Hans Rayong

With Thai Government Pink ID-card for Farangs it's no problem to fly domestic with Thai Airways or check in at any hotel in Thailand.

15 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

As above, not much use having a yellow book for a place you dont live in, plus you would need to go the ampher where the wifes property is (and prove you live there) to get the yellow book. If yellow book says you live in wifes hometown then thats the immigration office you would need to use, license address etc. You dont get added to the blue book to get a yellow book, we cant go in blue book.

12 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

The ID card comes from having the yellowbook,the yellow book generates the ID number etc, Its the same information. Most amphears the ID takes 5 minutes to print out after you have a yellow book. Yes a good idea to start with ID card instead of passport for bank, license etc.

Keep in mind if you open a bank account using ID card the account name is in Thai as per the ID. That is then what you use to operate the account  ((renew licence), you cant use passport to operate a Thai name account and vica versa.

I use my pink ID card at Kasikorn Bank. Now I don't have to worry about old passports.

In Sweden, people walk across a pedestrian crossing without looking because vehicles must stop. If they look before they go over, they look in the wrong direction because there is right-hand traffic in Sweden.

They told me last week that, if you have a one year retirement Visa O, you don't have to report until some days before your visa expire, not even coming from abroad, if staying at the last reported address.

How many countries are not issuing income letters anymore?

Only those Banana Republics who do not care about their citizens in Thailand.

2 hours ago, jcowle said:

What are the benefits of having a yellow book?

I live in Pattaya, has anyone had any experience of obtaining one here?

 

Thanks

John

Took me 30 minutes to get Yellow Book in Pattaya.

I stand as House Master in my Yellow Book, so I can report myself to Immigration.

Took me 15 minutes to get Pink ID card.
I was one of the first 10 Faranger to get ID card in Pattaya.
For example, you pay the same price as Thai when you visit the National Park.

All hotels (Hilton, Mariot, Dusit, Sheraton, Shangri-La) accept Pink ID cards, though they should not accept these instead of passports.

Get a pink ID card and you pay the same amount as a Thai. Thai driving license is not enough.

I live in Thailand with my family. If my children who have dual citizenship ask me to take them to the temple, why should I have to pay entrance fee? Will they also charge my children entry fee because they have a Farang dad? If this should happen, I would never take my children to any temple in the future. 

Many farang alcoholics in Pattaya travel around on trimmed electric bikes that can run at 100 km per hour.

Fully legal!

I pass these roadblocks one or two times every day in Pattaya. Has never been stopped. Always waved on.

39 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You should not have to do all that again. It was mostly needed to the get the ID number assigned to you which is not a citizen number. The 6 it starts with designates you are in the following status here.

6	Minority or Foreign nationals who are living in Thailand temporarily and illegal migrants.

Your number will not be changed.

When you cancel your current yellow book they will give you a form you will take to the new Khet/Amphoe for where you are moving to. If you move within the same district they would issue the new one when you cancel the existing one.

The above is true. I have moved several times and only took my certificate from the old amphur to the new one. One tip, when you get your yellow book, at the same time get a pink ID card. You get it almost for free, but can only be made after 3 p.m.

7 hours ago, davidst01 said:

whats the minimum age that one can transfer to a child?

No minimum age. 

My two sons own the house we live in (name in chanute). They are registered in the blue book and I am registered in the yellow book as master because I am the guardian of my sons. The children's mother is not registered in this blue book. Immigration Chonburi has accepted that I am a master and thus the one who reports that I live in the house.

I am 61 years old. I may not go for free as a Thai 60+, because I am not Thai (!). Instead I get normal get Thai price. 

In the private sector, I may enter as 60+ Thai. Free or reduced Thai price.

I had another problem with the name of my two boys.

Surname: "my family name"

Title / Name: Master William + "my family name"

Same with the young son.

So both boys have my family name as both name and surname.

My embassy did not accept that, so in the "farang" passport my family name is only mentioned as a surname.

57 minutes ago, JAS21 said:

On the plus side being a VIP customer entitles you to VIP Day tickets for the Motor Show .....................don't forget to mention it to him!

 

You seem to certainly had some problems ....

 

The oil job .. we have the same engine and yes they will charge you for 2*4Ltrs plus 2*1Ltr. if they change the filter and less if they don't.  I always say when booking in ...make sure that you give me the left over oil!! and I get it ...it will maybe come in useful one day but so far I have not needed to top up between changes. 

