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I think it will be much more fun with Ko Tee at large shooting his mouth off.

Sooner or later he will realise that his "side" has tossed him to the wolves and will speak volumes

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So , she didn't bother to turn up....... whats new

Why would you expect someone to socialize with people who are opposed to her as PM?

Her problem at the moment is that not only does she isolate herself in the north but talks only to people of a certain political persuasion.

How will she ever learn?

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Not to mention the horrendous traffic and polution

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This Scheme was designed to hurt Bangkokians. The well-off in Bangkok may own cars but they can't use them now as the traffic is so bad. Clever. The rural folk must be having a good laugh at how PTP made the city people suffer.

Haha!

Its true that around half of those cars ended up in Bangkok where the roads are already both insufficient and poorly managed from a traffic perspective.

The thing is that at this time of year we also see how the additional cars put the entire nation's road system to a halt.

Wife drove up to Udon yesterday. 14 hours!!!!!

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This artcle is a crock and is BS. The money that was promised as a rebate to 1st time car buyers is in fact actually paid by the car manufacturers in taxes. That money is sent to the finance ministry until the excise dept request it sent to the individual who putchased the car. So basically all it is is a rebate from the manufacturer.

So what happened to this money?

By the way, the details for all mentioned above were told to my wife by the excise dept so it is true.

If the car manufacturers sent the rebates to the finance ministry (which is most certain) then how can they not have the money to pay these car buyers?

By the way, this is not about rich and elite and ammart as that previous poster always claims. This rebate was intended to help those who never owned a car obtain one. It put the nee owner in serious debt. In some cases money was borrowed simply because of the rebate promised and people are counting on that money to reducr their debts which were incurred to purchase the car. For this article to say its not that important is irresponsible. But even more so it is filled with holes as to what happened to the money that the manuafacturer sent to the finance ministry. The excise dept only job was to qualify participants and forward payment amounts due to the finance ministry.

Is this another example of corruption and laying blame?

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I would add that part of the process in getting a proper number plate for the car is that the tax has been paid in full to the government.

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"...to bear the negative impact of political populism"

It is one thing to discuss the pro's and con's of Govt. programs, another to advance political theory while doing so.

Left unchallenged, such negating of political theory and underlying principles, could be viewed as gospel....Left unchallenged, the self-serving motives would be obscured....Puts into context, over-the-top denigration of such programs by the PAD-Dem's, and why you see them seeking out each and every possible program hitch, and magnifying them.

The Ammart is opposed to what the above quote calls "political populism"...Let's be sure we know what that means.....

Populism refers to "programs for ordinary people"...So in the context of this quote, the statement actually says that "Political programs for ordinary people is a bad thing"

And that is the mantra of BKK. centered political circles, who decry what they see as national financial wherewithal being wasted on ordinary folks not of their station.

Does that give you a clue as to their electoral futility? Does that give you an inkling about all the furor and noise they generate against Govt. programs designed to 'spread the wealth'.

It is why the Lumpini crowd wants to establish a Civilian Dictatorship of their own kind, to put an end to such programming which does not cater to them exclusively....

The only way they can do that is non-electorally.

Furor?

Haha!!!

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I suppose skiing at Whistler is out of the question

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Farmers might not be paid after songkran....

Let's face it, the current impasse may go on for years

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It is the judiciary that is keeping this country on a democratic path. With out a strong Judiciary the government can do as they please no checks or balances, they do not even have to answer to the electorate. They become a dictatorship.

But then you reds are more interested in Dictatorship than Democracy!

Comedy ggold.

I've got something that will fix your stutter

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And the chess game continues. So the Court can rule against her, and she has to leave, but what about the rest of the cabinet? They kick it out too, somehow? How do they fit the round peg of their goal - and by their, I group the opposition that makes up the Court, the rich and powerful Bangkokians, the PDRC, the DP, the military and others (all groups often overlapping) - of booting Thaksin and Cronies with square hole of the Constitution and the expectations of the upcountry folk? Should be interesting. I spend five minutes on this, and there are people on both sides going full time, with a deep understanding of Thai law, Thai acceptable practice, and who / what is in play. So I know better than to predict final outcomes. But you can be sure there are many moves to come in this game, till we know we have reached the next phase. Certainly not the end, as this game will be played for years and years to come, dividing and re-dividing the spoils of Thailand.

