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5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Do you mean the old online report system or the mobile app?

I can go to the old site and do a check status using the reference number number for my report done on the the new site and it is shown as approved and I can print it or the receipt for the report.

It shows on the mobile app if you use the reference number to download it.

Now then, thanks to the comments by Ubonjoe that caused me to me to check again and do some more digging around, might be getting somewhere.  To avoid confusion, by the APP I mean the old IMM eService app (Android / iPhone).  By old site I mean the website page you could access  / use before the new site came into being.  

Yesterday, nothing would come up on either the old app or site other than old applications, prior to the one I made on 23rd.  As of today:

On the APP I can use the Check Status and if selecting 'By reference number' a list of applications comes up including the failed one from 23rd.  If I select that and follow it through to 'Download Application' nothing happens.  Maybe that's a current iPhone app glitch.  If however I search by passport details ONLY the applications that I made prior to the 23rd come up (approved and not approved). But it gets better.

What is the most helpful aspect though is that if I open the old SITE and search by passport details again it's only the pre-new site applications that show.  If I search my current pending application by reference number it's not there BUT if I search the rejected application number (from the 23rd) it DOES come up.  Also on checking the actual form by clicking 'View' it DOES show a reason as to why it failed in Thai! (Laek ti mai took dtawng).  In my case it's 'address number does not match'.  That obviously means something is up with the address but the number DOES match.  My residence is showing as a 'Hotel' and the building name was not there, not being a required field.  As an aside, my correct visa type also shows on the form (which we can't input), obviously picked up by Immigration.  They are clearly not bothering with the TM6 number either but the arrival date is there.

As it happens, as I type this, the email 'Approved' has literally just come back from Immigration.  The ONLY thing that I had changed was including the Condo name (from which they can clearly see it's a condo) and which has clearly corrected the 'address not correct' issue..

So for anyone getting a rejection you may be able to get the reason by going through the old site, searching by reference number and then viewing the submission.

Interestingly, if I search again using passport details the successful report I just made still doesn't show but I can find it by reference number.  My address still shows as a 'Hotel' though, obviously just including the condo name sorted it.  Maybe the address type etc will be ironed out in time.  Just glad to have got it working.

23 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

If you try to do a report on the old site it will redirect you to the new site.

The mobile app (android) is now linked to the new system since it will you show your most recent report done on it.

When opening the app before I got a popup message showing my permit to stay date but now it states is not available since the new system does not show your permit to stay date on the form you get when it is submitted.

Ah right.  The old app I can open up and log in OK but it only shows my previous reports made on the old system.  So I guess the old app must show the latest report on the new system only after you've been successful in getting one approved.  When I log in on the old app it doesn't show my pending application on the new / current system either.  I did notice the overstay status has gone.

The new system certainly seems much less glitchy for those that can get it to work.  Biggest problem for me though is when it doesn't.  Under the old system (which I will try again if I get another Rejected notice) the only occasion I got a reject notice I was able to log in and see the comments from the IO on the bottom of the submission notice, something I actually missed at first:

Now with this system there's nothing, just a PDF of the (partially completed) TM47 you submit.  I'm guessing (hoping) my rejection yesterday was down to not including the building name, despite it not being a mandatory field.  In the absence of the above facility to check for a reason though there's no way to check which is a massive step backwards IMO.  We should not be having to guess why a rejection is happening.

So while the new system seems to be better and less buggy at the submission stage, ultimately it's less useful unless you are fortunate to have it work on the first or, guesswork based, subsequent submissions.

If filling in the building name doesn't work I'll try the old system via the app.  If that still fails I guess it's down to my change of address despite having done a TM30 and using the new address when I renewed my extension a few weeks ago and will likely require a visit to MTT.

I did log in to the old system to see if there was anything there but of course TIT and the two systems are not joined up, can't say I was expecting them to be ????.  I'm not even sure if the old system / app are still working.  If I'm lucky, I won't need to try and find out!

