Kitsune

Saying that KL and Colombo are accepting METV application from non-residents is not an interpretation, its just reading their requirements.

How is someone going to provide the following requirements in Colombo:

• 4. 850,000 LKR per person with the last 6 months of financial statement
• 5. Letter of employment of the applicant

or the following in KL:

• 3. Original Letter from employer to certify the employment.
• 4. Original letter for bank account confirmation from the bank and Bank statement.

You must be "interpreting" these requirements to include foreign employers and banks when common sense would suggest otherwise.

Given these requirements and the fact that both these embassies go against all others that have published METV requirements, clarification is needed before you can make your claim that either will accept applications from non-nationals.

1/I already answered that question.

It's exhausting.

KL is specifically requesting for FOREIGN DOCUMENTS to be notarized.

it's there a the bottom of the requirements.

Is that to hard to actually read the documents that people send you, instead of constantly trying to win some absurd argument?

it means they DO ACCEPT FOREIGN DOCUMENTS.

2/ Yes it does not say "we accept foreigners", but embassies have a minimum proficiency in English if they want to have residents only applications, they will ask for "resident only" and ask for proof of residence such as residence permit, like they do in most other countries

Saying that KL and Colombo are accepting METV application from non-residents is not an interpretation, its just reading their requirements.

How is someone going to provide the following requirements in Colombo:

• 4. 850,000 LKR per person with the last 6 months of financial statement
• 5. Letter of employment of the applicant

or the following in KL:

• 3. Original Letter from employer to certify the employment.
• 4. Original letter for bank account confirmation from the bank and Bank statement.

You must be "interpreting" these requirements to include foreign employers and banks when common sense would suggest otherwise.

Given these requirements and the fact that both these embassies go against all others that have published METV requirements, clarification is needed before you can make your claim that either will accept applications from non-nationals.

1/I already answered that question.

It's exhausting.

KL is specifically requesting for FOREIGN DOCUMENTS to be notarized.

it's there a the bottom of the requirements.

Is that to hard to actually read the documents that people send you, instead of constantly trying to win some absurd argument?

it means they DO ACCEPT FOREIGN DOCUMENTS.

2/ Yes it does not say "we accept foreigners", but embassies have a minimum proficiency in English if they want to have residents only applications, they will ask for "resident only" and ask for proof of residence such as residence permit, like they do in most other countries

Such contempt for poor people only scraping it on 18000 a month teaching and for Luke, father of a baby here trying his best to stay with his son is to say the least inappropriate.

1. "Luke" could solve his problem easily by marrying the child's mother and obtaining a visa/ extension of stay based on marriage.

2. Those who "volunteer" to work with inappropriate visas and no work permit deserve no sympathy.

1. You just proved to the forum that you despise people without the faintest clue about what you are talking about (and there is a word for that). Luke situation is a very complicated one, and no, marrying the mother wont change a thing.

2. Newsflash : Africa is dead poor and ravaged by civil wars and newsflash no 2, no one comes here to work for 18k by choice but by necessity.

Amazing in all those threads are postings about how to enter another country on 50 Baht and come right back for maybe 100 Baht. Looking at this point I guess its a good idea to getting rid of all those cheap charlies that have been making Thailand their first home.

If it even needs to be discussed on how to enter another country for 50 Baht, I can only say well done Immigration and the MFA and lets start with Phase II. Mukhdahan immigration chief is pissed already that 50% of all foreigners crossing the border are Filipino's to get another stamp just to teach for another 2 months English at some schools. They are looking forward to January when no more Filipinos are crossing the borders. Sakon Nakhon is flooded with teachers from Black Africa that work for Baht 18000 Baht a month and a room (2500 Baht) for free.

Great news however, a lot of Thais have been send overseas in the past 5 years and the son of a former friend (Military attache /London) of mine graduated in English at a university and according to him thousands of Thais have been send over to Europe and they will start as teacher of both Mathematics, Science and English in the next term. In 5 years no one needs Farangs or Africans for teaching English.

Such contempt for poor people only scraping it on 18000 a month teaching and for Luke, father of a baby here trying his best to stay with his son is to say the least inappropriate.

I can because of the reasons given. Just apply common sense!

So we don't believe what they say for Vientiane either then?

You cannot make the all tourist visa population shake over the Vientiane announcement for 30 pages, and then, when faced with another announcement (updated because they clearly it's about METV on both websites) say it cannot be trusted.

