punisher

How about CCTV on beach road in Phuket and Patong. Surely they would show the jet ski mafia extorting baht from tourists under the threat of violence.

How to do if the owner of the jet ski rental is a policeman,or the police gets 50000bt tea money per months?

air asia charge 5-600 bt per ticket if buy at counter

Why do you expect Thailand to be cheap? Its the 21st Century, Thailand has far better infastructure etc than Europe, lets be honest, most of Europe is third world compared to Thailand..get used to it..the Euro will get worse and Thailand will be more expensive than ever.

What infra structure are u talking about? If an average person makes 15000bt a month in Thailand but in Europe 50000,then somebody should exspect Thailand to be cheaper.Anyway I still think if stick with thai products or thaifood then Thailand still much cheaper than Europe,I can not remember to find a place in Germany for example where u can get a meal for 25-30 bt

Also 12-15 yrs ago i got easy a flight to Thailand for 18-25000bt with a normal airlinle like KLM,Air France or BA,today for 20000 u not even get a one way flight for ,At that time people said"well maybe the flight to Thailand is more expensive than flight to Spain or Italy,but the low costs in Thailand makes it a cheap destination",that sure changed,but that has to do with the oil price and the greed of airlines.!5 yrs ago u bought a ticket for 20000bt,10-15 was tax,today u buy a ticket for 40000 but 50% is tax

Why do you expect Thailand to be cheap? Its the 21st Century, Thailand has far better infastructure etc than Europe, lets be honest, most of Europe is third world compared to Thailand..get used to it..the Euro will get worse and Thailand will be more expensive than ever.

What does this have to do with anything? This is a red herring that occured almost 30 years ago, and that's assuming that it is indeed a fake document and not just a mistake on the copy.

But this whole thing is nothing but a smoke screen to deflect attention away from all the wrong doings going on with the PTP, Thaksin and the UDD.

Concentrate on the real issues.

It is not important what happened after samak had to go.Point is democrat friends here in Thaivisa say document faking to avoid military service is a minor thing,or smear campagne,well it is not and if it was known before then i think Abisit would be still in UK,never got the chance to be PM of Thailand,of course only if u measure with one standard

How is raising an important issue a 'smear campaign'?

if it is can we also agree the the sexual misconduct allegations against the elected pm also a smear campaign? i am just wondering what constitutes a smear campaign in your head, is it anything against your beloved abhisit is a smear campaign?

Giving this much attention to a minor issue is infact a diversionary tactic by PTP to take people's eyes away from the serious PTP crimes being committed on a regular basis this last year.

A 1986 paper on a draft dodge is not an important issue relating to the problems facing Thailand in 2012.

Its an issue, but not an important issue. Please refer to my first post to see what defines an "important issue" in the minds of Thailand reformists. Please notice that PTP have avoided tackling all of those important issues in favour of an obsessive 'absolve-Thaksin' policy, and now this draft dodge non-story that is only of interest to the most pettyminded.

Every day is 500 baht fine and a stamp in passport notating the overstay may be issued. Exit from airport and less than two days overstay no fine payment will be required - but if two days overstay fine of 1,000 baht will be due.

OK, I get it:

Just 1 day overstay = no fine

2 or more days overstay = B500 a day including the first day.

Thanks

SO!!!.. why is Thailand advertising in the Media, for Foreign Investers to come here.....

If the Constitution court has ruled that there was no intent to overthrow the "system", why is this still an issue?

That is in the bills as there were presented at that time.

What the final intent was, as stated by EVERY SINGLE MP

stating their written reasons for doing it is another matter.

Well if the final intent has been proved that there was no cumulative intent to overthrow the head of state etc. there was obviously no individual intent. It's not as if MP Somchai is going to state

"I Somchai do honestly declare that by voting for the change of Article 291 so that a CDA can be formed I was looking to overthrow the head of state etc."

Surely only members of the PAD, it's supporters and the 5 petitioners of Article 68 can be that stupid to believe that is the case?