20 minutes ago, JohnOFphon said:

First try was this Monday am rejected Tuesday late. Reapplied Wednesday am, reject again, just now.

No explanation, no reason, no help what so ever....Just love TI...don't you?  

Tomorrow there will be 7 days left before the due date. I will not try again...and again..just to get  rejected with no way to know what I did wrong. 

I will EMS with the required <deleted> first thing tomorrow. 

dirty words...dirty words.

 

It's definitely a PITA compared to the 'old' system in that I was able to check the rejection notice last time and found the note to re-submit with full name.  Back to guessing now.  So one step forward to steps back.

13 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

BOI stands for board of investment. Those that is for those reporting to the one stop center for those that are working for BOI companies and etc.

 

Have you changed your address at immigration?

I changed the address in that a) I did a TM30 for the new address and b) used the new address when I renewed my extension 3 weeks ago.  So yes unless the information hasn't read across or unless there's something else I've missed.

Just had mine come back.  Rejected but no idea as to why.  Will try again.  Hopefully it's not being rejected because I'm not filling in the information that there is no place to fill in (visa type / TM6 number etc).  I've no idea what the BOI box is for.  I'm guessing it's for work related. visas?  One thing I didn't do is include the condo name with the last one, I've included it now.  Other than hat my crystal ball is all out of ideas.

If this one gets bounced I'll try to use the old site/app if indeed those are still working.

I did change to the deposit method from the income method for my extension a few weeks ago.  Hopefully that hasn't thrown a spanner in the works needing a personal report.  First report at our new address too so that's another potential spanner.

Submitted yesterday at 08:00, got the 'application received' email at 10:30 same day, as of now (one day later) 'Pending'.  Fingers crossed no glitches.  Came back much faster using the old site.  Will give it another day or two.  I'm guessing you can't submit another application while one is still stuck Pending.

2 hours ago, Fookhaht said:

Jumped through all those hoops early-on, but thanks for trying to be helpful.

 

Yeah, the optional vs required name fields had taken a shift.  Following good advice on this forum about three years ago, I left all optional fields blank and my applications were accepted. Filling in optional feels seemed to get rejections regularly.

 

However, last December, when I tried this, I had two applications rejected. When I personally went to my immigration office, and presented them with the data, they said “Oh no, you have to fill in your FULL name including your given name and middle name for this to work!”  There must’ve been some change in the system’s requirements sometime in late 2021.

 

BTW, I just received an approval this morning from yesterday’s marathon attempts. For what its worth,  I had filled in all optional fields.  

Yes I was fortunate in that I didn't have to fix it by a personal visit.  The rejection notice I received contained a note to telling me to re-submit and fill in full name, that worked.

After never having a problem before I was rejected last time I did an online and was told to fill in my full name, despite only the surname being a required field.  Now on the new site, it's still only the surname that's a required field but I filled in my full name regardless.  Left the address building name out though.  Guess they are happy that they have what they need and can check themselves with regard to the other missing information (TM6 and Visa type).

Just submitted using the new website.  Seems much less clunky than the old one.  Oddly though, the details page did not include any questions regarding 'type of visa' or TM6 number?  After agreeing the form and clicking submit it brought up the TM47 form with those two questions left blank.  Not sure if they now prefer to check those details themselves or if it will come back with a request to fill those details in?  If the latter I guess you would have to fill them in on whatever form they send you because doing a new application would still not bring those details up?  Application is currently Pending.

It's the correct app.  Chonburi Hospital is the developer.

16 hours ago, xylophone said:

A few years ago back in NZ, I bought a latex mattress because it felt good in the shop, but after sleeping on it for a few months, I couldn't get comfortable because it seemed to have "indentations" where I would regularly sleep, so I sold it, along with the Slat-bed that came with it.

 

About a year ago here I bought a Sealy Posture (not posturepedic?) As it is a slightly firmer mattress, and it was on sale (point taken about the extortionate range of prices) and I found that to be about right.

