BillyBobzTeeth

53 minutes ago, elviajero said:

If they do agree to change it to 60 days your wife or child will need to be with you, and they will almost certainly want more paperwork. ID/Tabian Baan (for family member) and maybe a TM.30 (address) report.

Haven't applied for the 60 days ext yet just popped in to ask for forms, then the confusion started lol

14 minutes ago, elviajero said:

No this is not correct. They can issue a 60 day extension to visit your spouse/children for any type of visa entry.

13 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

That is not correct. You can apply for the extension for any type of entry.

There is no mention of any visa category in clause 2.24 of the police order for extensions.

Thanks for quick reply guys, I'm going back there, I hate telling them they're wrong lol the last time I went there for a 60 day ext I was given a 1yr stamp date by mistake and had to go back with my passport, they apologised and corrected it to 3 months instead!  I got a call 30 mins later asking me to go back again to correct that mistake too.

I'll just apply for the 60 days and hope for the best but will show them clause 2.24 of the police order for extensions if I get that lady again spouting the same stuff.

I'm almost at the end of my last 90 day entry but I can't go to Imm to get my usual 60 extension or renew my visa just yet so my Q is, if I go to the land border, can I get 30 days visa exempt? If I can get the 30 days exempt at the land border crossing, I plan to go to Imm when that finishes and get my usual 60 days ext

On 8/24/2018 at 6:17 PM, ubonjoe said:

Yes you can do it. But avoid the Poi Pet crossing to Cambodia.

UPDATE:

I managed to get two 30 day visa exempts back to back and I'm coming to the end of my last one so I went to Immigration to do a 60 day extension based on wife / children and a member of staff said I can only get 30 days not 60 days.

Staff said you can't get a 60 day extension off of a 30 day visa exempt stamp based on family, you can only get 30 days for 1900 baht and If I went there at the end of my last 90 days entry I would have got it okay.

I just want to check is this is correct?

3 hours ago, elviajero said:

I think they are saying, badly, that the 30 day visa exemption scheme doesn't add 30 days to a Tourist Visa Entry. They aren't referring to doing 'visa runs' (exit/entry for a new VE 30 day stay).

Went to the border today, the Immigration officer looked at my passport and asked what are my plans.

I told him I plan on going Laos to get another Non O Visa and asked him I'm allowed 2 x 30 days exempt entries in one year right? He didn't answer, I told him I have 3 kids with a thai wife and said he will help me this time by giving me 30 days. 

I'm not sure I'll risk that again, with him suggesting it was a let off.

I know we're entitled to to 2 x 30 day exempts entries a year but the "up to the officers discretion" still plays an important part towards the end result at the Satun border.  

19 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

No it does not.

I am not sure why that statement is even there since it is about "Validity of visa and permitted length of stay".

Thank you UbonJoe ?

I'll be going to the Wang Prachan border is Satun, will let you guys know if there are any problems. 

On 8/24/2018 at 6:17 PM, ubonjoe said:

Yes you can do it. But avoid the Poi Pet crossing to Cambodia.

Not sure now ? Is this saying I can't do it?

http://www.thaiembassy.org/london/en/services/7742/86306-Validity-of-visa-and-permitted-length-of-stay.html

**30-day visa exemption scheme is NOT counted as extra days you can stay in Thailand.**

19 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

Yes.

Enter on new Visa - 90 day entry + 60 day extension = 150 days.

Border run - 90 day entry + 60 day extension = 300 days.

Border run - 90 day entry. (only stay 65 days until Visa expiry date). = 365 days.

Border run - 90 day entry + 60 day extension = 515 days.

 

Renew Visa - repeat.

" Border run - 90 day entry + 60 day extension = 515 days.

Renew Visa - repeat."

I'm almost at the end of my last 90 day entry but I can't go to Imm to get my usual 60 extension or renew my visa just yet so my Q is, if I go to the land border, can I get 30 days visa exempt? 

I don't have any 30 day exempts in my passport as always had a Marriage Non O

If I can get the 30 days exempt at the land border crossing, I plan to go to Imm when that finishes and get my usual 60 days ext and after that to savannakhet to get another Non O.

From UK

Thanks 

9 hours ago, steve187 said:

get her enrolled in a  school, the same as any other UK/EU national. they will give her some extra English schooling as required, the same as EU children, so she not be the only one 

get your family allowance sorted, doctors, etc

why do you refer to her as Thai

Thanks Steve will get right on it!

Just so used to calling her Thai lol but yeah she's now British 

5 hours ago, theoldgit said:

As a matter of interest, and not really relevant to your question, but is the childs mother staying in Thailand?

Yes she is, we're not together anymore, we didn't marry but before I came to the UK, she gave me a letter of permission saying she could come to the UK which I had translated. 

I'm married to another Thai with a son and one on the way and plan to bring them all back to the UK when the baby is older.  

So used to calling her nationality as Thai lol but yeah you guys are right, she's now British also.