My guess is that with Yingluck out of the picture, her deputy, Thaksin's cousin, Surapong will pick up the reigns.

What really matters, however, will be who is selected to run on the PM ticket in the upcoming election.

Another of Thaksin's family? Will PTP go with that or will they rebel? Suthep won't go home. Will the dems contest the election?

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Oak is being groomed currently for a future leadership role.

Yes, the Dems will have to contest the next election or the party gets disbanded.

A horse and groom is always better than a gruesome w$%&e

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And the chess game continues. So the Court can rule against her, and she has to leave, but what about the rest of the cabinet? They kick it out too, somehow? How do they fit the round peg of their goal - and by their, I group the opposition that makes up the Court, the rich and powerful Bangkokians, the PDRC, the DP, the military and others (all groups often overlapping) - of booting Thaksin and Cronies with square hole of the Constitution and the expectations of the upcountry folk? Should be interesting. I spend five minutes on this, and there are people on both sides going full time, with a deep understanding of Thai law, Thai acceptable practice, and who / what is in play. So I know better than to predict final outcomes. But you can be sure there are many moves to come in this game, till we know we have reached the next phase. Certainly not the end, as this game will be played for years and years to come, dividing and re-dividing the spoils of Thailand.

My guess is that with Yingluck out of the picture, her deputy, Thaksin's cousin, Surapong will pick up the reigns.

What really matters, however, will be who is selected to run on the PM ticket in the upcoming election.

Another of Thaksin's family? Will PTP go with that or will they rebel? Suthep won't go home. Will the dems contest the election?

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"reigns" - a typo'....I hope!

You'll be disappointed!

Using the typo "I hoe" when discussing Surapong made me think of Snow White. He'd make a great dwarf

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"We cant even find an answer today on how to bring the country back to democratic rule, she said."

Well, that's not quite true. End corruption. End nepotism. Obey the law. Rule consensually. Disband street thug groups. Allow economists to be involved in policy making. No blanket amnesties. The guilty go to gaol.

It won't be her decision anyway. She's guided and steered and string-attached-controlled from Dubai and her bodyguards, (Kittirat, Surapong, etc.),,,, a PM barbie girl, who has no say and right or opinion.... everything arranged and scripted in Dubai....

"everything arranged and scripted in Dubai"

That Thaksin must be a busy boy, running an entire country from Dubai and all on mobile phones and skype, whilst simultaneously running his own businesses and interests.

Sounds unbelievable doesn't it?

That's because it is.

Its perfectly believable. All the policy screwups have Thaksinomics smell all over.

He puts more effort into it than the PM ever did to either the rice scheme or house attendance.

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And the chess game continues. So the Court can rule against her, and she has to leave, but what about the rest of the cabinet? They kick it out too, somehow? How do they fit the round peg of their goal - and by their, I group the opposition that makes up the Court, the rich and powerful Bangkokians, the PDRC, the DP, the military and others (all groups often overlapping) - of booting Thaksin and Cronies with square hole of the Constitution and the expectations of the upcountry folk? Should be interesting. I spend five minutes on this, and there are people on both sides going full time, with a deep understanding of Thai law, Thai acceptable practice, and who / what is in play. So I know better than to predict final outcomes. But you can be sure there are many moves to come in this game, till we know we have reached the next phase. Certainly not the end, as this game will be played for years and years to come, dividing and re-dividing the spoils of Thailand.

My guess is that with Yingluck out of the picture, her deputy, Thaksin's cousin, Surapong will pick up the reigns.

What really matters, however, will be who is selected to run on the PM ticket in the upcoming election.

