the bonds default.

Yes, the term "junk bond" simply means a low credit rating, typically BBB or lower.  Many counties are in "junk" status.

7 hours ago, Misterwhisper said:

Even more puzzling, then, why the THB continues to be so strong although the economic situation apparently is in such shambles. Something stinks.

 

 

Because the Fed and ECB are printing money in quantities that is unprecedented.  I know "unprecedented" has been thrown around a lot recently.   But I am using the literal definition in this case. 

Its not the Baht getting stronger, its the dollar, yen, euro etc all getting much weaker

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Total paranoia. 

They'll ask people to get tested and possibly self isolate. 

You don't need symptoms to have it. 

Then what is the purpose of all this?  

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200402-sitrep-73-covid-19.pdf

"there has been no documented asymptomatic transmission"

The point of this is to isolate people who may be infected right?  Has anyone thought this through?

im curious what people are going to do/think when the actually try to enforce the repercussions.  What exactly will people do when a government official shows up at their home and tells them "come with us., we need to separate you from your family because you may have the virus."  What if the person doesnt have the virus and you put them in a place with a bunch of people who DO have it?  How many of you cheering this on will willingly get in a government detention center and be confident the government (same ones who handle your visa applications) will take better care of you then your own family?  

I can already hear the response of "they are just going to check to see if you have symptoms."  What if you happen to have an unrelated cold? And if that is all they are doing what is the point?  If you have symptoms of covid you should see a doctor anyway.

This is complete insanity.

11 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Every reason to blame something else instead of the truth.... the economy & lack of tourism was already sliding before Corvid 19 came along for the perfect excuse for the governments monumental screw-up of the country.

This is exactly what is happening world wide.  Governments all over the globe are using this as a scapegoat for their past incompetence and failed policies.   

How about letting people get on with their lives and the rest will sort itself out.  The only thing the government can do to help is get out of the way.

If your concerned about traffic then Bangkok is probably not the best place for your to live.

I have a feeling its less to do with the reasons stated and more to do with their own property value.  More new supply means lower prices for their units/houses.  

Be interesting to see if these are the same people complaining about lack of housing 30 years from now like in many major cities in the USA (SF comes to mind).

10 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

so you would want Thailand to have the 30000 dead like the UK prior to social distancing? 

Another one with the "you want people to die" if you do an honest assessment of the situation.  Stop attributing motives you look foolish and without a proper argument.  

Perfect example of the stupidity of government.  To think a small group of people would be able to guess the nber of eggs needed rather than allowing the free market to run its course.

Now there million chickens will be killed.  What a waste

My mobile phone is now officially a home phone.  Just went to 7/11 and saw all the sheople scanning their phones like there is nothing creepy about this.

Is sad that many think this is actually for their benefit.  You would think after a lifetime of every government action being beneficial only to the government and the corporations they serve people would be more skeptical.

I mark "a" name down

Perfect example of how these laws can be abused by people in position  of "authority.". 

Next time someone says "if your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about" to one of these asinine rules think of this.  Same is going to happen with the contract tracing and other BS things they are trying to push throgg

It amazes me they never think to make it easier on people who want to stay here more long term and spend their money.

10x more.costly to gain a new customer than to secure an old one