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I think it's unrealistic but then again, there's gotta be some kind of compensation for being with someone you can't really communicate with beyond the most rudimentary barstool-Thai or pidgin English.

Of course, that doesn't apply if they can communicate effectively and the guy isn't 20 years older than she is.

Personally I think a lot of the farang men that come here have unrealistic expectations about what they should be able to get in terms of women.

I'd agree with that

If all the guys who boast on TV about their allegedly "stunning" or "Sino-Thai" wives and GFs were to actually post photos, there would be a considerable chasm between the objective reality and the adjectives used to describe them . . .

. . . . or the size of the stipend they pay each month

I really want to know what exactly is it about thai chinese girls that are considered so superior. Yes thai chinese tend to be in the upper class as most chinese in foreign countries are so it's nothing unique about that but to well somehow say that they are superior ok they tend to be fairer cos chinese ppl are on average fairer.

FYI not all thais that look chinese or are fair skinned are mixed with chinese. Some thais did originate from china BUT they were from the minority groups in china that obviously look rather chinese but not chinese cos to be chinese u need to be ethnic han.

Why judge the farang to a different standard?

I would say because the farang has or had so many more opportunities to do better for himself. Not judging here, simply offering an answer to the question.

Most farang have that racial superiority mindset in them. It cannot be helped cos you never heard of an asian or a black hitler where the ppl saw themselves as superior simply cos of the race they were born into.

It's also the corner stone of the stereotypes that exist in western aka hollywood movies. An asian female wants to be with a white guy cos he's superior. You know he's just born superior cos he's white. White priviliege is dying out in farang countries where in the last 100 to 50 yrs it was still strong like how black men couldn't even drink from the same fountain as a white person.

Many farang like to think it's not because of the fact that they come from richer countries and happen to be richer that's why they get girls or that these girls are using them for money oh no it's because they are farang that these girls are dying for them you know racially superior especially in inferior asian nations. Many farang know what i am talking about but probably wouldn't admit it. How many farang came to some poor inferior asian or non western nation thinking they were somehow inherently superior.

I'm not saying it's right, but we all have to get used to the way it is in Thailand,the Richer you are the more respect comes your way,and the more superficial wealth and expensive consumer goods flaunted, the more you are looked up to,and not forgetting good looks are all important too!

Unrealistic expectations? of course,but most will never stop aiming for a rich lifestyle,being comfortable,with no money problems is not enough.

You do know that this also happens in places like the enlightened west. A rich man living in europe or the US gets more respect than a beggar living there. So much for supposed higher moral values of the west whereby rich ppl in the west don't actually have privileges.

I can't blame them in most cases.

If I'm going to be with an old, fat, bald woman with poor hygiene, bad breath and a language problem, I'd make sure she has something to make it worthwhile.

(BTW, except for the gender, that's a self description),

You have to work sure that woman comes from the 1st world nation whereby they are richer than your 3rd world nation.

To the OP in whoose post i cannot quote cos there doesn't seem to have a quote function for his post it's called a positive stereotype. It's actually a stereotype ppl from non european and western countries have of farang. Let's say a farang goes to mexico over there farangs are called gringos, the mexicans would be thinking how rich this farang is if he comes from say the US which is natural seeing how many mexicans go into the US. It's also the same when a farang visits say an african country. Same thinking. Occurs in other south east asian nations next to thailand too. Problem arises when said farang cannot live up to the stereotype but you don't actually have to worry cos it is a positive stereotype due to the fact that you are a farang and ppl will more or less see u in a positive light and so far never heard of anyone complaining of being stereotype positively.

Now imagine being an african in thailand whereby ppl look down on those with dark skin. Imagine being an african where ppl are just going to automatically assume you are poor, involved in crime and leeching off the system. Can imagine an african person in here starting a thread going damn racist thais thinking poorly of me all cos i am an african and think i sell drugs, poor, violent etc.

It also happens when asians go to western nations like how a thai foreigner in the US would be seen as probably some mail order bride or had to leave in some dingy boat to escape poverty in her 3rd world country to come to the 1st world.

