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Could someone enlighten me as to the definition of a real biker!

Sure- it's someone who knows something about motorcycling after claiming 40 years of experience- it's someone who doesn't have to ask the same newbie questions over-and-over-and-over-and-over without being able to comprehend the answers (or asking for info that's easy to find on his own, or without asking about something that an experienced rider knows already)- it's someone who can actually contribute helpful advice once-in-a-while instead of jumping into threads without a clue and looking like a fool- it's someone that you can tell actually knows what he's doing from the content of his posts, rather than someone who flounders around and looks like a dunce in front of people that really do know.

What is boils down to is that it's someone you can have some respect for as a rider.

So it's nothing to do with condemning other riders for doing ridiculous dangerous things? We are all different, yes it's true I know nothing about the working of a bike engine etc I just buy em and drive em, what I do know a lot about and a lot more than you is what the aftermath of accidents involve, have you actually condemned the op or have you just discussed the situation like a real biker, I am not having a pop here as far as I am concerned this is simply a discussion, if you resort to insults again it will be reported.

Report what? It's cowardly to constantly threaten to do that. Did I mention anyone specifically? If you see yourself in my definition that's your problem.

I gave my opinion of the incident several times on this thread- if you couldn't find post #133 (which was right above the post where you said you couldn't find it), then I can't expect you to find anything else I may have posted, but that again is your problem.

Could someone enlighten me as to the definition of a real biker!

Sure- it's someone who knows something about motorcycling after claiming 40 years of experience- it's someone who doesn't have to ask the same newbie questions over-and-over-and-over-and-over without being able to comprehend the answers (or asking for info that's easy to find on his own, or without asking about something that an experienced rider knows already)- it's someone who can actually contribute helpful advice once-in-a-while instead of jumping into threads without a clue and looking like a fool- it's someone that you can tell actually knows what he's doing from the content of his posts, rather than someone who flounders around and looks like a dunce in front of people that really do know.

What is boils down to is that it's someone you can have some respect for as a rider.

And that perfectly illustrates the point I was making in post #133-.

'Moralizing' doesn't come from a proper motorcycling background- disapassionately breaking down the situation and making a proper critique is what real riders do- they don't cry over and harp on the same point again and again and again, which serves absolutely no purpose other than giving them an opportunity to mount their 'high horse'.

Good for you, David- my point is that the 'river of tears' has burst its banks- yeah, it was a poor move- we all saw it, we all get it- things happen on a motorcycle- fellow bikers don't need to continuously harp on it.

I've been riding fast bikes for over 20 years- I've made some stupid moves that I was lucky to escape unscathed from- if you haven't as well I'd be surprised- if you had one of those moves recorded, would you have posted it here, knowing you'd be subjected to a TD moralizing campaign? I doubt it- I wouldn't have.

Also, I don't have a problem with 'sensible riding'- I have a problem with so-called riders who are so perfect they've never been in a bad situation, as I don't believe them and find a lot of what they post to be hypocritical.

My take- yeah, it was a bad move- hopefully you learned from it- we all ride, and we need to try to stay safe- I sure wouldn't wish anything bad on a fellow rider, which has been done on this thread- that's the worst karma there is for a motorcyclist.

Mate, that's a balanced post ...

I understand you.

My other post was harsh, but I couldn't believe I woke up to another page of the same moralizing from the same posters, as if having had their say already wasn't enough (does Y99 need to apologize personally to them? Does he need to give up riding because of what happened? If that's the case, pretty much all if us should have packed it in at one time or another)- it wasn't meant to paint everyone with the same brush, and I don't disagree with everything people have said, or the main point in general- it's just that as a rider, I can't say I've never put myself (and potentially others) in a bad situation- I've also never had the benefit of being able to review a close call over-and-over again, let alone have others (of unknown riding habits) weigh in on it- to rip the guy a new one and make the same point continuously serves no purpose unless something helpful is being added to the mix.

The OP asked for comments, did he not?

So? Does that mean those comments in turn can't be commented upon? No one is denying anyone's right to have their say, but don't expect not to read other opinions.

how bizarre was just thinking the other day that yankee had been a bit quiet on here lately and then this pops up,well well my only comment is not really the right road to be doing them speeds on,glad nothing serious come from it.

funny just landed back in thailand today after being away for 6 months and been thinking what bike to get ,this will be a reminder to me to keep it calm on some of the crazy roads here,cheers

He probably won't post much from now on- he made the mistake of sharing an experience on this forum without realizing it was populated by expert riders (who rarely if ever post in the bike section, which is too bad as I would really like to benefit from their knowledge and technical skill)- it's too bad these scooter-riding-girl-scouts don't make more frequent appearances.

Yes, I think what Y99 did in the vid was poor judgment in that situation- I've also got a pretty good idea that he realizes it and that he knew what he was going to hear on this thread, yet he posted it anyway and was willing go take his lumps, but some of you are going on-and-on in a way that's over-the-top.

If you're a real rider, you've probably pushed your limits at times, and perhaps put yourself in danger- maybe if you lost control in that situation, you could also have endangered others- it's not something you should be doing, but the nature of the sport pulls you in pretty deep sometimes- the unending b!tching and moralizing on this thread has certainly run its course- everyone needs to make an effort to ride safely, wear their proper gear (which damned few riders in LOS do), and try not to become a statistic- everyone also needs to remember that few of us are perfect and immune from making a mistake on occasion.