I'm going to the school this week and will get her registered at the local doctors.

Would love to hear how any of your kids have adapted the the UK lifestyle.

Thank you guys 

Fellow members,

I brought my Thai daughter to the UK 2 months ago, she's 11 years old and it's her first time here on her new British Passport. She loves it here so much she doesn't want to go back. I've spoken to her Mother back in Thailand and her and her parents are all for the idea. My sister here in the UK has a 5 year old son and my daughter gets on great with them both and wants to live with them. My sister is okay with that but I'm not sure what steps I need to take next.

 My sister and I want to make sure all this is legal and we're not breaking any laws, does anyone have a breakdown of what we should do next to make this all go smoothly?

There's a good school close by but I imagine my daughter would struggle with reading and writing in English so I guess she would have to drop down a year?

What documents would I need to take to the school? I have her original BC and a certified translation in English showing my name on it. 

I need to go back to Thailand next year in Feb but will be coming back 6 months later, so do I need to somehow make my sister a legal guardian and how do I go about doing that?

Any help and guidance from people who've been through a similar situation is very much appreciated.

Thank you! :) 

31 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Of course she can travel to the UK with a one way ticket since she is a citizen of the UK. She could stay there for the rest of her life if she wanted to.

You will likely be asked for proof here mother has given her consent to leave the country.

Thanks UbonJoe, 

I thought the same but had to ask to be on the safe side, ya just never know these days lol.

Will get that letter of consent sorted before we go, cheers mate!

Morning chaps,

I have a 10 year old daughter who lives with me. Her mother and I broke up 4 years ago and we never married. 

My daughter has a Thai and British Passport and I'd like to know, can I take her to the UK on a one way ticket with the intention of bringing her back after Christmas.

Will an airline refuse boarding if she doesn't have a return ticket but is a holder of a UK passport?

It's just like me going back to the UK on a one way ticket isn't it, now she's got her British passport she's free to stay as long as she wants within reason right?

I know she has to stamp out on her Thai passport and back in again when we return but I just want to check all is okay before I buy the tickets.  

I can get a letter from her mother giving me permission to take her if that helps. 

The simple reason for one way tickets, funds are tight right now and I plan to buy our return tickets in the UK before we come back.

I should mention - This is not a kidnapping plot, I have a wife, a son and a baby on the way here in Thailand so I'm defo coming back. 

Thank you! 

4 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

Only if the child was born on or after 1st July 2006. Prior to that children born outside the UK could only inherit their father's British citizenship if their parents were married at the time of birth or married since.

 

BillyBobzTeeth, your daughter is 10, so presumably was born after this date.

 

Up to you, but it really is no more complicated than applying for your own passport.

 

Remember an agent cannot fill in the forms nor gather the required evidence, such as your long form birth certificate; you'll still have to do that!

 

See Overseas British passport applications

Yeah, someone on another post also mentioned the agents are not needed. I'm going to do this all myself, thanks for the heads up. 

My daughter's 10, she was born Oct 2016, so she's just scraped through regards the British citizenship entitlement, thankfully. 

I'll be going in April and will write a detailed report of how it all goes for anyone else who needs to do it.

Thanks for your advice, much appreciated! 

1 minute ago, blackcab said:

It's pointless using an agent. You have to supply all the documents - every single one. All the agent does is walk into the building and hand them in. The only thing they can help you with is translations, which are very easy to organise 

Thanks for that, I just mentioned on another post I'd need an agent but after what you've just told me I won't bother.

If you can think of any other tips or advice to help make this easy, please let me know mate. 

Much appreciate any help you can give.

Thank you

Just now, brewsterbudgen said:

She can have dual citizenship and if she has a claim to British citizenship (through you) she needs a British passport not a visa.  The application form is fairly complicated and you will need to complete/sign it, as it will be your (long-form) birth certificate that is required.  You could use an agent for the whole process (for a fee!).  They will help you fill in the forms, deal with the photographs and the certifications and take the whole lot to Trendy for you.

Thanks mate, 

I think to save a lot of headaches and time I will use an agent.

Can you recommend a good agent and tell me their cost please?

On 2/26/2016 at 10:14 PM, spoon1967 said:

Hello mate.

I'm hoping to go through this process in a couple of months, did you need to take the child to Trendy in person?

as well as all the colour copies, did you need to tak the originals for them to see?

I suppose I will need a translated copy of my divorce cert instead if marriage (probs take both)

How did it all go for you mate? 

Can you give a breakdown of how your application went please?

I need to do this myself for my 10 year old daughter so any details to make this smooth sailing is much appreciated.

Did you use an agent? 

On 2/26/2016 at 10:57 PM, blackcab said:

You definitely don't need to take your child.

I did take all originals but they didn't ask to see them. Sods law if you don't take them though...

You need translations of everything not in English (or Welsh, if that applies).

Would you recommend using an agent to get all this done without headaches or was it pretty simple and easy to do mate?

