Misab

5 hours ago, Misab said:

Thursday 14th at 5 AM  red alert  AQI is now 154

Recommendation, avoid outdoors activity, avoid ventilation, mask recommended, air purifier recommended.

 

Also I will recommend that you download an app on your phone about air quality and follow it because right now it is not good for your health.

 

 

Thursday 14 at 10.30 AM  a heavy shower has cleaned the air a lot. QAI has fallen to 69 which is moderate.

Thursday 14th at 5 AM  red alert  AQI is now 154

Recommendation, avoid outdoors activity, avoid ventilation, mask recommended, air purifier recommended.

Also I will recommend that you download an app on your phone about air quality and follow it because right now it is not good for your health.

9 minutes ago, gimo said:

       Where in Thai is the pollution so bad that you wear a mask ?  Don't come to the east of Australia . There's been a lot of smoke in the air for months .

When pollution is above 100 you should wear a mask

Hua Hin; air pollution is far above what is healthy.

AQI should be below 50 but today 13 of November it is 150 late afternoons.

Is this normal for Hua Hin ?   And what is causing it? 

I have COPD and I should certainly stay indoors.

On 11/12/2019 at 10:26 AM, WinnieTheKhwai said:

 

That's pretty much everywhere in Thailand right now.  Not a local issue.   Keep in mind we're in Asia; this is what Asia is like and always has been.   You just have cool real time apps right now with pretty colors.

Thailand need to change their motorbikes into electric motorbikes, you can buy them anywhere in the World but difficult in Thailand.

Also, all the trucks there send massive smoke out because they have non or no oil filters are great problems.

But as they say, this is Thailand.

First when turist stay away because of pollution then something will happen. In the meantime stay inside. 

On 11/2/2019 at 9:38 AM, robblok said:

Yes but your comparing long stayers with tourists and that is wrong. You act like the lack of tourist is caused by junta its rule and it is not. Tourists are still treated good its just us long stayers (a small percentage compared to tourists) that have a problem. Not everyone off course because in reality without the tm30 nothing much has changed (unless you were one of those of the 3 embassies that stopped giving the income letter)

We always read about 3 embassies, How can The USA, England, Australia and Denmark be 3 embassies?

I don't think it exist, as far as I know there was one company there accepted customers until 80. After 80 it renewal only.  Look here 

 http://www.bangkokinsurance.com/long-stay-visa/

Fantastic. Mostly Chinese tourist as I understand it and they spend on average 48.000 Bahts each.

Good for Thailand.

Who is discussing this topic? Is the very rich Farang trying to get rid of the not so rich farangs?

Why discuss it at all, why not just let it be.

It would be an excellent idea if the people along Thailand’s rivers were told not to throw their garbage into rivers, perhaps show them pictures of the damage it causes in tourist areas.

5 hours ago, Yinn said:

The surplus this year will reach $34 billion, he said. Thai economic growth is expected to expand by 3.5 per cent in the fourth quarter, while growth in the third quarter is estimated at 2.7 per cent.

 

The Thai economy is predicted to expand 2.8 per cent for the full year. 

 

The US-China trade war and Brexit would largely determine the direction of the global economy. Uncertainty about the trade relationship and the Brexit deal has led many central banks to ease policy in order to shore up economies

 

 

Thailand ok. If world slump, we will be ok.

 

 

Don't believe all you read

20 hours ago, steve187 said:

only 48% of those that voted

Thank you, jump

He’s absolutely right. It is a farce. EU should give UK 2 weeks to make up their mind and then out, with or without a deal.

Enough is enough

On 10/4/2019 at 2:03 PM, JimShortz said:

I just had a single plane roof completed on a new build house. For an idea of costs, my roof at 26m x 9m was:

Covering: Bluescope colorbond galvanised steel, with white colour bonded on top and 25mm of bonded insulation underneath, cost just about exactly 100k Baht including delivery, flashing and and all fixings, but not including the actual installation (that was done by the people who constructed my steel roof frame as part of the price for the whole job).

 

Roof structure: all done with high quality steel box section at 2.6mm thickness, except battens at 2mm. The whole building area 26m x 7m had a 4" square ringbeam and the same beam down the centre of the building. The 3" x 1.5" rafters are them placed at 1.5m centres and 2" square battens on top at 1m centres. Rest assured that this is a super strong structure if done with good s

On 10/9/2019 at 4:12 PM, JimShortz said:

I certainly agree that single lengths is great to ensure a leak free roof, even in the fiercest storms. My lengths were 9.1m and almost unbelievably they came on a pickup with a special frame fitted (see picture earlier in the thread). I also agree that the 2 or 3mm glued on insulation with reflective foil massively cuts down heat transfer and deadens the sound of rain. I fitted it on my outdoor bathroom that I built ahead of building the main house and I am very happy with it. Mine's been on for a year and hasn't sagged or fallen apart yet, but I have seen many that have. I don't know how you go about choosing the good stuff? I guess I was just lucky. I bought that from Lion Steel in Hangdong, Chiang Mai. I'm glad to hear yours is working out well for you.