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In which class? There are many of them

The GPR steering damper is worth a look- I quite like my Hyperpro, and it was a great deal at a bit less than $500- it also leaves the steering stem free for a GPS mount.

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I agree with your rant- I dumped my 299kph limiter, brake lines/pads, and safety modes/mild stock tune (via ECU reflash) the first week I had my bike.

Here's a pretty good one- I've known both these guys for over 10 years- granted, Paul was screwing around, but he's a great rider, and he couldn't recover it:

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It depends on the situation- speed, RPM, severity of the tank-slapper, etc- if the bars are being ripped out of your hands, smooth application of the throttle is difficult or impossible.

If that poorly-perforated area touches down at speed, it's going to tear like tissue paper- the structural integrity of the jacket has been compromised- if they didn't know what they were doing they shouldn't have taken the job- sorry, man, but I hope it wasn't too expensive.

I've got the Hyperpro:

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You been nicking the spare hot what taps off the janitor?

Devil pre-load adjusters- I'm always screwing around with my settings, and they let me change them from the saddle without tools.

The left one just managed to fit with the damper bracket- there's maybe 1mm of clearance.

I've got the Hyperpro:

I put one on my bike, even though it's pretty stable up front- I had a serious tank-slapper on a CBR900RR once and nearly crashed at a pretty high speed, and I was lucky to have gotten out of it- a steering damper would have lessened or prevented the incident entirely- it's (somewhat) cheap insurance against a potentially dangerous issue.

I haven't needed mine yet, and I hope I never do, but I'm happy it's there.

That said, I wouldn't ride on the track or in the dirt without one- a light front end or areas of poor traction can cause a tank-slapper- you won't see many pros riding without a damper.

That Guzzi looks great- very nice acquisition.

Why discuss performance in regards to Harley's. Yes Jap/Euro bike will perform better there is no argument there. A Harley is a work of art that allows your imagination to transform to whoever you want to be. From the perfectionist nerd having every piece of chrome staring back at you to the most rebellious MC member bad boy wannabe. Plus you can take it out for a ride. Point being is that they look great, sound awesome and you can bling them a thousand different ways. Sort of like the iphone it may be a couple generation behind new Android phones but there are tons of accessories for them.

You can do the same thing to a sportbike, though I prefer carbon fiber over chrome. The main difference is that when performance is a goal rather than looks, minimalism is usually the best route to take. I've dropped over 150K into my bike so far, and I would like to double that amount over the next year or two with planned upgrades- few of those were strictly for looks, though- I don't care about 'bling' as those modifications are often done to impress others- my mods are for me, and I don't care if they're not readily apparent to a casual observer.

There's nothing wrong with setting up a cruiser to be visually striking, but other types of bikes lend themselves just as well to modification, and you can spend years setting them up.

You could have a problem with any rubber parts degrading (especially fuel lines) if they're more than a few years old and not made of a material that can handle exposure to alcohol (this is especially bad if the bike sits for long periods)- a carb re-jet probably wouldn't hurt either.

OK, I can't let the above post go- it's too good.

You're the jumpy one who keeps harping on the same point- I answered your question in post #29, post #43, and post #45- how does someone who claims to be riding for 40 years on powerful bikes not understand why someone would do simple bolt-ons to reduce weight and increase power? How many times can you ask the same thing before someone is allowed to tell you to piss off? Five? Ten? With me it's three. You're an incredibly dense, frustrating poster. You don't 'discuss' thing- you ask a series of similar questions without comprehending the answers and you think that costs as intelligent discourse- it doesn't.

There's no way an 'experienced professional' would need to ask that question, let-alone fail to grasp the answers- I don't believe what you posted above at all- there's nothing you've EVER posted that made me think you were a competent, knowledgeable rider- really, nothing at all. You may have been riding a long time, but you're about as much of a professional as the average old lady who's been driving 50 years- it takes more than longevity to merit that label.

That was your implication.

You're too cowardly to own what you post and stand behind it- arguing with you is pointless.

Go ahead, have the last word- I'm done with you.

You can't even read and comprehend your own posts- now I have to go through them and explain them to you? Do your own homework.

The 'amulet and cheap helmet' was a troll (and obviously a very effective one as it really upset you), but certainly a more gentle one than your telling me I'm going to end up on a slab- again, read your own posts before criticizing those of others- you have written a lot of complete idiocy on this thread and many others.

I'd love to ignore you, but you had to keep poking at this thread where you had absolutely nothing useful to contribute (a running theme with your posts). I have a better idea, feel to ignore me.

I answered your initial question reasonably at least twice, and then you responded with your usual idiocy (I say 'usual' because I've seen so much of it from you on this forum), and actually came back with another post with the same question after your initial query had already been addressed, so you were looking for an argument- well, you got one- nothing seems to get through to you, you never contribute anything valuable or worthwhile, and (again) I've wasted time on you.

Your implication that gear is unnecessary if you ride at certain low speeds implies it's worthless unless you ride fast- that's moronic, and it gets really old pointing that out.

Sorry, but I think you're a complete fool when it comes to motorcycling- your posts bear that out- it's not my problem and I really should ignore people like you, but sometimes I can't help myself.

I tried to talk to you reasonably, but you're too dense to get it- there's no further point in making a real effort with someone so unbelievably clueless. You're the one who seems upset- I'm laughing at you on my end.

Again, only a completely worthless rider thinks gear is as valueless as you do- when some drunken or distracted driver knocks you off your bike, I hope your amulet and cheap helmet work better to keep you safe than I think they will.