 

Our MY15 Everest T+ will be three years old next month ..has done just less than 30K Kms ... only problems crankshaft sensor and rear oil seal leak ... both QA of supplier. I am surprised that I don't see those in your list. I opted for both the extra 2-year warranty and paying up front for service ( I think 5 years ... need to check).

 

I think Toyota is good and now a close 2nd to the Everest .... I know that I will loose more money if I sell compared to Toyota but I like it so much it might last me out.

I've just mentioned what I know about. They have certainly done many things on the warranty without telling me.

The order came from London, not Bangkok. Brexit means that everyone who is abroad may blame themselves.

Has a similar case on my table. First you get half because you were married. Then you'll get half the half in heritage. Total 75%. Provided you have not signed a document that says otherwise.

4 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

 

Hypothetical question, but what would happen if your partner died & though you had your name on the birth certificate you hadn't legitimized the fact that you were the child's father?

 

Would the child be considered to be an orphan?

 

 

That your name is on birth certificate means nothing. Someone must be mentioned as father on the birth certificate. It may be a neighbor a relative or a fictional person. The child becomes orphaned until you can prove to the court that you are the father.

In most Western countries, the Mother and Father of the child get equal rights and obligations. Under Thai Law, this isn't the case. According to section 1546 of CCCT, when a child is born and the mother is NOT married to the father, the father has no LEGAL RIGHTS over the child. Only the mother has rights (and obligations) over the child.

A person could be named on the birth certificate as the father, but his rights are NOT legalized under Thai law. Even with a DNA test, he could be the father on the birth certificate and be the biological father, but he won't be the LEGALIZED FATHER.

There are 3 exceptions mentioned in article 1547:

1. If there is a subsequent marriage between the parents
2. If there is a registration made at the amphur
3. If there is a judgment by the Court.

Exception one is easily understood.

Exception Two is more complex: Both parents must consent that the Father is the legitimate Father and the local authorities (Amphur or Khet in Bangkok) will normally require the child to be old enough to understand and accept this situation.

In Thailand, each registration office is different and they often do not apply the same rules. However, they will normally legalize the Father ONLY when the child is over 7 years-old, able to sign his name, able to consent, and all parties will have to give their consent to the local registration office.

If the child is younger and there is an attempt to register the Father's rights at the amphur, the applicant is often told to get a judgment from the Court before it will be possible to legalize the rights of a Father. After a Court decision is rendered and, if it is positive, becomes enforceable (after 30 days), it is then possible to use the judgment to legally register the parent’s rights at the amphur.

Exception Three: Re a judgment by the Court, see the section below called "action to legitimate a child under a Thai Court".

20 minutes ago, Sumarianson said:

To get back to the original post. If the father has the necessary documentation from the local Amphur showing that he is the father and signed by the mother and child, then what would be the case if he removed the child from the mother? 

He cannot in this case be accused of kidnap as it is his own child 'legally'.

The police should not intervene in this case as it is a civil matter and not criminal. He could not take the child out of the country without the concent of the other parent. Without documentation legitimizing (in Thai) the parent and child relationship then you would be in a spot of trouble. A birth cert is no good as proof. The other parent along with the child can go to the local council offices to to legitimise the relationship if the partner or spouse is willing. However if not then DNA and a court ruling is required. 

"The other parent along with the child can go to the local council offices to to legitimise the relationship if the partner or spouse is willing."

The whole truth: The child must sign and the child must be old enaught to sign (I guess teenager). If not you must go to family court.

3 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

 

Hans Rayong,

 

I still feel you would be very ill-advised to take the children without intending to return them to their mother's custody. Things can go very wrong. You need to go back to court.

 I just responded to your text: "To clarify that further on a point of law,  you have to be legally married to her at the time of their birth."

If you have shared custody, neither the father nor the mother can take the child to another place without the other parent's approval. If the other parent does not give approval of the child moving, you must go to court and seek sole custody.

17 minutes ago, Esso49 said:

To clarify that further on a point of law,  you have to be legally married to her at the time of their birth. Otherwise you are correct.

You are wrong!

My children’s mother and me have never been married to each other.

Below extract from court order.

"The Petitioner has submitted a Petition seeking permission from the Court. After obtaining the aforesaid evidences supported by the Report from the Director of Chon Buri Juvenile Observation and Protection Center, the Court deems that the Petitioner has presented documents proving that he is the minor's natural father; therefore, the fact could be believed as true to the evidences given by the Petitioner, hence the Petitioner's request to register the minor as his legitimate child is for the future benefits of the child. Therefore, the Court has issued Order allowing the Petitioner to register accepting the minor; namely, Master XXX XXX, as the Petitioner's legitimate child."