Melyn

So we will boicot the election, and if you not agree we will boicot the elections...

Thailand need an election. And a majority government formed from that election.

There is no legal basis for a neutral government. And good luck finding anyone neutral. Until the traditionalist nationalists can accept that they are a minority in Thailand as of the last 20 years, I dont see any way out of this that does not end in political chaos. The Democrats "solution" is not one, its just a promise to block the july election and plunging Thailand into recession. If after half a year of owning the media spotlight bashing the PT government for various schemes and "corruption", they still can not win a national election, that says something about how far from mass appeal the democrats really is.

What Thailand needs is a government that is free from corruption and external influences coupled with an armed forces that keeps out of politics and a police force that both upholds the law and keeps out of politics.

What it will waste countless decades and innumerable lives on will be getting there the hard way

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At the end of the day it won't matter if Yingluck is judicially removed from her position. Voters are all too familiar with the pattern, vote their PM in, judicial coup removes them...They might win the battle but they can't win the war against democracy, another candidate will step up to take her place, and will be voted into power by the electorate.

Just to remind you the 1000, time SHE was not voted in by the electorate. The P.M. removed herself, the PTP self destructed-----you are a complete wind up. My post is fact--unlike your fiction posts.

The PTP is still going as a political party , The PM dissolved parliament. Your post is not fact. The Electorate vote for MPs of their favoured party. If that political party wins enough seats the get the chance to form a government. All the MPs that are voted in or get in on the party list then vote for the person who they want as PM. It follows that the party with a majority of seats will get their choice of PM. The Party has already chosen who would be PM if the have the requisite amount of seats to win that vote and this choice is well known by the supporters of that particular party.

Ergo, by voting for their representative of a political party, they are endorsing that parties choice for PM i.e that portion of the electorate are "voting" for their PM.

It's not rocket science, or fiction.

You red boys claim to believe in democracy and votes but when push comes to shove a woman selected by her brother to head up her brother's political toy party to run a country does not follow any internationally recognised firm of democracy.

She is there because she is Thaksin's sister

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No wonder Mark said he would not run for Pm or be party leader if his plan was accepted. He knew no one would accept such an unconstitutional plan like this. How can he even call himself a democrat. Shame on him.

Putting out a proposal as opposed to sitting, vacuously in Chiang Mai takes courage.

They have a strawman to build upon (although you might think that's something out of Alice)

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I see the red mist brigade thinks that you should stop protesting if nothing changes. Not really that smart.

The same people have no idea what Abhisit's proposals are but demean and criticise them. Not really that smart.

The Dems have been constantly attacked and injured with at least one dead and have asked for free and fair elections to which PTP has not responded. The red mist brigade thinks that elections with violence are acceptable. Not that smart.

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The sooner the police in this country are cured of their ills, the better

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Sounds like an ultimatum from a 6 year old boy. just when you thought the democrats couldn't get any more childish, they come out with this.

Sounds like logic laced with principles

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As there are 5 of the Shinawatra clan in top positions, there is plenty of choice.

That would keep Suthep in Bangkok

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At the end of the day it won't matter if Yingluck is judicially removed from her position. Voters are all too familiar with the pattern, vote their PM in, judicial coup removes them...They might win the battle but they can't win the war against democracy, another candidate will step up to take her place, and will be voted into power by the electorate.

Just to remind you the 1000, time SHE was not voted in by the electorate. The P.M. removed herself, the PTP self destructed-----you are a complete wind up. My post is fact--unlike your fiction posts.

You can lead a horse to water.. But you can't make him think

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Abhisit is the only politician attempting to do something positive.

PTP look more and more like a bunch of kleptomaniacal chimpanzees by the minute

He manages to catch the opposition with their pants down before they even realise their collective thingamajigs have been exposed

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Elections are a positive thing. He's trying to block them (ok, delay them for an indefinite period), which is a negative thing.

I don't get your pants down reference, it's just wishful thinking, he's a bit dozy to me. Most likely a lawyer has been examining the EC's plans and he's been advised to buy some time to keep his MPs in the Democrat party.

If he was running for elections, he'd be planning his campaign now, and selecting his candidates for each seat, not stalling.

You don't begin an election campaign with a "well perhaps I won't be running unless you agree to these secret conditions I won't say".

Say we're looking at early June registrations for July elections, MP's need to resign from the Democrat party and jump ship to one of the other yellow opposition parties NOW, to qualify under the 30 day limit. Do not let this idiot drag you down Yellow MPs.

Get into other party lists, and win those easy seats in the south and represent your constiuents. You can see Abhisit is finished and he's admitting it here, there will be no new Democrat leader because he will not resign quickly enough to permit one, so you will be doomed if you stay in the Democrat party.

Abhisit's plans are probably not for wider consumption for a number of good reasons. One of them may be that in line with him exiting the leadership that the Shinawatra clan follow suit.

However if you view this a subterfuge then that's really your call

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She's standing, she's already planning her election campaign, potential candidates are already polishing their CVs, and the red protest rallys are already more like "get out the vote and win those elections" rallies.

Him, he's not standing. Whether his party stands or not? Well Suthep has set his latest "final" march for 14th May. So Abhisit will probably be stalling till 20th May (he spends about a week to make any decision). Then announce his party won't be standing at elections.

Do you think it's like lemmings? That somehow he will throw himself off a cliff and she will follow? Why?

Polishing their CVs?

Is that a euphemism for removing the criminal charges?

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Abhisit is the only politician attempting to do something positive.

PTP look more and more like a bunch of kleptomaniacal chimpanzees by the minute

He manages to catch the opposition with their pants down before they even realise their collective thingamajigs have been exposed

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Elections are a positive thing. He's trying to block them (ok, delay them for an indefinite period), which is a negative thing.