Another of Thaksin's family? Will PTP go with that or will they rebel? Suthep won't go home. Will the dems contest the election?

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Still no news from Amsterdam?

What a hypocrite

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I'm watching hard talk on the BBC and one of the complaints about the world cup in Brazil was an expenditure of 12 billion dollars and some of it disappearing into corruption.

Puts the rice scheme into perspective

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Similar amounts to what have been "lost" on the rice scam. With the World Cup, at least the "income" from the event will likely well exceed any of the expenditure.

Indeed. A lot of investment in infrastructure as opposed to millions of tonnes of mouldy rice

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I'm watching hard talk on the BBC and one of the complaints about the world cup in Brazil was an expenditure of 12 billion dollars and some of it disappearing into corruption.

Puts the rice scheme into perspective

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Wouldn't it seem reasonable to have the evidence of corruption laid out for all to see before anyone is accused of allowing it to happen?

I have heard accusations left, right & centre from Suthep, the Dems & the TV yellow cheer-leading squad of corruption, but as yet no-one has outlined what the corruption actually was.

Several times daily on TV I read ridiculous claims of how all the money from the scheme is being sent directly to Dubai, but I have yet to see a shred of evidence. There was one unsubstantiated claim of bank accounts in Hong Kong, but nothing came of it.

Could any of those who regularly jump up & down about the 'massive corruption in the rice scam' please enlighten me as to the form of this 'scam'?

Thanks in advance.

It does seem anomalous that the court is not required to be transparent to reveal evidence supporting the plaintiff's charges. All I've seen published are verbal allegations from Suthep-related parties OUTSIDE of the Government or RETIRED Democrat politicians.

I remain confused as well in that the charge before the Court is "dereliction of duty" and not "corruption." It seems Suthep, et al, consider both terms synonomous, maybe (being polite) because a quilty verdict of either would remove Yingluck (vis a vis Senate vote) from office. And while some TV commentors fault the administration from being less than transparent of the use of rice proceeds, there is apparently nothing in the laws that requires such degree of transparency (maybe as a holdover from the 2007 Democrat administration).

What court are you referring to?

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Honest question.

What would happen if she finds Yingluck not guilty?

Personally I just think it's another kangaroo court but just say it's not guilty then what?

Exactly.

What is vulgar about this is not complaining about the case that made the conviction but complaining about the court before the verdict

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The police are hiding Ko Tee?

Whatever next!!!

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Beyond farcical. She is a witness in these matters, how can anybody suggest she can be impartial now. What a joke. Of course given the chance to present information about wrongdoing last July, she chose to do it through the media. Also a Director of Siam Commercial Bank. Where does that money trail lead?

Who says she has anything to do with the rice case?

Its your implications that are farcical

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"Democrat party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva yesterday (Wednesday) challenged caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra to quit the office....."

Basically, what he is saying:

>Electoral majority, I ask that you rescind your votes?

>Please don't force the CC into exposing themselves

Robert,

We can all paraphrase what is said to suit our purpose. Abhisit's call on YL to stand down was clearly explained, so your paraphrasing of what was said is, as usual, designed to put a completely different spin on it...!

well he says

>Electoral majority, I ask that you rescind your votes?

I notice that he fails to mention the majority of the population did not want Yingluck. It was the majority of about 500 people that wanted her. 52% of the population did not want her. That is a conservative estimate with no proof that there was more.

Just common sense tells us that many of them did not want her they wanted Thaksin.

This is just one of many PAD-Dem's trying to spin a Governing Parliamentary Majority into not be a 'majority'

Until elections show otherwise, an electoral majority-minority characterization applies and will be used to designate the two sides.

" Until elections show otherwise, an electoral majority-minority characterization applies and will be used to designate the two sides."

What on earth does this mean?

By my count we have zero MPs. Are you trying to argue that there is some kind of virtual majority implied from a years old vote?

If so, I'd advise you to lay off the psychedelics over the holiday period

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