So you see all humans stereotype but if you have the positive stereotypes that is good unless you cannot live up to them but from what i see farang in thailand still are positively stereotyped try being an african in thailand.

how many people stand up in their private homes?

Well maybe I can offer an answer??????

Proberly none at all....... but thays not the point. How many ppl stand up for other reasons??????

Many ppl for many reason's. Why do americans have to hold there hearts evey 2 mins when there national anthem is played???

The english....... ladys an gentelmen the queen / king all stand.

Italian and spanish crying?????? Grown men??????

The way I see ii takes 2 mins of your time. We say thais only do it to save face so there not the odd in ones out but in the us???????????? Trust me you be shot as well if you did not follow

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The thing about getting shot in the US for not doing it you know the odd thing is somehow they feel justified in doing it but when other countries do it it's not ok.

I wonder does the same thing occur in western countries?

In the US for example toms are called dykes which are women that dress and act like men and is it the same in thailand where if they are lesbo it seems like somehow one female needs to take on a male role and act like a male you cannot have 2 females that just dress like regular females. I suppose too lesbo females that look equally attractive only exist in porn movies.

Also why don't you see 2 gay men with one dressing up as a female then?

If you know about the current situation in singapore it's getting crowded. It's only 2nd to HK as most densely populated place in the world and singapore is a country but HK is not. I am not even sure if they already have 7m ppl in the country but that is the govt's plan to populate the country with that many aliens.

Most ppl live in public housing in singapore called HDB flat. They are rather expensive and everything in singapore is expensive cos of the lack of land space so a vehicle like a car is many times more expensive compared to other countries. To be able to afford and own cars and live in these HDB flats one need to take on loans and once you have those loans well you are enslaved to the system. You would need to join the rat race of endless work to pay off loans and it seems like what ppl in other countries do but possibly on a bigger scale.

Any singaporean here that didn't want that to occur to them and probably just packed up and lives abroad in a SEA country like thailand?

Seems like nobody here admits to yellow fever but jungle fever should be legitimate.

to dave seems like that FOF is really hot stuff. Knocked up by 2 different men and having kids by 2 different men. One new thai bf and one foreign bf. Wow.

ok so i suppose yellow fever and jungle fever does not exist you don't admit that the asian chick that you think is attractive wouldn't be that hot if she happened to be caucasian.

Actually the thing is western ppl have the perception like they are best race of ppl in the world and especially towards asians. The media reinforces it like somehow asian chicks are just dying to date or marry western men not because of their money or green card ticket to their country oh no that's like being used of instead simply because they are western men they are just automatically superior which is of course hogwash.

Would you care to back this dribble up?

dribble or drivel? You mean you have not watched mtv or american tv or is it just speifically american tv and movies and media which makes up the majority of western and world media anyway. Just tell me is british and european media different from american media since both are grouped as the western media. I doubt so i believe british media follows american media and if you watch the movies and talk shows and reality tv from american shows or western shows they portray asians as inferior or rather asian males. This is a fact. It's racist but not offensive cos asians are not black people. Honestly look at racist sites like stormfront where ppl of a certain group are always praising themselves as superior because of the race they were born into and it isn't asians or blacks that do that.

This is the really odd thing that you notice with caucasian people or rather ppl of european descent. Somehow if you happen to be a caucasian male the chances of you getting yellow fever are very high. You would rate a female of the asian race of the same standard as a white female much higher. Let's take 2 females. 1 white and 1 asian and both are below average in looks say a 3/10 in the looks rating. Yet the 3/10 asian girl would somehow rate much more highly compared to the white female even though both are equally ugly. Now contrast this with the white caucasian who somehow loves really dark skinned aka african men and the same thing also applies yet the opposite gender like the african female doesn't appeal to the white male and the asian male isn't that hot to the white caucasian female.

It's really so odd don't you think that you can belong to the same race but if you are from the opposite gender your taste in the opposite sex is so different.

What do you think?

Especially the chinese, korean, japanese types and if they are thai the ones with the fairer skin often mixed with chinese/japanese or east asian over the darker ones. It seems like even if they are old or fat they think like they are hot stuff of course it helps them when it seems that white men with the yellow fever elavate them.

