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http://www.dw.de/gases-caused-near-disaster-on-german-plane/a-16274783
It happened before, it could have happened again - and poisoned the co-pilot in the cockpit of flight U4 9525.
That's what an expert said in German TV (Tagesschau).
Better be careful before you call someone a lunatic.
Captain poisoned the co-pilot? Lol, what kind of lunacy is that and where are the fact to support that theory? Common sense here. FO was a nut job, unstable and about to have his ticket pulled. The facts are simple. Captain encouraged to leave. He left. Door then locked and plane immediately put into a controlled fairly steep dive until plowing into a mountain. So you think the captain poisoned this loser POS that killed a bunch of innocent people and children, the poisoned victim then locked the door, programmed a nose dive and neither told ATC or anyone he was all off sudden stricken by sickness or no sounds consistent with the same . . . Whateva.
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So, you'd suggest that in modern society everyone should be suspected to be a lunatic?
Maybe just the ones above a certain IQ?
(please be informed that up to now it's still not clear if the crash was maybe caused by technical defects and/or organizational failures)
you are absolutely right, since the copilot was heard breathing on the cockpit voice recorder, I guess there was a technical problem with his speech and motor ability, since he was apparently unable to talk and unable to move...
and didn't you already disprove yourself your theory about IQ and being a lunatic?
Yes, I cannot understand why some still doubt the investigation as they would not have taken such a position so quickly had the evidence not been extremely compelling.
The transcripts are apparently being released and shows that the lunatic FO encouraged Captain to go to the restroom. 2 minutes later, he told the FO to take over. Immediately after he left and the door closed, the FO puts the plane in a fairly steep nose down dive. Literally, within a few seconds, the door is locked and the nose drops after the Captain exits. Where the heck is the technical defects in that. Some are just talking out their lower orifice without any facts or evidence to substantiate.
He did not put the plane in a "steep nose down dive". This would have caused the plane to exceed Mmo/Vmo - M 0,82/350kts. Selecting alt 0 with autopilot on resulted in a smooth approx. 5deg nose down attitude which made the plane lose 1000m altitude per 10km flight path while keeping the airspeed below Mmo/Vmo. Any steeper would have resulted in overspeeding and an automatic pitch up command by the flight computers. And one can be sure that the captain would certainly not have politely knocked on the door if he - and the passengers - had noticed the plane descend.
edit: grammar
5 degrees would have been noticeable. Thanks for the lesson, but I have a commercial & ME and brother ex fighter pilot with many type ratings on privates and father flew jumbos. Fairly steep is a subjective term. Nice leaving the fairly out but admitting any steeper would have resulted in overspeed . . . Taking what you say at face value means he put it in as steep of a nose down dive as possible. You arguing an issue of semantics, but for what purpose I don't know . . . as it had very little to do with the point of my post.
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So, you'd suggest that in modern society everyone should be suspected to be a lunatic?
Maybe just the ones above a certain IQ?
(please be informed that up to now it's still not clear if the crash was maybe caused by technical defects and/or organizational failures)
you are absolutely right, since the copilot was heard breathing on the cockpit voice recorder, I guess there was a technical problem with his speech and motor ability, since he was apparently unable to talk and unable to move...
and didn't you already disprove yourself your theory about IQ and being a lunatic?
Yes, I cannot understand why some still doubt the investigation as they would not have taken such a position so quickly had the evidence not been extremely compelling.
The transcripts are apparently being released and shows that the lunatic FO encouraged Captain to go to the restroom. 2 minutes later, he told the FO to take over. Immediately after he left and the door closed, the FO puts the plane in a fairly steep nose down dive. Literally, within a few seconds, the door is locked and the nose drops after the Captain exits. Where the heck is the technical defects in that. Some are just talking out their lower orifice without any facts or evidence to substantiate.
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Yep, here are Publics kind of people at working being . . . POS thugs, waste of air . . .
So, Pulicus. Do you think your man Holder or Obama will speak out against this attack or classify this as a hate crime. Nope, they don't care. So who really are the racists?
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Police investigators say a white male was riding a St. Louis MetroLink train on Monday night when he was approached by a group of black men and asked what he thought about the Aug. 9, 2014, shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri. Chaos quickly ensued.