However this is what happens when the CC has different interpretations of the law each time it looks at something.

Nothing about intent was proved.

Only that the documents as written didn't break the constitution.

Nothing more -nothing less.

Intent may be proved from the MP's statements,

especially if one or two (accidentally) actually tell the truth...

Thank goodness.

At least for a while we still have a stable government elected by the people that has not been ousted by some ploy or other.

Hopefully the country will now get it's act together and move forward.

We don't need yet another year of turmoil.

We don't need another year of turmoil. Now, this government should focus on what they are supposed to be here for: working for Thai people. They have been here almost one year no, and we are still to see something. So far, their achievement is a vast emptiness, and a huge collection of broken promises.

What you are telling me is PAD,demorats,royalist,army and bkk elite propaganda,the reasons why thaksin got removed are the following,

he suggested ,it might be a good thing to re think the status of monarchy in thailand,he tried to take away power from the military,he told bkk elite to back off and let him work,,he had all those 3 parties against him,I guess it's only by accident that those 3 parties are the back up of democratic party,eieiei,thaksin is probably a selfish bad guy,but the bs, they removed him for being a dictator or because he sold AIS to Singapore is just another lie,he was to powerful for the establishment,that why he had to go,why u think they are so scared he comes back to Thailand?They are scared because thaksin will kick ass,if u look into past of Thailand then u will see, exactly same stuff happened over and over one coup after another,I don't need thaksin back in Thailand but its is tiring and boring what the establishment is doing,if they not stop Thailand will never move on and keeps the status as banana republic

Thaksin didn't "try to take away power from the military". He tried to put a relative in charge of that power.

Thaksin wasn't removed from anything, except maybe care-taker PM.

The people were protesting against him for changing the law so that he could sell his shares. That is why he called an election only 12 months after the previous election. Then he couldn't form government because there were "no result"s in too many electorates.

welcome to Thaibodia.

Any of the usual red sycophants care to comment?

Thak Sen anybody?

Phnom Thep?

After thaksin said he will cut military budget,he got kicked out,after thaksin was removed the military raised the budget by themselves 66.6%,wow thai military they are really the good guys,1973 uprising 72killed 1000's injured 1976 student massacre,people got hanged,raped, burned alive,beaten to death,40 died 100's injured,1992 uprising again more than 70dead,2010 over 90dead including foreigner 1000's injured,and the real cool thing is,never anybody got punished because they smart enough to give themselves amnesty,but maipenrai blame red shirts ptp trt,or thaksin or yingluck

2010 black cloth people blocked the street, had AKA-47 and M-79, a lot soldiers got shot, many building got burned down and you want to punish the army???

thaksin was removed because he made himself dictator in a single party parliament after a fake election and the coup got triggered when he sent paramilitary border police to shoot the mostly elderly women of the PAD. The military that made the coup is now working for Thaksin.

Don't forget to mention these facts as well.

he suggested ,it might be a good thing to re think the status of monarchy in thailand,he tried to take away power from the military,he told bkk elite to back off and let him work,,he had all those 3 parties against him,I guess it's only by accident that those 3 parties are the back up of democratic party,eieiei,thaksin is probably a selfish bad guy,but the bs, they removed him for being a dictator or because he sold AIS to Singapore is just another lie,he was to powerful for the establishment,that why he had to go,why u think they are so scared he comes back to Thailand?They are scared because thaksin will kick ass,if u look into past of Thailand then u will see, exactly same stuff happened over and over one coup after another,I don't need thaksin back in Thailand but its is tiring and boring what the establishment is doing,if they not stop Thailand will never move on and keeps the status as banana republic

welcome to Thaibodia.

Any of the usual red sycophants care to comment?

Thak Sen anybody?

Phnom Thep?