I see the tired old Stickman myth that the "Thais keep the best women for themselves" is still not only being believed, but re-cycled over and over.

As historyprof superbly put things; do you think all the toad-like old harridans one sees around the place are all wed to foreigners and all Thais wed exclusively to 19 year old Thai/Chinese stunners?

Almost every day when having my evening beverages, I see a veritable procession of stunners pass me by. They are mostly factory girls but that doesn't make them any less 'good', if by 'good' we mean they 'don't work in a bar'.

If I were 20 years younger and single, I'd be in paradise. I am sadly neither but I can still have a good perve, however that is neither here nor there.

While, naturally enough, most of these lasses will have Thai blokes, to suggest 'good girls' are a closed door to Westerners is an utter myth. I'm sure if a Westerner was handsome, had a certain amount of cultural understanding of Thailand and decent language skills he'd stand as much of a chance as any Thai bloke.

I think there is too much emphasis being put on race as well when it comes to the envy factor.

Lets be honest about things here. Aren't most (all?) blokes are at least a little envious when they see another bloke with a hot pretty lass regardless of their race. I know I am.

I hear enough blokes both Thai and Western bitching about each other almost daily (especially the ones with a bit of flair with the opposite sex) to know this is the case.

What do you think is at the bottom of all the student troubles? You can rest assured that it will be crumpet at some level. When there is a rift in the expat community it's usually to do with a woman...

Actually the thing is western ppl have the perception like they are best race of ppl in the world and especially towards asians. The media reinforces it like somehow asian chicks are just dying to date or marry western men not because of their money or green card ticket to their country oh no that's like being used of instead simply because they are western men they are just automatically superior which is of course hogwash.

I know some farangs who actually believe that Thai men must be jealous of 'us' for 'stealing all their good women'.

I try and explain to them that Thai men are more likely to feel pity or be bemused if anything but they can't understand why.

Just trying to get this straight in my head. So there you are explaining to Herbert Simon (an American Farang) that his wife, Miss Universe, Bui who is also is on the Board of Governors for the Dream Foundation and on the Board of Regents of Pepperdine University and holds the most Exalted Order of the White Elephant, by King Bhumibol Adulyadej for her service in helping needy children. She received a second Royal Decoration in 2001, Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Crown of Thailand, that his wife is not a good Thai woman and that Thai men feel pity for him?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Simon_%28real_estate%29

he is a billionaire and you know when you have that much money it really is a no brainer that females especially those from the 3rd world not to mention first world would marry you.

Everything is relative. A billionaire to a Western person may be the same as a guy with a decent pension to a Thai teacher. The guy who sells fertilizer in Issan may be a great catch for the farm girl regardless of how he smells. Is the teacher or the farm girl a "good one?" Sure. Maybe, maybe not. How do we know? So are the Western Farang still getting the good girls? Sure. Maybe or maybe not.

Thai guys don't care. Never did. It's not about women. If a Farang husband is number 10 on the list of things a Thai women thinks about think how far down on the list is a Farang to the average Thai male? 89th right after fear of man eating rabbits.

What the hell are you ranting about on? Lord. He is a billionaire so it's easy for him to hook many females. It certainly cannot be because of the way he looks. You are just trying to find excuses that it wasn't because of his large amount of money that he hooked that chick.

You can apply the same thing to famous ppl say hollywood stars. Let's suppose brad pitt wasn't actually a leading actor or famous and just an ordinary joe would he have hooked up and married angelina jolie? Angelina might profess to be weird to go off the beaten track but the fact is all the men she has been with have all been famous or related to her.

I know some farangs who actually believe that Thai men must be jealous of 'us' for 'stealing all their good women'.

I try and explain to them that Thai men are more likely to feel pity or be bemused if anything but they can't understand why.