You want it to be true, and are simply clutching at straws and giving others false hope. I don't care one way or the other so I can look at it objectively. It is beyond doubt that the MFA want to the METV to be issued from home countries or countries the applicant is officially resident.

Well future will tell...

But now is a good time to remind you I was the only to smell a rat and not to rejoice at the announcement of METV months ago.

So it seems that I was the one to have "common sense" then. When everyone -including you,- were applauding with both hands at the soon to be METV, I was called a pessimist for predicting bad news.

Now I am called delusional, I don't really care anymore, but it does not need to be personal, I am just putting links from embassies, it's not like I'm making anything up.

What rat was it that you smelt? And why have you gone from smelling a rat to trying to interpret everything that remotely constitutes hope that the METV will be available locally to Thailand.

Posting information from the embassies and consulates is a good thing. The problem is that you include claims/interpretation that are not true/wrong or that need clarification.

Saying that KL and Colombo are accepting METV application from non-residents is not an interpretation, its just reading their requirements.

I can because of the reasons given. Just apply common sense!

So we don't believe what they say for Vientiane either then?

You cannot make the all tourist visa population shake over the Vientiane announcement for 30 pages, and then, when faced with another announcement (updated because they clearly it's about METV on both websites) say it cannot be trusted.

You want it to be true, and are simply clutching at straws and giving others false hope. I don't care one way or the other so I can look at it objectively. It is beyond doubt that the MFA want to the METV to be issued from home countries or countries the applicant is officially resident.

Well future will tell...

But now is a good time to remind you I was the only to smell a rat and not to rejoice at the announcement of METV months ago.

So it seems that I was the one to have "common sense" then. When everyone -including you,- were applauding with both hands at the soon to be METV, I was called a pessimist for predicting bad news.

Now I am called delusional, I don't really care anymore, but it does not need to be personal, I am just putting links from embassies, it's not like I'm making anything up.

"There is already a limit on back to backs from Laos and there is still the possibility to apply for METV in Malaysia and Srilanka"

We were in the Thai Consulate in Penang this morning and they told us that METVs are ONLY for Malaysian residents.

Yes but it's not the case for KL

http://www.thaiembassy.org/kualalumpur/th/services/962/18989-Required-Documents.html

Hope you're right but my money would be on them not having completely updated their site as KL is renowned for being non-Foreigner friendly when it comes to TVs...

Also, the same page asks for :-

6. Supporting documents, i.e.,

6.1 Letter from the school/college/university certified by authorized school director and affixed by the seal of the school/college/university. or

6.2 Letter from the spouse and copy of marriage certificate and spouse’ identity card.

If I had 6.1 I'd be applying for an ED Visa, if I had 6.2 I'd be applying for a non-O M

I know it looks very amateur. lol

Its like they making these up as they go along lol

I think the idea behind that is that KL being the capital, they (like they are doing in Indonesia with Jakarta) will probably have a team trained to scrutinize documents and check their validity, as opposed to local consulates where staff will be more "clueless" and easy to lure.

"There is already a limit on back to backs from Laos and there is still the possibility to apply for METV in Malaysia and Srilanka"

We were in the Thai Consulate in Penang this morning and they told us that METVs are ONLY for Malaysian residents.

Yes but it's not the case for KL

http://www.thaiembassy.org/kualalumpur/th/services/962/18989-Required-Documents.html

There is no way non-nationals or non-residents will get the METV from KL or Sir Lanka.

You can't go purely by what is on the websites. They are notoriously wrong/incomplete/out of date the world over.

So we don't believe what they say for Vientiane either then?

You cannot make the all tourist visa population shake over the Vientiane announcement for 30 pages, and then, when faced with another announcement (updated because they clearly it's about METV on both websites) say it cannot be trusted.

"There is already a limit on back to backs from Laos and there is still the possibility to apply for METV in Malaysia and Srilanka"

We were in the Thai Consulate in Penang this morning and they told us that METVs are ONLY for Malaysian residents.

Yes but it's not the case for KL

http://www.thaiembassy.org/kualalumpur/th/services/962/18989-Required-Documents.html

Again ill say- It is only useless if you expect to live in Thailand continuously on the cheap on tourist visas

But its easy to ser what will happen. Every Tom Dick and cheap Charlie will be getting back to back SEs from Vientane so they dont have to fly home

Then Thai immigrations will again crack down on back to back SEs and that will spell the end for everyone

There is already a limit on back to backs from Laos and there is still the possibility to apply for METV in Malaysia and Srilanka.

Both Malaysia and Sri Lanka require EVIDENCE of employment !