I don't get your pants down reference, it's just wishful thinking, he's a bit dozy to me. Most likely a lawyer has been examining the EC's plans and he's been advised to buy some time to keep his MPs in the Democrat party.

If he was running for elections, he'd be planning his campaign now, and selecting his candidates for each seat, not stalling.

You don't begin an election campaign with a "well perhaps I won't be running unless you agree to these secret conditions I won't say".

Say we're looking at early June registrations for July elections, MP's need to resign from the Democrat party and jump ship to one of the other yellow opposition parties NOW, to qualify under the 30 day limit. Do not let this idiot drag you down Yellow MPs.

Get into other party lists, and win those easy seats in the south and represent your constiuents. You can see Abhisit is finished and he's admitting it here, there will be no new Democrat leader because he will not resign quickly enough to permit one, so you will be doomed if you stay in the Democrat party.

Abhisit's plans are probably not for wider consumption for a number of good reasons. One of them may be that in line with him exiting the leadership that the Shinawatra clan follow suit.

However if you view this a subterfuge then that's really your call

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Abhisit is the only politician attempting to do something positive.

PTP look more and more like a bunch of kleptomaniacal chimpanzees by the minute

He manages to catch the opposition with their pants down before they even realise their collective thingamajigs have been exposed

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The driver will have less punishment than if he sold unripe durians

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"It's perfectly reasonable, it's not illegal,"

So now what? court official publicly saying this stuff, you cant say it's illegal for one person, but when I do it it's ok.

Errummm,,, Ok miss Yingluck case dismissed, advance too go collect 200 baht and Ooop's my bad.

What is illegal about writing a letter of recommendation for someone?

In case you haven't notice Yingluck's case does not include writing a letter of recommendation, it involves "her" removing a public official to make room to install a relative as Chief of Police, if you can't see the difference you really shouldn't make commentaries.

Ye'p your right, it's NOT illegal to write a letter of recommendation,

What I was commenting on was the official said installing a family member or a person you know and or worked with before is perfectly reasonable and not illegal, If you can't see the difference you really shouldn't make commentaries.

The big difference is that it's like Ronnie Biggs saying that all passengers should have a train ticket

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"EC secretary-general Puchong Nutrawong said there were 74 complaints against the election winners in 15 provinces, but since the commission could not finish deliberating the complaints with in the 30-day deadline, it decided to endorse the 15 senators first."

Yes, of course the EC has up to one year to further investigate and ask the Supreme Court's Election Division to disqualify any of the endorsed Senators. But wouldn't you think that given the current situation of an interim government, political conflicts, allegations of government lack of transparency and accountability that the EC take its investigative reponsibilities more seriously upfront. Choosing to wait later sometime within the next year to review elected Senator's backgrounds is allowing uncollaborated senators to operate freely (and perhaps irresponsibly) now. There is no necessity for the EC to grant automatic endorsements. One might perceive EC's rush to endorsements as a politically motivated act.

Ah, but what about yaowappa?

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The best Thai shandy is with Sprite, topped up with draft and the juice of half a lime

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I'm trying to work out if Abhisit and Suthep are in cahoots on this or have truly diverged philosophically.

More importantly, would Suthep seek to disrupt elections if the Democrats stood? Would his following diminish under such circumstances?

Has Suthep served his purpose?

Can Abhisit get an acceptable set of political cum electoral reforms agreed upon pre-election?

Has a deal been struck that somehow permits Yingluck to be absolved of charges if she agrees to reform and steps down?

Is there horse trading going on behind closed doors?

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After thinking about it:

With the Democrats at the elections, Suthep won't be able to disrupt the elections. On the other hand many Democrats would boycott the elections which would result in a terrible defeat and a win of the PTP.

I think there is no legal framework that would allow Yingluck and Abhisit doing reforms before the elections. Actually it would be a coup by the PTP to do it.

So without Suthep Abhisit has nothing to offer, but maybe he must say something nice to safe his party from getting legal problems?

Or he can see that the corrupt and inept govt of PT and the lunacy of suthep are both bad for Thailand and he is actually trying to do something to bring the country back from the brink.

With the proletariat having the collective attention span of a goldfish with Alzheimer's, the next election will be all about timing and whoever is the number one candidate for PT.

If YS goes in disgrace and Abhisit is being positively viewed then the situation will be ripe

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Lime juice is now more expensive than beer? My several times?

Save limes, drink more beer!

I'll have to wean the missus of the margaritas!!

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Must be newspeak for Rohingya.

From the caretaker ministry of information

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Don't mention elections!

The yellows can't stand the word.They would prefer the the self proclaimed peoples medium to have his way and set up his reform council and just toss whoever they see fit out of the country.

Mention vote and the whole yellow brigade go off their trolleys because they know the result will go the PTP by a country mile.

Notice the little minded snide remarks from the devout yellows again to anyone who has a different opinion.

They only cheapen whatever point you are trying to make!

Who are these "yellows" you speak of?

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There's something very disconcerting about a government scratching around trying to pay its debts and failing miserably

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The only people talking sense at the moment are Abhisit and Prayuth

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Wasn't there just a piece about the price not going up? Those slippery noodle guys!

That's what the government said......

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I'm trying to work out if Abhisit and Suthep are in cahoots on this or have truly diverged philosophically.

More importantly, would Suthep seek to disrupt elections if the Democrats stood? Would his following diminish under such circumstances?

Has Suthep served his purpose?

Can Abhisit get an acceptable set of political cum electoral reforms agreed upon pre-election?

Has a deal been struck that somehow permits Yingluck to be absolved of charges if she agrees to reform and steps down?

Is there horse trading going on behind closed doors?

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