Just trying to get this straight in my head. So there you are explaining to Herbert Simon (an American Farang) that his wife, Miss Universe, Bui who is also is on the Board of Governors for the Dream Foundation and on the Board of Regents of Pepperdine University and holds the most Exalted Order of the White Elephant, by King Bhumibol Adulyadej for her service in helping needy children. She received a second Royal Decoration in 2001, Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Crown of Thailand, that his wife is not a good Thai woman and that Thai men feel pity for him?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Simon_%28real_estate%29

he is a billionaire and you know when you have that much money it really is a no brainer that females especially those from the 3rd world not to mention first world would marry you.

In every international competition I've seen - in person or on TV - Thai athletes are extremely gracious after any competition, win or lose. Perhaps more so than any other country's competitors? Often, television announcers highlight this graciousness.

Which competition? I wonder why were there so many sore loser type of comments and actions out there. If you can find the story on the thai football team that walked off in protest after they lost the football match to singapore as singapore is considered inferior in football to them.

In this discussion, one kind of Thai women, who do not appeal to Thai men, have been forgotten. Indeed it is my experience that once a Thai woman has passed the age of 30, she is considered as old and no longer attractive to (most) Thai men.

We farang seem to have less problems with age, especially since so many Thai women keep their youthful look way into their 50ies. And that is true not only for "low class" Thai women (I hate that expression), but also for middle and high class women with good background, high education and even with their own successful business career.

Actually it's said that people of european descent seem to age faster compared to asian and african people. A female from the UK would look pretty old by the time she reaches the mid 20s while an asian or a black woman wouldn't. I have seen a youtube video of a black female in her 70s i think still looking like her 30s.

I know some farangs who actually believe that Thai men must be jealous of 'us' for 'stealing all their good women'.

I try and explain to them that Thai men are more likely to feel pity or be bemused if anything but they can't understand why.

That is the problem of interracial dating and marriage but really it's no surprise why some farang would think like that. Take the US for example when just 50 years ago or so a black man could be jailed or beaten up for making a pass at a white woman or bruce lee an asian man marrying a white female in the 70s when it was frowned upon it certainly did look like he was stealing white women. Then take a look at the media where non white men are portrayed in the worst manner and you can see an uneven playing field to prevent the stealing of women.

Then you look at a place like thailand which is so different from the west where the hookers actually treat you like their bfs and it's not like business unlike the west and the hooker chicks actually have all their teeth and then you can see why farang men pay these bar girls their fines and go on dates with them and even marry them like they have scored with them and usually get taken to the cleaners.

Rest assured, if Farang men were in any significant number 'getting' good Thai women, the welcome we receive in Thailand would move swiftly from one of being mildly amused at the choices Farang men make to one of hostility.

That's actually a very good point. Thais see the sorts of Thai women that end up with farangs and they're not the least bothered. No jealousy or envy. It's more of a live-and-let-live sort of attitude. But if quality Thai women were to start drifting towards foreigners in noticeable numbers, I think there would be some open animosity, if not downright hostility. Thankfully, I don't see that happening in my lifetime.

This happens to everyone of almost every race. Try dating a white white chick in the US without getting harrassed. I seen it with my eyes before 2 asian guys holding hands with 1 white chick and 2 white guys had to walk behind them and just talk to them in a really rude manner.

The worst seem to be indian and arab men and it's like sarcrilege to be dating females from their race.

In this regard we can be asking are black men in western countries getting all the good white women and this suddenly becomes extremely offensive and if you know about the history the US black men could even be killed just by looking at a white woman.

Did u guys read about this venezeula fighter trained by this china kung <deleted> master and he beat the muay thai fighters every single year till they told him not to come.

I was reading the comments in this youtube vid between yu long a sanda fighter from china and some muay thai fighter.

Aside from the video title which i assume was probably written by some butt hurt person maybe thai let's look at the fight. Notice how the thai guy mocks yu long by sticking up his arms after getting pawned. It's the behavior of a sore loser and anyway yu long won the fight by knockout. Then read the comments from some thai ppl who started trading insults which makes them look so bad.

I also recall during a football match with singapore how the thais walked off the pitch in protest after leaving.

There is a big difference in saving face and making in a dishonorable manner which is the worst way of losing face.