Chopperboy

" who killed all the other tourists on Koh Tao??"

If the British Police gave evidence to the Thais then it has to be to cover for someone else...   Its like the Madaline McCann case all over again. 

9 minutes ago, oldgent said:

Sorry mate but im not getting  the bit about the Taxpayers expense.... surely all who have worked all

there working life have paid taxes  pardon me but what has it got to do with present day Taxpayers

The governments spend everything they receive in taxes immediately - they don't invest your tax money for the future. So a taxpayer has to pay tax today to pay your pension today, else the money has to be borrowed..

Don't expect too much from countries run by a Sociopathic/ Pedophile Elite..

I once go Roofied in Myanmar but unfortunately never got raped - which considering it was Songran and I was in a restaurant turned

into an club for the night filled with 200 Shan farmer boys was a bit disappointing to say the least...  

No money stolen either because the tour guide looked after everything.

Felt like real bad the next day though.

1 hour ago, Naam said:

what benefits pray tell

The whole infrastructure and security system run by the government - without that it would be like living in Africa. You probably think that happens by magic and is provided for free somehow. But it comes at a huge cost, and not one borne by the expat retirees living here effectively tax free.

1 minute ago, Peterw42 said:

 

For a Thai on average wages, VAT is higher than incometax, the thresholds are quiet high. A teacher on 300,000 a year pays 5% income tax and 10% VAT. 

For a start VAT is 7% not 10% and has been for years. Teachers are poorly paid so don't represent the average middle class income under which the tax is up to 30%. So answer me again, why should a Thai person or corporation pay tax so you can live here for free?

9 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Sorry, maybe I am missing something, really. But why would a retiree with no income (including Thai people) be expected to pay income tax?  Retirees do pay all applicable taxes, as far as I know.

Retirees living here should pay towards the countries running costs - simple as that. Why should a Thai business or Thai people pay so you can live here for free? The Tax or Fee should be annual and built into the cost of a retirement visa and I don't mean the current few thousand Baht it costs to renew.

9 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

 

Most of thailands tax base is VAT and everyone pays that including foreigners, 

Its not, most revenue is from corporate tax and income tax.

23 minutes ago, Chip Allen said:

To answer your question: Why should I pay tax on income already earned which I did not work in Thailand to earn? I pay sales taxes on everything I buy and contribute to the economy just as every other expat does. Bottom line: we live here and take nothing out of the economy and contribute to the sales tax base with our purchases, which are considerably  more than the average Thai. Does that make it a bit clearer for you???

Its a fallacy  that a tiny amount of tax you pay on VATable goods is anywhere near enough  to help support a country like Thailand. It has a large bureaucracy, security and infrastructure to support that ensures the well being of the country that people like you enjoy the benefits off everyday. Who cares if you pay tax in another country go live there. Some of us have paid taxes here for years, while watching retirees live tax free and enjoy exactly the same benefits as people who contribute to the Kingdom.

23 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

We're just doing in Thailand what countless people are doing in the UK.

 

Many foreigners in the UK are getting a a few grand (£) a month for free from the British Government, probably never having worked or contributed in any way at all.

 

The same in Germany, Sweden etc, etc.

 

So, why not!?

 

People of every social class in Britain are seriously hacked off about this too.

Just because the UK government is run by deep state puppets who couldn't care less about the indigenous population doesn't mean to say thats what Thailand's governing class are prepared to accept.

Why should a foreigner have a right to live here TAX free while a middle class Thai has to pay tax to cover the cost of government. I am not surprised Thais are fed up with the cheapskate ferang who come here and use the country as a cheap (to them) hangout, while contributing next to nothing.

I have been waiting for this for a while. Thais don't want low income ferangs here anymore, those who come here because they can't afford to live in their home country. Those ferang are using the services and infrastructure of Thailand while contributing next to nothing. They pay no income tax to cover for the government costs, and if they get sick often use subsidized Thai health care. 

The rate of retire loosers coming here has been growing exponentially..  it was time to call it a day and impose a maximum quota, or up the Terms & Conditions. Looks like they picked the latter.  Good riddance - go else where.

Over the years I have heard of people who have made a contribution and thus never been registered on the system to be deported. 

The so-called "Pivot to Asia" serving as the current underpinning of American foreign policy in Asia has been repeatedly exposed as a continuation of a decades-old cynical region-wide US gambit to encircle and contain China while establishing military, sociopolitical, and economic hegemony over China's neighbors, particularly those in East and Southeast Asia......But Beijing is not Thailand's only potential ally. There is another.

Enter Moscow

Later this month - May 2016 - Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha plans to visit Moscow personally on what is hoped to be a significant leap forward in Thailand and Russia's already long-standing relations. The increasingly transparent nature of America's growing hostility toward Thailand in hopes of putting Shinawatra back into power leaves the Southeast Asian state little choice but to perform a "pivot" of its own. And it is a pivot that has been incrementally manifesting itself since Shinawatra was removed from power in 2006.

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2016/05/us-meddling-in-thailand-boosts-bangkok.html#more

The reason is because of Global Warming Dummies!!

If people were just prepared to pay more money into a privately held "Carbon Bank" then the weather would be just blissful everyday. It would be like living in a Stepford Wives movie. I am starting my own Private Carbon bank and for every one million dollars i receive I will plant ONE tree on land in Africa that I have kicked the natives off.

There were several unprovoked attacks on Shans over Songran last year two ended up in hospital. Another attack happened to a Shan friend of mine while he and I were walking back from a toilet block at Huay Tun Tao. 7 Thai youths descended on him from nowhere kicking him around like a football. For sure he would have ended up in hospital if I hadn't intervened in the strongest way.