 

However over the months my back and left hip started to suffer to the point where I was waking up tired, so I looked around for a latex topper and found a good one on Lazada which is now installed on my bed and it has made a difference, but I'm wondering if the fact that I am getting older and have had quite a few injuries, is counting against me, and for some reason I have thought about getting a softer mattress??

 

Still only a distant thought at the moment and not even sure that a softer mattress would help??

The Omazz Falcohn, latex, we used for 5 years was great, if very slightly too firm.  Never had any indentations though.  So many variables though, brand, materials, construction method etc etc plus of course personal preferences.  

I find a very hard mattress is not that comfortable for me, too may pressure points, I'm not keen on too soft either as I find them too hot.  Trying them in a shop is OK for immediately de-selecting those you might really not like but not much more use really.  Two minutes in a shop isn't the same as 8 hours, and definitely not 6 months.

1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said:

The springs are outsourced, in fact.

 

Probably the springs are made in China, one might think.

 

Maybe you might just sleep on the springs.

Maybe I'll just pay attention to the helpful and informative replies and ignore the stupid ones ????

4 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Before you buy an Ecstasy, why not first try a Hästens?

 

Might I suggest the Maranga, which is the epitome of cloud-like comfort.

 

No need to go for the Eala, which is overkill, in my opinion.

Happy enough to check them out but never come across anywhere that sells the brand, not turned up anything following, albeit cursory, searching either?  Where are they sold in Thailand?

That said, at a list price of $19,000 US I think I'll pass!  It actually seems like quite a flippant thread but with some, thankfully, serious, helpful and informative replies.

Old thread now but still relevant.  We are also in the market for a new mattress and, like TGJ I'm also looking at the Dunlopillo Ecstasy.  Had a stroll round both Home Pro and Central after doing some initial internet searches and also came the conclusion that the RRP of mattresses supposedly on 'sale' are wildly over-inflated, such as to bring the sale price down to a still overly-inflated sale price.  I guess they do it here because they can get away with it and there's always some sucker that will swallow it I guess.

We've swung back and forth a few times between pocket spring or latex, in some ways preferring the former for the supposedly better ventilation, but my wife is dead against springs of any sort, on the basis that regardless of how many there are or how well isolated they are they are, they are STILL springs.  I'd imagine you'd have great luck in pursuing a warranty claim if springs started to fail after a few years.  

In Malaysia we had an Omazz Falcohn which was very comfortable and, one of the most importance things to me, there was no disturbance if one partner gets up in the night for whatever reason.  Still can't decide on what might be better on that front, I thought the pocket springs would be better in that regard but, as we had no issues with the Omazz, I'd rather go for the latex option I think as opposed to the (prone to fail?) spring options.

I too have have found wildly differing prices for the Ecstasy and found the lowest so far at Shopee for 46K so I've mailed Dunlopillo with a screenshot as the opening play to negotiations.  Will see how it goes.

43 minutes ago, tlcwaterfall said:

Agree.  Compare the Thais English skills to the 2.2 million overseas Filipino workers around the world. I know I would much prefer to hire a Filipino or Filipina with good English skills compared to a Thai person with very limited English.

 

Thai people are at a huge disadvantage due to their poor education system and their governments lack of serious belief in English language tuition in schools.

Indeed.  The mandate for children to also learn Chinese will dilute that even further.  Other than 'suck up' that will achieve little.

55 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Yeah, many reports on this.

 

As near as I could determine they batch passports/apps, in bunches (five-ish?) for the three-level reviews. So the guy just ahead of me got in one batch and was out in 30 minutes. My batch was ~ 60 minutes.

 

 

Yeah, I'm sure the 1pm session didn't help.  Residue from the morning I suspect.  I think about 6 passports came back while I was sat waiting, one every 10 minutes or so, then nothing at all.  When the staffer came back it was a BIG box, could easily have been 20-30 in it, and it was full, unless there were other documents in there too.  Might be the same next year but I'll revert to a morning appointment if I can, just to take the pre-lunch residue out of the equation.

