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1 minute ago, gunderhill said:

So what? have you read the preceding posts?

Yes, all of them. Blaming Islam for a barbaric practice conducted throughout the world by many religions. Christians are allowing underage marriage just as much as Islam.

5 minutes ago, gunderhill said:

Good  to see them keeping the tradition alive with Mohameds 9 year old Wife.

Have you not read any comments this thread? It's happening worldwide amongst all the world's religions.

It's not a Muslim issue. Christians are far more to blame for child brides.

Just now, gunderhill said:

They'd probably describe themselves as "Muslims" first anyway.

So...?

1 hour ago, Jomtien Holiday Guy said:

Don't refer to them as thai, but simply as muslims.....it says everything about a person....

No it doesn't. It describes their religion, nothing about their person.

Ignorant, racist, drivel.

4 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:

Sadly, propaganda is not always what the government tell you, it is also what they don't tell you. Lying by omission it is called. We see tool few articles to judge Islam. I have af feeling that the censorship is omitting the really horrible truth. For me Immigrant who integrate are welcome....immigrants who don't are not?

For me Islamists demanding Sharia law or whatever reversion of it they claim should be on eat first boat home.

I take it you read, write, and speak Thai. You've changed your religion to Buddhism.

You no longer eat Western food. You keep your mouth shut about corruption and don't get upset at Thailand's laws?

1 minute ago, FarangJon said:

The Islam is a free ticket for child molesters.

So is Christianity.

25 minutes ago, Spidey said:

It's always been accepted by Moslem scolars that she was much younger than 15.

 

The scholars you quote are recent Moslem apologists trying to deflect criticism of the Koran.

But just like Christian scholars it wasn't historians observing facts, it was religious figures making up stories. The hadiths that stated her age began about 2 centuries after Muhammad's death. There is absolutely no evidence he married a six year old. I don't believe the Koran anymore than I believe the Bible. I'm going to disagree with you on this Spidey. 

I like the wiki I quoted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha

7 minutes ago, NOWHERE said:

I think it is ignorant to think that the Koran is a Stone Age fairy tale. It is held as the perfect word of God by 1.2 billion adherents. 

 

Yes and the Bible is the same.I should have said bronze age of course. Both the Bible and Koran are archaic relics from the distant past and should be considered rubbish regardless of how many billion idiots follow them.

4 minutes ago, Spidey said:

It's always been accepted by Moslem scolars that she was much younger than 15.

 

The scholars you quote are recent Moslem apologists trying to deflect criticism of the Koran.

The fact is that there isn't enough historical evidence to back any claim. 

Like Christian arguments people use religious documents, not historical ones to define the history.

1 minute ago, NOWHERE said:

I really do not hate Muslims but I find it difficult to defend Islam. The prophet, peace be on him is held up as an ideal example and he married a nine year old so it is a good thing to do for Islamic people. Ok, not all of them, but a lot. 

Don't do that.

Don't come on here and try to say you don't hate Islam when all of your posts have clearly said otherwise.

There's no historical evidence of Aisha's age. There's disagreement amongst scholars. I had a link where many scholars thought she would have been 15 or 16.

There is very little evidence of the actual facts of Muhammad's life. Just enough to know he probably existed, unlike Jesus where there is virtually no evidence.

The Bible and Qu'ran are stone age fairy tales.

There is no excuse for the marriages of little girls to men against their will regardless of religion, but I think it's horrible your agenda is to push this as a Muslim problem.

1 minute ago, NOWHERE said:

I'm not scapegoating Islam. Its abhorrent anywhere, but in this topic Islam is the subject. 

No, Islam is not the subject.

Child marriage is.

It just so happens the OP was about the incidents happening between Thailand and Malaysia and a Muslim man.

We all get it, you hate Muslims. 

But the fact of the matter is you can't blame this disgusting phenomenon on Islam.

Christians are doing it every bit as much. 