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As you know they don't release the names just the number of passengers by country
As you would know, they would contact family members or family members can contact their hot line and ask if their loved ones were on board. That is what my post stated. If I suspected my brother sister was on the flight, I would be calling airline or hot line to confirm.
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So you maybe don't care about this incident but I do, I am waiting for my sister
to contact me but she has not done yet I do not know if she was on that flight
I can't get any answers I rang for the past 2 days but no answer
??? You don't know if your sister was on the flight because you have not talked to her for two days? I have not talked to my brother for two days, but I am not concerned he was on that flight. Surely you could call their hotline if you are a family member and truly concerned. Truly sorry if this is legit and not a pathetic attention ploy.
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Searches of his home reflect pilot was being treated for ongoing illness that would have deemed him unfit for work and he apparently destroyed some records in his possession relating to this condition. They have found no evidence that anything was religious or politically motivated. Appears to be a just a selfish act from a selfish person with no cojones.
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of course that is what the white house would want to say and obviously do.
Imagine what happens when people are too scared to fly.
WTH does not mean? Little voices in head?
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The Germanwings co-pilot who flew his Airbus into a French mountainside, killing all 150 aboard, suffered serious depression, a German newspaper reported, raising new questions over how he was cleared to fly.
The black box voice recorder shows that Andreas Lubitz locked his captain out of the cockpit on Tuesday and deliberately sent Flight 4U 9525 into the Alps, French officials say, in what appears to have been an act of suicide and mass murder.Initial portraits of the co-pilot painted a well-liked man, a fitness fanatic who lived with his parents in a leafy, upscale street in the west German town of Montabaur. But a troubled man hid behind that guy-next-door image, said by German officials to be 27.And you believe Bild? The worst newspaper in the world for making up stories and lying
This article is very troubling if true. History of depression, prohibited from flying certain routes, recently cleared to fly Europe, trouble with girlfriend of 7 years . . . What little F'er to exact his little wimpy arrssee I am upset because my girlfriend doesn't like my whinny butt think I will give up loser mentality on innocent people and children.
Little sissy . . . Oh, I cannot handle it. My girlfriend is upset with me and life is so horrible being a pilot with a great future and from a wealthy family so I think I will just kill a bunch of people to make my suicide show them. F wad.
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Huh??? I would imagine that most pilots with an ATP flying a 320 could barrel roll most planes. A lot of pilots have a military background. A barrel roll is not a difficult maneuver.Take a look at the beautiful airmanship in this video.
Try doing this in an A320.
You wouldn't even be able to find a driver that knows how to make it happen lol
My father went through first Eastern 727 school in mid-60s, flew the 727 and 1011 for Eastern and retired flying DC10s and MD11s for Fed Ex. Father did barrel rolls in the 727 back in the early days when Eastern carried freight. A Fed Ex pilot barrel rolled a DC10 in the 90s to knock a hijacker down.
I bet I could barrel roll a 727 . . . I only have about 500 hours, but done barrel rolls in 172, Citabria, clipped wing Cub, Pitts and etc. and spent considerable time flying left seat in 727 sims while father instructed FEs. Easy low G maneuver.
You still hear occasional stories about pilots, especially commuter RJs, doing barrel rolls when empty.
RE: Crash
RIP. Sad world we live in. Confirming a deliberate act on TV right now.
Everything you said I agree with except the barrel roll in the a320. It can't be done, the computers won't allow it.
THATS MY POINT MATE.....the computer won't allow it and that's not something that you can toggle off.....it's inbuilt.
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My apologies then. I thought you were saying pilots today liked the skills to do one. If you notice, I never said barrel rolls in a 320 as I was unsure if electronics could be disengaged sufficiently to get it inverted without intervention.
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Take a look at the beautiful airmanship in this video.
Try doing this in an A320.
You wouldn't even be able to find a driver that knows how to make it happen lol
Huh??? I would imagine that most pilots with an ATP flying a 320 could barrel roll most planes. A lot of pilots have a military background. A barrel roll is not a difficult maneuver.
