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TIT,  just put your head in the sand like the rest and smile.

Reputation,  petty violence and crime, scammers and pricing has nothing to do with the exodus.  

On 4/19/2019 at 10:00 PM, RobMuir said:

There are many huge factory areas within a two hour radius of Bangkok and Pattaya.

Samut Prakan, Samut Sakorn, Donhua loh area in Chonburi, Amata city in Rayong all have literally tens of thousands of single girls under thirty.

It is amazing and you will rarely see other farangs. 

 

They are factory workers but a lot of them are in admin etc. I have even scored a few engineers, senior managers etc over the years. 

It really is like shooting fish in a barrel as soon as you get your game plan sorted. 

 

It is very possible to have three or four on the go. Many work the night shift, some work weekends and get a weekday off.

Get yourself a “dumb” phone if you want to play the field. A smartphone will bring you undone. This is important.

 

Also tell them you have contract work which will give you freedom to tell them you are busy and give you an excuse for not answering your dumb phone. Don’t join LINE etc.

I can’t remember exactly how many I have scored in the last nine years this way but it is well over 200.

All the factories have a different uniform. Get to know the uniforms as you won’t remember all of their friends you will meet, and it helps you spot people who might see you and give you up. You have to be aware that you will stand out like dogs balls being the only farang.  Most of the factories are Japanese owned but occasionally you will see a few farangs who work for farang companies.

 

They mostly go out straight from work in their uniforms and don’t go home to get changed first (too much traffic at peak times in these areas)

 

 

This is where you want to hunt. Even girls with real jobs in Pattaya, Phuket etc are generally spoiled and know too much about our bad sides. 

 

The upside with most of these factory girls is they are living away from their home villages, so away from prying eyes, families and neighbor gossip, so they are a lot easier.

 

 These factory areas have a great nightlife scene as they are full of young people who work and therefore have money to go out. Many are also quite lonely and bored if they haven’t made work mates yet. A steady stream of newbies arriving daily. Women generally outnumber the men two or three to one in these areas.

 

If you are in a pub, I suggest not approaching girls with males in the group. I never had much success this way, you end up wasting time speaking to the males and the girls just seem harder when males are around. They are more likely to slut about if in a group of girls.

 

Many have studied English to a certain degree and will enjoy showing off a bit talking English with you. Probably best to meet them on ThaiFriendly etc until you improve your game strategy.

 

Dont pressure them for sex on the first night. Don’t even expect to stay with them on the first night. They will end up chasing you this way.

If you end up staying in the same house, but In different rooms, act the gentleman and say goodnight. Then mention that you thought you saw a ghost there previously and it is very likely they will get scared after an hour or two and actually ask if they can sleep next to you.  

 

Best of luck, if you follow my advice you really won’t believe how much quantity and quality you will get. It is unbelievable.

Don’t do the bar sluts in Tourist areas. 

great read

7 hours ago, meechai said:

A couple of decades ago I was in your shoes

 

So I asked my future mother in-law (rest her soul) what was expected

They were poor farmers & she told me her daughter was not for sale but

should we marry she hoped I would take care of her daughter & hoped that we would be very healthy & happy together.

 

I knew then & there that this was a good family & I was not proved wrong.

 

Good Luck to you

 

Did the same. It was the sibblings pushing for it. I built mum a house instead. It was very much appreciated by all. 

It's not a COUP!!!!

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Sell it and buy a new one. Sorted

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It's about 60 km from udon Thani

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Anywhere near Nong Han ?

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I tried looking for expats in Bueng Kan through TV, no replies. The last day before I left to come back to Aus there were about 7 at the local Hotel. What I'm getting at is, not all expats are on TV, you might have to ask a few locals if they have seen any Farangs about.

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Sheep or a Goat, I spose it comes down to if you are a Kiwi or not really ?

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How many times must you be told, it's not a COUP.

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don't find someone.....buy a goat

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I think its a great idea , if the family will go along with it . Sounds like they will being the land arrangement . Rather than a lease I would get a usfruct or its called something like that and get it prior to getting married . This gives you total control of the land until you die. But what your doing makes good sense to me anyway . I paid sin sod to the parents felt weard at the time because I had not been in the country much . I also bought them some land which in agreement would be left to my wife . They are both still alive and the land is now in my wifes name .. What does concern me is the fact that you are going to be in very close living status with her family , but that's all a matter of taste . Not every Thai woman gets a house and then dumps her husband throws him out on the street .... When that does happen sometimes theres a pretty good reason ... So not all is Bad in the land of smiles ..