It's a world problem. Treat it as a world problem and distance yourself from your hatred of Muslim people.

3 minutes ago, NOWHERE said:

Won't argue with any of that. Including your comment about Scientology. 

But other than what you quote, what has 1400 years of Muslim culture given us?  

Coffee, cheques, three course meals, pinhole cameras......

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-6106905.html

1 hour ago, Vacuum said:

A bit off topic, but why is it illegal?

I'm pretty sure he meant polygamy. LOL

4 minutes ago, NOWHERE said:

True. But Islam not only condones it but holds it up as an example of what a perfect person does. Al la Mohammad. 

You're scapegoating Islam for a world problem. The majority of child marriages are done outside of the Muslim religion.

https://www.girlsnotbrides.org/8-child-marriage-myths-bust-international-womens-day-2017/

When this thread started, I was appalled that Thailand and Malaysia allowed this to happen.

I started googling child marriages and it isn't strictly a Muslim problem.

It's a world problem.

It happens across all religions, all colours of people, and across most of the world.

This is a people problem, not a religious one.

11 minutes ago, Different said:

11 years old girl!?? Come on this report is a slander by British hating Muslims journalist Hannah Ellis-Petersen.

Muslims like Thais have puberty age, which is girls have their period at 14+.

You obviously know very little about females.

I'm teaching Grade 5 which are 10 to 11 years old. The girls are beginning to get their periods this year.

One girl started last year.

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

I'm not aware of the Christian and Buddhist religions actually approving of pedophilia, although it has been happening for centuries.

If letting it happen can be construed as approval  I may be stretching the definition.

But the churches are showing a blind eye to it in North and South America and  the mainly Buddhist government of Thailand has kept a blind eye to this as well.

5 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

 

Unfortunately, some of us seem incapable of making a logical distinction between individuals who committee egregious acts in spite of their religious beliefs and those who do so because of them.

I don't see the difference.

A child's rape is no more or less horrific no matter what the underlying motivation of the pedophiles involved.

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Dress it up any way you want. IMHO a 40 yo Muslim marrying a girl not even in her teens is a pedophile, and his religion approves it.

As do Mormons,   Hutterites,  Doukabours,   Christians and now Buddhists apparently

4 minutes ago, Spidey said:

More than half of my extended family are Moslem. Have discussed this with them at length. Why would I pull it out of thin air? I haven't got that much of a warped imagination!

It didn't sound plausible and I couldn't find anything on the internet to back up your story.

I'll accept your extended family's explanation.

7 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Their proclivity for young boys comes from the fact that they are taught that the Messiah (not yet arrived but on his way) is predicted to be born by a man of 28 years of age. Therefore many Moslem men don't have sex with a woman before that age but do have anal sex in the hope that they will become pregnant with the Messiah. Having anal sex at a young age leaves them with a lifelong liking for this particular act. One of the reasons that Moslem tourists to Thailand have a proclivity for ladyboys. 

You're going to need links to back this up. I think you're pulling this out of thin air.

Show me proof and I'll stand corrected but.......

The more I've googled child marriage the more I understand that it's a world problem, not a Muslim problem. Mexico has 1.5 million child brides and it couldn't be more Catholic. The US has very low age of consent laws not to mention the polygamous Mormons, Hutterites, and Doukabours.

South America isn't Muslim and has a huge number of child marriages. Africa is terrible as well.

https://www.girlsnotbrides.org/where-does-it-happen/

17 minutes ago, Esso49 said:

In fact Religion and politics go hand in hand

Unfortunately!

41 minutes ago, rodney earl said:

Underaage by whose standards.? Muhammad married a girl at 9 years old so he was nothing more than a paedophile.!!!

There's  no historical records that support this. It's all speculation and many religious scholars think Aisha's age was closer to 15 or 16.

https://ask.ismailignosis.com/article/84-did-prophet-muhammad-marry-a-9-year-old-girl