My father went through first Eastern 727 school in mid-60s, flew the 727 and 1011 for Eastern and retired flying DC10s and MD11s for Fed Ex. Father did barrel rolls in the 727 back in the early days when Eastern carried freight. A Fed Ex pilot barrel rolled a DC10 in the 90s to knock a hijacker down.
I bet I could barrel roll a 727 . . . I only have about 500 hours, but done barrel rolls in 172, Citabria, clipped wing Cub, Pitts and etc. and spent considerable time flying left seat in 727 sims while father instructed FEs. Easy low G maneuver.
You still hear occasional stories about pilots, especially commuter RJs, doing barrel rolls when empty.
RE: Crash
RIP. Sad world we live in. Confirming a deliberate act on TV right now.
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Maybe he thought ISIS would be more democratic or figured he'd still be getting paid by the US.
That aside religious fervour has no positive characteristics.
Too funny! What it must be like to be inside that brain. I wish I was more devote in my faith. Those I see and know have a great inner peace and don't let all this ridiculous background noise and chatter distract them from what is really important in the world.
Lol, starting think I am the real loser letting background chatter such as this here occupy my time and thoughts and even thinking it worthwhile at any level to consider debating whether ISIS is more democratic than the US.
Let him join or don't let him join. Arrest him or don't arrest him. Execute or don't execute him. Why the F do we care!!! Why is it any of our business? Why the heck do we think we have any control over what happens here or what others think about it
Lol, people like you are making me realize I should just get a life and focus in the positives in life. the world will take care of itself without my help!
Thanks my man. Think I will officially retire my moniker and from my duties of trying to solve the world's problems. Ciao baby!
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Nope just a murderer. You convey the dangerous racist mentality that keeps countries sick. You automatically jump to the conclusion only a black would kill a cop or only a black would get executed for killing a cop. Your mind jumps to race before examine objective facts. That is racist be it direct or reverse and is exactly why rwcist idiots were looting and burning businesses in Ferguson.Black?
BS. The man asked a simple question. Stow your bias and stay focused on the point.
Nope, the man was trying to infuse race into a non-racial issue.
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Anyone committing murder is brain damaged to some extent.
Seriously? Do you mean ending a life? What is the definition of murder... approval by majority? What is the definition of killing and receiving the Congressional Medal of Honor... approval by majority?
Not arguing here, but I suspect that you meant more than what this simple and obtuse statement implies.
Things can get quite confusing out there, yes? 555
Cheers and Respect.
Nope. If you cannot see the difference, the problem is your or you are just being obtuse.
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Anyone committing murder is brain damaged to some extent.
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Please let them go. Why the heck are we brining them back to burn up resources and pay money to house these losers POSs?
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It seems as if we all read the same OP and our preconceived notions simply take over our logic. This OP is first of all an Associated Press release and do you really think the White House press secretary would allow a release that does not represent their position on the matter? Never gonna happen. This release was about the Crimea and nobody ever denied or claimed there were no Russian soldiers in Crimea. They had a treaty which allowed 25,000 in the country, this OP claims 20,000. Putin simply states there were 20,000 which was allowed under the treaty. This is essentially a non issue.
The fact that both Hollande and Merkle backed off of Putin after an 8 hour meeting speaks volumes.
AP bowing to the wishes of Obama and his administration. What kind of alternate reality do you live in. AP hates Obama and is currently suing the state department. Keep telling yourself this stuff though as it apparently serves some purpose for you.
BTW, Merkel is fed up with Putin at this point. Yes, everyone including Obama wants the cease fire to hold up, but Merkel has said numerous times that all bets are off and stiffer sanctions are coming if Putin tries to grab Mariupol. Merkel and Hollande have not backed off Putin in fashion. Everyone, including the US, wants the cease fire to stick for numerous reasons.
Yes, I know your mind will tell you otherwise just like your mind convinced you that the AP allows Obama's administration to screen or approve what it reports . . . Some things, however, cannot be fixed with reasons, evidence or reality . . .
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Dumb arrssee! Bye, bye. Claiming all politicians are like this scum bag is as dumb as this guy.