If one gang is Shan - they are from Myanmar (originally at least). They are not Burmese, they refuse that word. They are certainly not Thai.

The Shan are Thai Yai. They are Thai people even if they do not have Thai nationality papers. There are Thai people who live in Myanmar, China, Cambodia and even Vietnam.

Just like in places like Surin there are Cambodian people who have Thai nationality but speak a Cambodian dialect at home.

Shan and Thai languages are very similar where as Burmese and Cambodian is very different.

Up here in Chiang Rai most of us look at the Thai Yai as Thai that just happened to be on the wrong side of the river when the British showed up. That being said they are clearly at an economic disadvantage today and it is just down to bad luck. 100 years ago it was a different story. Shan State was doing very well and it was the Thai who were poor (up here at least).

Shan are NOT the same as Thai. For a start they don't look the same and their language is so different that a Thai can not understand a word when they're speaking. The Shan that live near MaeSai are closest to Thais, but thats only an incremental similarity which doesn't hold for Shan's living in another part of the Shan state.

About 3 months ago at the same shrine in Bangkok where the bombing occurred, there were 8 men seen using electronic equipment apparently trying to trace cell phone usage at it near the main Thai police HQ's that is located adjacent to that shrine. The eight were detained by the Thai military and were Israeli IDF soldiers in plain clothes. There was very little discussion about this in any news, and later they were sent back to Israel quickly. Turkey and Israel are very close and many Israeli's occupy high positions in the Turkisk government. The USA embassy denied any connection. Strange

Just another twisted case of INSANE Israel demonization. This Bangkok terror event must really be driving them batty as to those HATERS everything in the world is to be blamed on Israelis and/or Jews and this event clearly has NOTHING to do with Israelis and/or Jews.

Its about time people saw beyond race & specific counties and realized that the problems in our world are due to two factors - PSYCHOPATHY and the innate emotional thinking of NEUROTYPICALS that capitulates to them.

I hope the police will check out the identities of the 2 men in red and white shirt who looks like their helping the bomber by cover the view and then walk away slowly. But if they were accomplices , why did they not try to disguise themselves?

Because if they'd done their "part" correctly, they'd never even been suspected,, so no disquise needed,,, just, tourist's, "lucky" to have left prior to it going off.. But no,, they DO look somewhat suspect...

In operations like this there will be multiple people involved operating in teams in case something goes wrong.

Likely all long gone by now...

BBC had a few theories.... But most plausible is Uighers.... Doubt even a pissed off Thai would bomb Erawan shrine, not really helpful in gaining support in a Buddhist society

Doubt southerners would risk it, as they would regret the attention from more Thai armed forces

BBC is a propaganda service... if they have theories its only to mislead.

Wifey's friends on social media are saying the suspect is Finnish.

. He will be if they catch him.

They'll never catch him - long gone overseas under a different disguise/ passport usual MO.

Lets hope the find the right guy quickly and allow life to go on. i know this is a nervous time for all of us foreigners. I just hope they find this person or persons real soon and teach them a good lasting lesson.

It's a nervous time for the Thais as well, after all, it's their capital city which has been bombed!

Better get used to it there will be more on the way..... the Global Elite don't like their puppets being deposed

While Thailand possesses several key advantages over Libya, Syria, and Ukraine, primarily the fact that the US and Shinawatra are incapable of fielding military forces capable of challenging Thailand’s territorial integrity, the prospect of a protracted and viscous terrorist campaign aimed at disrupting Thailand’s capital, including tourism and commuting is seen as a point of viable leverage the US can use against the Thai government.

In addition to ousting and uprooting a loyal US proxy, the current Thai government has been gravitating ever closer to China, disrupting long-laid plans to use Southeast Asia as a united front with which the US can encircle and contain Beijing.

Thailand now faces two choices. It can choose like Libya, Syria, and Ukraine did, and allow increasing violence to threaten the peace, stability, and even survival of Thailand as a functioning nation-state, or it can choose as Egypt has done, rounding up all senior and mid-level leaders left in Shinawatra’s political front, as well as those working throughout US-funded NGOs backing them, try and sentence them – forever removing them from Thailand political landscape once and for all.

The terrorism may still continue, but in vain – and while Thailand will certainly become “unpopular” among the so-called “international community” – a term perceived widely to actually mean “the West,” it will at least survive. The current government is already “unpopular” with the West and the prospects of restoring beneficial ties with them have already diminished irreparably.

In the long run, this is absolutely unachievable, and so controversial and misguided it shouldn't even be considered for a second.

While demonising the shinawatra one has to consider why are certain groups of Thais so anti shinawatra and yet he is so popular? This also begs the question, what proof is there he had anything to do with it.

The issue is not shinawatra or any other politician. The issue is why is Thailand so petrified of any change at all. Chasing stability involves forcing conformity on society.

Only achieved so far in North Korea and I don't think u want to live there. U can't force people to comply.

Search and you will get the full article...

Its all just a PUPPET show to keep people entertained.

The Shadow government never changes....

Jimmy Savile's friends in case you didn't know.

Immigration policy is just part of the Divide & Conquer and carries on regardless of which set of puppets is in power.

Thais can't drive when they are sober so of course they can't drive when they're drunk.

While driving a car about 70% of my time is taken up stopping the Thais crashing into me in one form or other.

While riding my 1K super bike that goes up to 95% of my time... basically I don't even blink.

Reminds me of a bad computer game - though in this guys case its - GAME OVER