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

I have done several extensions all at CW all with out ever changing address.

I have never done a TM30 in my 10 years in Thailand. 

I rent condo BKK.

Most recent extension was Nov last year. 

No TM30 and no 90 day report.

 

I have also done the same.  Neither your or my experience makes anything Immigration policy though.  There have also been reports of people who have not had a TM30 and been told to do one.  One person's account doesn't make it the norm and not doing / having what is needed is all fine, until it isn't.  What you, nor anyone else, absolutely cannot say for sure though is what the IO was / was not looking for in my case.  What has happened to you historically is irrelevant in that regard.

I was required to do a TM30 in when I first moved to Bangkok 7 years ago (from elsewhere in Thailand, the year count is largely irrelevant too).  Since then I was never asked and it was never checked.  Then earlier this year I renewed my passport.  Went to CW to transfer the stamps, TM30 not checked.  Then went to MTT to do my first 90 day report in person (you have to do the first 90 day in person with a new passport) and the TM30 in my old passport pre-dated an exit / re-entry I had done in 2020. I was told to update it.  Luckily, I already had updated it by self-registering on the TM30 app and was able to show her the phone screen, I had just never got round to replacing the original paper TM30 in my passport.  After that I printed the screen shot and now leave that in the passport.

What has happened to anyone one, ten or fifty times doesn't validate that experience as being policy, it also does not stop the IO asking for something that the law says you should have.  Getting away with not having it and/or not asked for x for # years does not mean it's policy and does not mean a person won't be asked.  What Immigration wants can and does change, often depending on the IO at the time, and often just in a few cases.  Others are free to do whatever they want, but I prefer to have everything that I should have and might be required rather than be left scurrying around because I don't have it, regardless of how many years I may have got away with it for.  YMMV ????

I have not been able to use Embassy letters since the changes came about.  Up until now I've used the income method with monthly transfers, needing to show they were international (FTT) both by way of bank book entries, statements and (in the first year) Credit Advice slips which the IO didn't look at and handed back to me.  So, I did the same this year, being certain that they would want proof of compliance with the previous renewal method which is what I came to understand reading all the previous posts here.  I would certainly not veer from that even now, it's simply not worth the risk.  It's the mere fact that she wasn't interested at all that surprised me.  She did not even open those bank books, just handed them back, discarded the statements and bank book copies for that method, merely clipping them to the bundle at the end.  Whether anyone looked at them I don't know, nobody will.

In addition, nobody can say whether she was looking for the 90 day report or not, one person's guess is no more valid than another.  All I am able to say, as the one that was there, is that she did rather purposefully flip through the passport, got to the place where the 90 day was stapled in, removed it, opened it up and read it.  So she sure seemed a lot more interested than just "oh what's this piece of paper".  Take from that what you will.

As I already stated in the OP, I HAD changed address so maybe that was why she was looking for the TM30.  Again, though nobody can be sure what was in her mind.  But,  change of address is one of the two reasons they might check for a TM30, the other reason is that they might be checking to see that you have a TM30 for your current address, whether you have moved or not, so it's not ONLY if you changed address.  Change address or not, you should have a TM30, depending on how much they are bothered.  One explanation though could be that they ARE looking for both.

Two things I did leave out:

I was on time for my appointment at 1:00 pm.  The checking process was all completed by 1:15 pm.