I do know politicians that are ego driven and self serving. I, however, know many that are genuinely really good people that live their state and country and that have good and honorable ideas. These people fall on both sides of the isle and out number the greedy, self centered, ego driven disgraces we get from time to time.
Fact remains, all countries have their fair share of ego driven, self absorbed and self centered politicians. I, however, believe that the US checks and balances and I eyesight committees does much more to keep things in check than many other countries.
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And stepping down real quick in the hope the investigation loses jurisdiction.....I wonder why"He said he had given the people of his Peoria-area district his all since his election in 2008" sounds more like he took his all since 2008.
Just another piratical right wing nut crowing his thefts are "just a terrible misunderstanding, but I'm stepping down for the sake of the greater nation" -- (which means -- "Im taking the money and running!".
.Typical Rep....but too young and inexperienced to have hidden his loot like his colleagues.
Prejudging and generalizations based in what? Most Republicans are white and white Republicans steal . . . Same racist mentality, albeit reverse racism, you condemn when directed toward Muslims and blacks. Interesting in that you condemn exactly what you posses.
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Nope just a murderer. You convey the dangerous racist mentality that keeps countries sick. You automatically jump to the conclusion only a black would kill a cop or only a black would get executed for killing a cop. Your mind jumps to race before examine objective facts. That is racist be it direct or reverse and is exactly why rwcist idiots were looting and burning businesses in Ferguson.
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Let the B go. What the heck is stopping her and sending her back going to accomplish except putting another dangerous person back into the YK who will leech of the system.
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The IRS does not initiate contact with taxpayers by telephone.
Not only that but...it is next to impossible to get an IRS agent on the phone...tried for almost a year before having to travel for 2 hours to my closest IRS office...where upon the agent there told me she could not talk to the IRS directly either...but turned my case over to some 3rd party mediator in a large city many miles away...so this mediator was allowed to send emails to the IRS requesting action...
Talk about layers of insulation...the IRS is the most secretive and politically motivated agency in the US...
Not too difficult. I have had to deal with the IRS for myself and for clients. If you call the main number during peak tax time, it may take 20 or 30 minutes to get someone.
There, however, are other number to call and it us much easier to get someone in the phone in the collections department.
I have always found the IRS easy to work with provided you are not dishonest or completely ignore their notices until they finally take some action. The IRS is much more approachable and easier to strike deals with than state taxing authorities.
RE: the scam
This scam is pretty easy to figure out. U have been called at least 5 times. They always have a thick accent and say they are a paralegal from the IRS legal department. They then proceed to threaten to send cops out to arrest you and to tell your employer and usually use foul language.
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Wow, here is the kind of idiot mentality we are dealing with and this guy is a pastor.
When he speaks his dumb congregation starts bobbing their heads up and down saying amen no matter what he says. This unhealthy mentality only perpetuates the problem and defeats their inability to succeed in life. One has to look internal, not external to succeed, but that type of message apparently does not fill the coffers at these types of churches. Jackson, Sharpton and now this clown have learned what message sells best in their communities and what fills their pockets deeper. Their greed, ego and love of money keeps their parishioners and those that listen to their messages from excelling at life.
The sad part is those that have not and cannot excel in life or accomplish their goals in life don't get it and will never get it. They want to blame instead of look inward which is why they fail and continue to look externally for the blame. Those that get it and look internal no longer have reason to complain or allocate blame.
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A Missouri pastor who has helped organize rallies in Ferguson alleged Monday that the 20-year-old suspected shooter of two officers last week was set up by the police department.
“I really believe he was set up,” Mr. Robinson told MSNBC’s Tamron Hall on Monday morning, Mediaite reported.
“Let me pause you on that,” Ms. Hall said. “Set up by who?”
“Police,” Mr. Robinson answered. “I think he was set up by — I would go further and say some of the police. The story just does not add up.”
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I don't direct hate at the West, thing is though we are being lied to by our/their media, which is why reading more extensively is a good idea. There is indeed disinformation from all directions, however some things ring true and not others.Can't blame the west for trying to escalate this into a full war.