It's okay guys I've found the info! 

Did another search and found this link which explains it - http://lovepattayathailand.com/babys-first-uk-passport/

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, you guys have helped towards making a Nana very happy, cheers!

3 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

You don't have to be married to the girl's mother to get your daughter a UK passport. You just need to be British "otherwise than by descent" yourself (i.e. you were born in the UK).  It's fairly easy to apply in Thailand via The Trendy in Bangkok. 

 

 

Thanks for getting back to me guys, sorry to sound stupid here but what is the Trendy in Bangkok?

I did a quick search and found something relating to http://www.vfsglobal.co.uk/ but when I visit this site it seems to be about visas not passports. 

Can you give me a little more information of what needs to be done please.

I should add that my daughter isn't British she was born in Thailand, has a Thai ID card and Thai passport, sorry I should have mentioned that before. 

Can my ex take my daughter to Bangkok and get her a British passport without me or will I need to go with them?

Much obliged, thank you!

Hello guys,

I have a 10 year old daughter from a failed relationship. I'm on the birth certificate only as we didn't marry. I haven't been able to do anything regards getting my daughter British Citizenship due to difficulties with her mother. I'm on speaking terms with the mother now, after a long feud.

I'm married with a 2 year old son, living in Thailand with my Thai wife and my daughter's mother is also married with kids to a Thai fella.

My mother who lives in the UK has been to Thailand 4 times to see my daughter but can't make it this year due to back problems. I have permission from my ex to take my daughter to the UK for a holiday to visit my mother. My ex has told me she will sign any papers and help anyway she can to get our daugher to the UK, so my ex isn't going to be a problem and is totally supportive of it all. 

My questions are, what is the best way to get my daughter to the UK for a 4-5 week holiday?

The mother and I are friends now and she's willing to help so is there anyway I can get my daughter a UK passport? 

If getting a UK holiday visa for my daughter is the only way, then who applies for that, me or my ex and would I need to be with them for interviews or signing papers etc? I live in the South and they live in the North so need to plan ahead if that's the case. 

If anyone has been in a similar situation, could you please let me know what you had to do to get your child back to the UK for a holiday. 

All advice much appreciated,

Thank you!

( Overstayers Be Careful Before The Borders )

I went to get another Multiple Non O in Savannakhet about a month ago and talking to a guy in Mukdahan, he told me quite a few foreigners were caught by the police with overstay before they could get to the border, a sly move indeed by the BIB, so be on the lookout for checkpoints before the border, IF ya have overstay.

Thanks for your reply.

Defensive driving I certainly will be, I'll take it a step further and make it a 4 second rule the wife has banned me from going over 80 km! Char char as they say

What time of day would you say the roads are at their quietest?

We plan on stopping in Hua Hin on the 2nd leg of the trip, ya right it's a lovely place.

unless your driving a boat not so much choice its 41 and 4 both are suicidal roads as the only way to go .dont be under stress ! as you near Bangkok you have a lot of choice , personally i take 35 then join expressway to get out ASAP. 9 is the ring and busy although east side quieter as you have to pay .perhaps not bad to break journey in Hua hin , I happen to like the place . drive carefull ...drive DEFENSIVE !

Hello fellow Southerners,

Could you tell me your experiences of driving from Hat Yai to Surat Thani then onto Bangkok regards the safest route to take please.

Thinking of taking road 41 for the first part which seems to be the obvious choice and shortest route but what's that road like compared to road number 4?

I'm travelling with my wife and 8 my month old son so don't want to put them on dangerous roads and conditions if I can help it.

We fancy a bit of a road trip and a look around so not flying or taking the train this time. I'm only driving in daylight hours and we'll be stopping at a couple of places on the way.

Any advice appreciated thank you!

The file I posted the link to also has the same info in Thai that could be shown at that border crossing.

That's worth a shot!

To me, he didn't look like the type of person that would appreciate being shown what the rules are lol so I avoided that but worth a shot for the braver folk out there for sure.

If you are from the UK you do get a 30 day entry at a border crossing under the G7 country rule.

From: http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/doc/services.pdf

"** If such nationals enter the Kingdom at the immigration checkpoints which border neighboring countries, they will be allowed to stay for 15 days each time, except (1) Malaysian nationals who cross the borderline from Malaysia, (2) Nationals of the G7 countries: USA, UK, Canada, France, Germany, Italy and Japan, whose granted period of stay will not exceed 30 days each time.In addition, such nationals who hold diplomatic and official passports are also practically exempted from visa for tourism."

Yep! Agree, that's why I tried but they were having none of it at the Satun border Joe. I think that's why the Satun Imm Office lady said "up to him"

They must be aware of people being told otherwise by border Imm guys.

I'm not saying this applies to all borders but if anyone has similar circumstances to mine and you're going to Wang Prachan border in Satun, I would ask before you stamp out, what the rules are "that day" or you could find yourself not allowed back in.