The dowry if paid will be 50,000 baht max, this can be displayed at the wedding. If it is not returned then that would be the end of the relationship. If it is returned to me I would feel confident in our relationship. The 50,000 baht would pay for the start of construction of the foundations after the rainy season this year. The more our relationship developes then the more confident I will feel to put more cash into the house. I am looking to the future and would not consider living permanently in the house for at least another 5 years so there would be no rush to throw a lot of money at the house straight away. One of the reasons for building the house is that I need something to do and I want to build a house in Thailand, how it should be built (in my opinion) and not to Thai standards. The recent earthquake made me feel unsafe in the rented house I am living in, so I would build a house to a higher standard. If everything works out with the relationship and the house I would save about 180,000 baht a year in rent when I eventually move into it. Before we move into the house permanently I can just spend the odd day in it while my girlfriend visits her family.

Sorry Keith, just have to say what is wrong with you?

You are thinking of buying a girlfriend a house, the chances of you living in it after it is built is extremely small.

I know so many white guys that have travelled this road and lost the lot.

You are already suspicious about Sinsot requests, you already know what sort of girl she is (20 years younger than you?).

Rent a house, buy a condo in your own name. These are your only sensible choices.

If you are desperate to buy her a house, let her get a bank loan, you make the payments.

What, she doesn't have a job?

Get real man.

We're on the same page Another One!!

How many guys buy a girlfriend a house back home,, wherever that is? Not many I bet, and even less if she's 20 years younger. This is a recipe for losing money.....sloooooowly.

Buy a condo in YOUR name, rent a house, anything but buying/building in her name.

As AOA says Keith, GET REAL !!!

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Sinsod is paid all the time. The important thing is for it to be shown at the wedding. Often arrangements are made to show it at the wedding, and then given back to the groom afterwards. Sometimes if the groom does not have the money, the brides parents put up their own money to show at the wedding, and then of course keep it after the wedding. Everyone saves face. Don't let anyone tell you that this does not happen. Believe it or not, just like the rest of the world, some marriages do last forever. Especially when you start in your 60's.

Absolutely correct. In the villages of Isaan its all about face and honour. If you fail to pay enough, your bride and her family lose face. As a farang you can obviously afford to pay more and should pay more. The amount is negotiated between you and your wife's family. If she is in good condition you pay more if she has been married many times and worked in a bar for decades you pay less. You can do a deal where the money is displayed and returned but that would be poor form for a rich farang. 10 years ago when I paid for my wife she wanted a four door pickup. I said I could only afford a two door so the deal was that part of the money was returned to me to pay for the more expensive pickup. All very civilised.

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They didn't explain anything of their culture, not sin sod nor anything else. In fact if they were to explain their culture to me why would the start with the part about giving them money?

I researched these things myself.

I also did not demand anything of them, I just showed them the bill for the wedding and explained my culture(as they could not be bothered to research it themselves) at this point they felt their culture was not important enough to mention to me again(I was still happy to pay it if need be). They still have not explained any other aspects of Thai culture to me......

And it was a great start to the marriage, a lovely beach ceremony that was enjoyed by all(including my wifes family) and the marriage is still going strong. In the end I was able to get over my disappointment of my in-laws lying to me as I still got to marry my lovely wife and start a family together.

I am not sure where you are from or if you are married but why would you place more importance on a foreign culture than your own?

i honour the culture in which I live. you have shamed the parents of your bride. where you gleaned the information is immaterial. all were aware you had it. manipulative games earn little respect.

You are the one who brought up where I got the information, are you saying your comments are immaterial?

I think you must have missed the post where I stated that I live in Australia and that I was trying to honour that culture.

So as you have said, if it is all about the culture in which you live then am I right in assuming that an apology is coming from you as you actually agree that our(my and my wife's Australian culture) culture is more important than my in-laws culture?

you were married in their culture.

Really? I had no idea that part of Thai culture was to get married on a beach in a Christian ceremony.

Is that really how they do things in Thai culture? I didn't realise Christianity played such a large part, can you explain it to me?

Or perhaps you would like more information before making inaccurate assumptions?

Or more likely you will make more inaccurate assumptions and continue to be wrong about almost everything you have posted.

Do you mind me asking if you are married to a Thai? If so how much sin sot did you pay?

Am I also right in assuming that as you live in Thailand then you follow every part of Thai culture?

My wife's mother, from Isaan, is also Christian and never expected a dowry. Hence a gift of building a house for her was appreciated.

Each to their own in all cultures.