After thaksin said he will cut military budget,he got kicked out,after thaksin was removed the military raised the budget by themselves 66.6%,wow thai military they are really the good guys,1973 uprising 72killed 1000's injured 1976 student massacre,people got hanged,raped, burned alive,beaten to death,40 died 100's injured,1992 uprising again more than 70dead,2010 over 90dead including foreigner 1000's injured,and the real cool thing is,never anybody got punished because they smart enough to give themselves amnesty,but maipenrai blame red shirts ptp trt,or thaksin or yingluck

Could u explain that in detail please?

The LM laws have nothing to do with the 2007 constitution.

The 2006 coup leader is in bed with the PTP writing his next amnesty as part of the amnesty bill.

The German constitution rightly says that Parliamentary decisions that affect certain areas such as sovereignty need to be approved by the upper house

no one voted for the tea party either.

The PTP and its coalition partners are the elected government. That is not a sham.

A government run by a convicted criminal fugitive in Dubai is not a sham?

Convicted by the same people who take full advantage of the current constitution,u know what is a shame?Yesterday an US citizen got released from a Thai prison,he was in jail because of the current constitution.Coupleaders from 2006 get free,because they changed the constitution in their favor.In germany right now the highest court has to decide if the fiscalpact and ESM,is against german constitution,Current german government put pressure on the courts decision by remarks like"if u decide this or that,this can happen"So if Korkaew warns what could happen after a negative[for ptp] decision.whats wrong with that?Did u forget the pictures from almost civil war in bkk 2010,it's a warning not a threat

What a load of bilge. The product of an I'll informed mind

no one voted for the tea party either.

The PTP and its coalition partners are the elected government. That is not a sham.

A government run by a convicted criminal fugitive in Dubai is not a sham?

A Thailand government (PM who chooses a cabinet) is elected by MP's, who are elected by the people.

Get your facts right.

The fact is Abisit was choosen by the army,they kicked out 3 different pms first,then they had enough of free elections,and appointed abisit,correct or not correct?

Why don't you do some useful reading? Then, rather than guessing, yuou can make some informed remarks.

See you in a few months.

well the how about army who make megamuhu money in the south and far north,or how about the other 2 parties?All 3 hv no interest in giving there power away,like I said thailand could move on if all those parties who care only about their power and money would go away,and let thailand have a new start with new government,no red no yellows

In addition to the "if only" daydreaming that the redmob apologists always engage in as a factory default-setting, what happened in the past is not relevant to 2010.

In 2010 we had a stable government under Abhisit who had instituted policy bills for infrastructure development, helping the rural poor and fighting corruption. The actions of Thaksin in 2010 were against a non-tyrannical regime who were working to improve the lives of the rural poor.

So you must take the context of the uprising. Thaksin funded and encouraged in 2010, arson and murder in the capital city to overthrow a government who had actually created long-term infrastructure improvement projects for poor people. That same government allowed the redmob protests and offered early elections.

Can you please explain how arson and murder speeches by the redmob improved the lives of normal Thais, or were somehow an improvement on the policies of the Abhisit government. It was an entirely unneccesary assault on Bangkok by Thaksin in 2010, they could have waited for elections and voted Abhisit out and nobody would have died. Thaksin chose to not wait for elections, or to even accept the early elections offered, he chose murder and arson and I challenge you to say his actions were warranted in 2010.

I hope she has found peace, and my condolences once again to her family.

Who is guilty of causing her and many others' deaths? It is the man who funded and instigated the armed uprising, and ordered his followers to "burn all of Bangkok to the ground". If they had tried to follow his direct orders thousands would have died.

He is in Dubai, and we know he is guilty of all 90+ deaths because he paid for the armed mob to march on Bangkok and he ordered them to "kill the elites" and "burn Bangkok to the ground" and he did so on television and big-screen stage shows, and his redmob leaders gave the speeches including those lines quoted above. How this can not be seen as incitement to mass-murder, is one of the strangest legal mysteries I have ever seen. How he can not be responsible for all deaths caused by his armed attempt at city-wide arson, is a genuine question.

When DEA arrest street-level drug dealers, they are always after the top-man, the place where the money-trail leads and the person who is guilty of organising the drug supply network and hiring the street dealers. Organised violent crime as pushed by Thaksin and the redmob 2010 is no different, the man at the top is guilty of the whole network. How can Thaksin not be entirely guilty of all those deaths?