This is just business as usual for the Masters of the Universe. They have been destabilizing, ousting democratically elected Presidents, (or secular governments in favour of Islamist) and basically resorting to violence to expand the merchant and banking Empire, for the last 100 years or more. Pretexts can always be found to present to the domestic audience. The Red Menace worked beautifully, then Islamic fundamentalism, R2P, 'humanitarian' causes, and so on.
Those who keep swallowing these pretexts... this time it is Putin... need to snap out of their marketing-induced trance.
And those who wish to direct hate at the West should trying taking off their blinkers and see the full picture. The real world is not as simple as the one you live in.
Sure the West play world politics just as every other country does - but your innocent victims are far from innocent.
Ready to use nuclear weapons for the sake of one man ?. This guy is unstable and a danger to all mankind.
I bet you think the Americans shot down the passenger airliner as well eh ?.
What is a fact is that the US spent 5 billion to illegally oust a democratically elected government in Ukraine and installed a bunch of lunatic Nazis. Since then they've released the dogs of war, sop.
Add to that US neocon think tanks have of late decided that a nuclear first strike against Russia is winnable! Do you imagine the Russian reacted well to that?
Interesting titbit about the Crimea, back in the 30s it was being flagged as a Jewish homeland. The idea being an independent socialist state within the USSR. The US actually made loans to Russia based on this occurring, the Jewish lobby was gungho.
During WW2 this going ahead was a precondition to the US opening up another front against Germany and continuing to provide war aid to Russia, ie blackmail.
Many Russian Jews actually did migrate there, Stalin however changed his mind as apparently believed he couldn't trust a Jewish state on his borders.
Stalin died, Khrushchev then transferred Crimea to Ukraine which in effect stopped the Jewish state happening and cancelled the loan repayment.
There's more to it of course but that's a brief outline off the top of my head. Of course that area actually once was part of the Kazar ? state, where European Jews originated. Russia conquered it long ago.
Interestingly recently an Israeli newspaper was discussing Ukraine becoming a second Jewish state. The plot is usually more convoluted than we think.
Oh dear, lol!!! Crawling out from the wood work. Must be a sale in Reynolds at the local grocery store.
Lol at pretty much everything you said. All of this actually pretty entertaining and you sound so sincere about it. At least Asiantraveler sounds as if he is just writing crap he does not necessarily believe to be writing crap, but you sound as if you are serious.
Sadly, non-English speakers were duped by a twisting or bad interpretation of what Nuland was really saying about investments funds such as Horizon Capital and Sigma Bleyzer since 1991 into the Ukraine and what all those funds were used for.
Then the wonderful infowars and globalresearch sites jump on this and run wild. Get how non-English speakers might be duped, but c'mon. You are writing in English so you have no excuse.
God, you just gotta love the Internet. One can find support for just about any stark raving lunatic thought process or theory man can dream up.
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Alone at controls, co-pilot sought to 'destroy' the plane
in World News
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Oops . . . Lol, I guess I should take time to read some of the posted articles, but most of it is a bunch bs with every so called expert crawling out from under the wood work proclaiming to be an expert and trying to get their 15 minutes of fame with some new and improved theory. Not really inclined to read some of the garbage.
I can tell you right now the internal buzz based on recent incidents is not gas, poisoning or alien abduction . . . screening pilots and push and push back between airlines and ALPA and pilots about measures inside cockpit and concerns that minor health issues might now reasons to pull tickets and impediments to pilots getting help.
My mother is a Swenson and her brothers/father started and owned Messaba Aviation (NW Airlink) and served as CEO, President and Chief pilot for AirTran before and after acquisition of Value Jet to make it is what it is today. I had dinner with Robert, my brother (works in anti terrorism for cargo carriers such as FedEx, UPS and etc.), father (former chief pilot at Fed Ex after 20 years flying at Eastern) just last night for wife's birthday. What little was said about this and recent incidents had very little to do with gas in cockpit, poisoning or alien abduction and very much to do with control over who is in the cockpit and the forces at play here (Pilots, Union, Regulators and Airlines).
True, they know very little about the actual investigation and they apparently don't listen to the news on this, but the sole points made were the difficulties internally of dealing with pilot issues. Nothing about mechanical, poisoning, aliens (MH 370) . . .