I doubt that "professional visa runner" will meet the employment critera

Depends of each situation... You have many self employed people who can easily prove employement

Anyway most embassies in Europe (except UK -they still need english teachers on METV) also require the same proof of employment so I don't see the point of going home.

same same so might as well save me the trip.

Also in the region many embassies don't apply what they write on website...so let's see...

Again ill say- It is only useless if you expect to live in Thailand continuously on the cheap on tourist visas

But its easy to ser what will happen. Every Tom Dick and cheap Charlie will be getting back to back SEs from Vientane so they dont have to fly home

Then Thai immigrations will again crack down on back to back SEs and that will spell the end for everyone

There is already a limit on back to backs from Laos and there is still the possibility to apply for METV in Malaysia and Srilanka.

It is a funny kind of visa but the multi exit re entry tourist visa offered similar time frame with less extensive documentation requirements and cheaper too. I don't think many people will use it.

its not like they have a choice, the 2&3 entries are gone

I think all the English native speakers countries are going to be a peace of cake with METV requirements... They need the English teachers on tourist visas.

The academic year is about 9-10 months anyway, so they go back to UK/US for the holidays and reapply for a METV the next year.

The teachers I know are too skint to travel back to get a new visa, that's why they hang around on tourist visas. Plus the employer letter and possible, £3500 to £4000 in the bank for 6 months might be a problem after 9 to 10 months in Thai.

But London has not asked for any financials has it?

They haven't updated the website yet, only the new fee for metv.

They put the price, so this is it?

All the english speaking countries are easy

I think all the English native speakers countries are going to be a peace of cake with METV requirements... They need the English teachers on tourist visas.

The academic year is about 9-10 months anyway, so they go back to UK/US for the holidays and reapply for a METV the next year.

The teachers I know are too skint to travel back to get a new visa, that's why they hang around on tourist visas. Plus the employer letter and possible, £3500 to £4000 in the bank for 6 months might be a problem after 9 to 10 months in Thai.

But London has not asked for any financials has it?

I think all the English native speakers countries are going to be a peace of cake with METV requirements... They need the English teachers on tourist visas.

The academic year is about 9-10 months anyway, so they go back to UK/US for the holidays and reapply for a METV the next year.

I am a tourist, I stay every winter, 6 months, and I use Tourist Visa, because I am a tourist. Now, you may feel like giving away 500k, and think it is smart thing to do, but trust, very few would agree with you lol.

There's a lot of people in your situation and this is the kind of visa which in my opinion is missing.

There should be a visa for longer stay tourists, especially retired people who like to come to Thailand for the whole winter.

They shouldn't need to do a 'visa run' to a nearby country or go to immigration offices for extensions. It's a pathetic situation where you need to leave the country where you're on holiday just to stay there for more than 90 days.

When they announced this six month visa some time back I wondered if they would take this chance to fix the flawed system but they've done the opposite.

Well said sir

Have you not noticed that recently immigration laws have not been made for foreigners convenience?

Paris has not had updated their website yet, but we all know it's going to be bad anyway lol !

3 days to go and still no info on the Thai embassy website in London on METV requirements, come on pull your finger out!

That or the requirements are the same, only the price will change.

If That's the case, I am asking you to marry me ! lol

If you look like chompoo araya hargate or even the girl with the bob in crazy house that will be good

Oh dear! I have no clue what you are talking about, we don't share the same cultural references ... I sense a communication barrier already

3 days to go and still no info on the Thai embassy website in London on METV requirements, come on pull your finger out!

That or the requirements are the same, only the price will change.

If That's the case, I am asking you to marry me ! lol

"Business Visa". Last time I looked, Business Visas were only issued to investors willing to invest very large amounts of money in Thailand. I doubt, that the school will will buy 25 condos on behalf of the OP.

OP & school may be mixing up Thai Business-Visa with Cambodian Business Visa. An entirely different thing.

Cheers.

A business visa is what you apply to work here, as a teacher or else.

Why nobody speaks abput the ED Visa? I never applied for one. So it could be just another option.

Because

a/ it's a topic about METV

b/ It was clamped down last year.

The guy got a non-B + work permit in a school that does exist. I don't see how he could get caught.

How much was it?

LOL If anyone is still interested in news from METV, Kota Bharu has released its requirements and it's not good.

http://www.thaiembassy.org/kotabharu/contents/files/news-20151105-143419-938021.pdf

It means that this is a lenient time; ie Laos is more generous than usual, in term of allocating visas, even with a history of 4 back to backs, people have been granted doubles.