This is onesided thinking.There are 3parties who rule the country here,one party can't be procecuted because it's the law,another party is the army,the army coups whenever party number one feels threatened,the army makes mega billions of baht in south and far north,and they not listen to anybody,they just do what they want to do.,party no3 is bkk elite,,bkk elite is not interested at all to change anything,because then they loose their status and loose money,then u hv thaksin,who tried to crack down on those 3 parties not for the countries good but for his own good,anyway not fair to blame thaksin for all. Thailand could move on and would be a great country,if all those selfish parties would shut up and go away,and let new generation of thais rule the country,no more thaksin or abisits no more sutheps or jatuporns

And this is the OTHER side thinking.

How about balanced thinking.

OK. On the balancing side, it is the (WO)MEN IN BLACK (Thaksin paid guys) who killed her from the rail. These guys (gals) in camouflage by dressing in army clothing, as Army ALREADY confirmed that they have no (wo)men on the BTS.

This is possible right?

This is onesided thinking.There are 3parties who rule the country here,one party can't be procecuted because it's the law,another party is the army,the army coups whenever party number one feels threatened,the army makes mega billions of baht in south and far north,and they not listen to anybody,they just do what they want to do.,party no3 is bkk elite,,bkk elite is not interested at all to change anything,because then they loose their status and loose money,then u hv thaksin,who tried to crack down on those 3 parties not for the countries good but for his own good,anyway not fair to blame thaksin for all. Thailand could move on and would be a great country,if all those selfish parties would shut up and go away,and let new generation of thais rule the country,no more thaksin or abisits no more sutheps or jatuporns

Its not one-sided, it is just basic logical linear thinking, as is used in criminal cases to determine ultimate guilt. If Thaksin had not funded, instigated and encouraged the mob to burn and kill, they would have stayed at home and nobody would have died. Therefor Thaksin is guilty of all resulting deaths.

if the army did not kick thaksin out we would never had burning and killing

If Thaksin had not been a grand-larcenist and nepotist who gave and estimated 30% of Thai state funds to contracts for his family businesses, and murdered over two thousand five hundred people, the army would not have kicked him out.

Great thinking,your daughter got killed,u know by who,government and court refuse to work on the case,then u would let it go?Who is Abisit?A guy nominated to be Pm by untouchables and army,half of the country did not like him to be PM,then why they should listen?

No one knows who killed her. Isn't it the current government that is refusing to work on the case?

Abhisit was the leader of the largest opposition party at the time of his election as PM. He was elected by a majority of MPs.

Current government don;t want to work on that case,because they probably still try to convince the democrats to let thaksin come back.A goverment is elected by the people not by MPs,the democrats did not get a majority at elections last 12 yrs i think.If A has the majority of votes Then B can't say "we are the government"if it is like that,then why people should go to elections?

A Thailand government (PM who chooses a cabinet) is elected by MP's, who are elected by the people.

Get your facts right.

This is onesided thinking.There are 3parties who rule the country here,one party can't be procecuted because it's the law,another party is the army,the army coups whenever party number one feels threatened,the army makes mega billions of baht in south and far north,and they not listen to anybody,they just do what they want to do.,party no3 is bkk elite,,bkk elite is not interested at all to change anything,because then they loose their status and loose money,then u hv thaksin,who tried to crack down on those 3 parties not for the countries good but for his own good,anyway not fair to blame thaksin for all. Thailand could move on and would be a great country,if all those selfish parties would shut up and go away,and let new generation of thais rule the country,no more thaksin or abisits no more sutheps or jatuporns

Its not one-sided, it is just basic logical linear thinking, as is used in criminal cases to determine ultimate guilt. If Thaksin had not funded, instigated and encouraged the mob to burn and kill, they would have stayed at home and nobody would have died. Therefor Thaksin is guilty of all resulting deaths.