The wait for the passport however was the longest it's ever been.  1 hour and 20 minutes.  There were a LOT of people waiting for passport return from the morning session (I spoke to a guy who pointed out several that had been there before 12).  We even went for a period of 30 minutes before my passport was returned when there was no gradual trickle out of passports every 5-10 minutes, which was a bit odd.  I'm guessing there were potentially two reasons.  First off, the bottle neck has always been the final sign off and passport return.  Being the first in for the afternoon session could still leave your application quite a way down the approval queue from when they 'downed tools' for lunch at 12.  Previously, when going early morning I've only ever waited 30-45 minutes for the passport to come back.  Secondly, maybe they've changed the process to keep staff traffic within the building down.  Passports only started to come back this time when the staffer returned with a fairly big box full.  Either way, I will try to do morning appointments in future, as early as possible.  I can't recall when the first appointment time is, just so long as I have time to get to CW to hit the bank and get my letter and bank book updated.

On 1/28/2022 at 4:35 PM, Stocky said:

I use Wise to transfer from HSBC Singapore to Thailand, I was tired of 'intermediary banks' coming back for a slice sometimes weeks after the event.

This is what stopped me using HSBC to transfer from the UK to Thailand with their supposedly flat £4 transfer for Premier customers. For a couple of years it was then several years ago something changed (and I've seen numerous accounts of what the reason might be) and very hefty intermediary charges started appearing too at the time of the transaction.  A year or so ago I tried another transfer and was surprised to see no intermediary charge, thinking things had gone back to normal, I did another test.  Luckily I didn't do a full transfer, just a couple of small test amounts to two different accounts, this time they both got hit with intermediary charges 2+ weeks later!  Took me ages to actually find out what these mysterious charges were too as there was zero information provided in online banking, literally zero, just a debit of funds (nothing like 'international transfer fee', no reference number, absolutely nothing).  Complained to HSBC, as much about the total lack of information as anything, and after much to and fro they finally admitted the information they provided was inadequate.  I'm not sure if it's still the same now, if I was in a position too I would have closed the accounts with them, as it is, I use them as little as possible.  I was told the same as @Stocky too, if I wanted precise information I would have to pay an investigation fee.

The oddest thing is, not everyone seems to be affected and can still get the flat rate fees.  To this day I have been unable to find out what the reason is (the bank that they send to? some other combination).  I've even tried deleting payee accounts and setting them up again but getting hit with intermediary fees makes it expensive to play around with different combinations).  

4 hours ago, jonnyscot said:

Ok although this delivery was valued at only 1300, still was sufficient value to incur the Duty, in fact the full invoice was almost double the cost of the contents,

 

absolutely no issues for me since I claim back these costs anyway, I think in more than 10 years living here I may have faced this on one other occasion so not something I do on regular basis,  but just posted to try to have an understanding of the procedure and how it works.

thanks for all the replies.

Was that using a courier?  It's certainly not normal.  Unless what was in the package qualified for a higher rate.  THB 1,300 would normally not get hit at all.  

Things that I've imported I've never had the insurance and shipping costs taken into account by Customs.  Just 10% (I believe the rate can vary depending on what the goods are) on the declared value (duty) then 7% on the combined value (VAT).  So THB 5,000 declared value would be THB 500 in duty then 7% on THB 5,500 = THB 385.  Total 5,885.  Anything under THB 1,500 is exempt but I've had several packages above that value ignored too.  Depends on how busy / bothered they are I guess.  Just avoid using couriers if at all possible.

2 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

I prefer an independent report on their performance.  So, no.  I've not read their report.  Kinda like reading an assessment of Ford by the CEO.  Right....a bit biased.

Might be an idea to check the facts before suggesting the report was prepared by the WHO itself.  It was an independent investigation commissioned by the WHO and conducted by the Independent Panel for Pandemic Preparedness and Response, so actually no, absolutely nothing like reading an assessment of Ford by its CEO at all.  The facts are out if you take the time to check before jumping to incorrect conclusions, but hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your own narrative.  In addition, the report actually identified the serious shortcomings on the part of the WHO so even that aspect doesn't even support the point you are trying to make.  Like derrr ????.  

We all choose what to place value in with regard to 'articles'.  Even the WHOs own investigation and report into their performance with regard to Covid reported on the two key issues I mentioned above.  Did you even read THAT article, maybe to busy engrossed in smug self-righteousness?