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I have married a thai woman 4 years ago - mother wanted dowry and show of money. I declined both (Iwas not in the business of buying a woman - especially not a second hand one lol) and we had a great party. Then a built a 3.5 mil house on 10 rai's and paid over 300,000 baht to rebuild the mother's house. Not because I was asked to but because I wanted to. According to my wife everyone respects me here for the decisions I made.

She totally feels the same as I do.

You work for what you recieve, no hand outs.

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OP, I did the same. After meeting her siblings, who are alcoholics, gamblers or bludgers who would not work a day in thier life, I built a 400.000 baht home to keep her mother out if the dirt, which she formally lived in, a tin shack. Ever since we send a small amount to her to pay the bills and a little spending money which the siblings beg, borrow or steal off her. If I paid a dowry, it would be gone instantly with nothing to show for it.

If you feel the need, go ahead and use your excess money wisely and if you build, look at it like a permanent holiday home for you and your wife.

The maintenance will never be done if you are not there.

My home looked 20 years old after one year, so do t be disheartened upon your return as it will keep you busy doing repairs and so forth.

I have one room dead bolted with bedding, tools and my motorbikes.

Yes, the neighbours still call me stingy as I won't leave my bike for the siblings but I did buy 2 second hand bikes for them, which they sold and drank.

Don't expect much as the siblings will try everything to bleed you.

Enjoy and be happy with your partner and don't get involved in family drama as it never ends and will be costly.

Cheers.

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why do you assume his in laws will be as despicable as yours?

Maybe they are, maybe thier not.

I will leave that up to him.

Although the majority of farangs I have met who paid a dowry, the families have nothing to show for it except memories. Hence a house is better than a hangover.

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OP, I did the same. After meeting her siblings, who are alcoholics, gamblers or bludgers who would not work a day in thier life, I built a 400.000 baht home to keep her mother out if the dirt, which she formally lived in, a tin shack. Ever since we send a small amount to her to pay the bills and a little spending money which the siblings beg, borrow or steal off her. If I paid a dowry, it would be gone instantly with nothing to show for it.

If you feel the need, go ahead and use your excess money wisely and if you build, look at it like a permanent holiday home for you and your wife.

The maintenance will never be done if you are not there.

My home looked 20 years old after one year, so do t be disheartened upon your return as it will keep you busy doing repairs and so forth.

I have one room dead bolted with bedding, tools and my motorbikes.

Yes, the neighbours still call me stingy as I won't leave my bike for the siblings but I did buy 2 second hand bikes for them, which they sold and drank.

Don't expect much as the siblings will try everything to bleed you.

Enjoy and be happy with your partner and don't get involved in family drama as it never ends and will be costly.

Cheers.

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At the local pawn shop or melted by now.

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That is what health and travel insurance is for.

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Nong Han for sure, constantly waved passed road blocks when the locals are stopped and fined. I once stopped anyway and bib says, don't stop, we don't fine farangs here. Love the place. Been 5 years in and out and the bib seem to wave to farangs and enjoy the wave back.

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Wait until the second year of your relationship and don't splash your cash or there is a good chance you will end up with zero.

Read many posts on here re same situation first.

Good luck

Married my Isaan wife in her village in 1968. After raising our kids in the States, the wf and I retired back here. We live outside a very old rice farming village and find life here very good and peaceful. I believe it is true that most Thais see farangs as walking ATMs. Several of her family members often hit me for whiskey money, school fees, funerals or unlimited tam boon, Being family, they have no concept of returning any money but always like to let me know how good my next life will be.

if your silly enough to give it to them, what can I say. I would say the best is to direct them to your wife as she controls the money and you will see the difference

As my wife is the youngest of 7, she now has an outlook like a westerner. When we last went to see MIL, most brothers and sisters also came to visit. 4 of them hit her up for a 'loan' and she told them never again as she's been giving them money for 10 years now and never repaid. They all work, gamble and drink a lot. Needless to say that the day they were refused money they left without even saying goodbye to mother. So proud of her. A week later, MIL asked for a large amount of baht, wifey asked what for? She replied, your brother wants to buy another taxi, now mother lost face as she told her what she told them. Even prouder.

Stand your ground or it will never stop.

But they milked her dry of your money for 10 years. You should say stand your ground from day 1

Married my Isaan wife in her village in 1968. After raising our kids in the States, the wf and I retired back here. We live outside a very old rice farming village and find life here very good and peaceful. I believe it is true that most Thais see farangs as walking ATMs. Several of her family members often hit me for whiskey money, school fees, funerals or unlimited tam boon, Being family, they have no concept of returning any money but always like to let me know how good my next life will be.

if your silly enough to give it to them, what can I say. I would say the best is to direct them to your wife as she controls the money and you will see the difference

Stand your ground or it will never stop.

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