I also want to share in more detail, for anyone interested, the alternative way I chose for my main house:

For my main house I chose the "hard" bonded insulation from Bluescope and am super pleased with it. I also went for the foil bonded on its underside to prevent heat radiating downwards, but if you were leaving it exposed there is a paintable option too. The bonded insulation actually gives a flat ceiling to its underside and I have seen a friend leave this exposed on a "lean to" to his house and painted it to match the house - it actually gives a decent flat ceiling and looks good.

The real reasons I went with the 25mm bonded insulation is that it is much quieter during rain and very little heat passes through (25mm insulation makes a significant difference compared to a couple of mm). I have a gypsum ceiling fitted 8" below the roof (at the same angle) with no rockwool and have mosquito proof ventilation all the way along both the top and bottom eves.

The idea is that air enters at the bottom eve, passes between the gypsum and the well insulated roof covering, and any heat and moisture that is there leaves at the top eve. I have to say that it works really well - physics in action I guess! The idea behind no rockwool being installed is partly to save money on something not needed with this system, and also to let heat out through the gypsum at night. It seems that with the well insulated covering and good "attic space" ventilation the rockwool isn't needed - at least on my house (my gypsum ceilings are just at ambient temperature, even in the middle of the day). I also went for a white colour on top since the way my house is situated you never see the roof anyway, and it is by far the most reflective colour - again keeping the heat out of my tiny attic space!

My covering with the 25mm bonded insulation cost B100,000 including fixings for a roof of 26m x 9.1m (237 square metres). That works out at about B420 per square meter for covering (including fixings and flashings) with no loft insulation to buy. Not super cheap, but not bad either and is certainly one way to a quiet, cool, and cost effective roof. YMMV!  ????



 

steel, and no cheap C sections. Painting, welding (excellent seam welding all "linear" joints in ringbeams, rafters and battens), installation of the Bluescope covering and flashings, and installation of fake wood fascia boards, by a really good team of three welders cost me B60k Baht in labour + about the same again for steel.

Total roof cost about 220k Baht - an absolute bargain for a very strong and highly insulated  and reflective roof!  And it's not noisy or hot at all either; the bonded insulation is fantastic.

PS, I originally planned it with 1m centres for the rafters and it was the main man at Lion Steel who said for this structure (only 3.5m between each ringbeam that the rafters cross) that was excessive. He said I could go as far at 2m, using quality steel of decent thickness, but I compromised at 1.5m and am super happy with the decision.

I also think I got great welding because the guys could seam weld the decent thickness steel (I weld fairly well myself, and thin steel is a bitch, it just melts away, leaving holes). I also bought them 10kg of good rods so that they wouldn't be shy with them!

 

Thank you Jin Shortz, as I understand it total price about 1000 Bahts per square meter 

On 10/10/2019 at 3:20 PM, cheeryble said:

 

We had The roof on mom’s original bungalow and verandah I built extendedA couple of meters or so With no insulation as it’s just at the edge.

Where we joined Mum’s Bungy to the main new house with a room 3 m wide x 5m long on the back the guys have used what I think you’re talking about, a profiled firm insulation.

We will probably slap some Chiprock GYPROC underneath it as I think that insulation will be enough as in your case.

So the job will be to attach the Jip rock to the raftersThere. Do you think the best thing is to attach timbers 2*1 First with hard as nails glue then screw the chip rock or will the Jip rock screw straight into the rafters Which after all are quite light weight?

 

 

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Thank you very much Cheeryle much appreciated.

On 10/2/2019 at 5:09 PM, cheeryble said:

Get the sheets with the glued on 3mm foam with reflective coating.

Decent quality so the foam doesn't come off, but we felt no need for the best Bluescope..........if we have to change the sheet in 10 years or whenever it will be cheap, frame and fascias already there, the sheets up in a day.

Also didn't feel the need for hidden attachments.

If you combine the thinly (but surprisingly efficaciously) insulated sheet with above ceiling Rockwool you,ll be well insulated for heat and noise, I've now been through storms and its a pleasant muffled sound.

Go to a supplier he will calculate the prices quickly.

Thank you

On 10/15/2019 at 6:57 PM, onera1961 said:

I don't think embassies are responsible for finacial difficulties their citizens face in a foreign country. However, I do agree that thre three embassies abaondoned their citizens to the mercy of Thai immigration and they indeed stepped up and provided them refuge by allowing montlhly transfer of money method. So, kudos go to Thai immigration for this humanitarian acts to Wesstern people who fill up this forum with Thai bashing. 

There are not three embassies there have abandoned their citizens there are four. USA, England, Australia and Denmark.

21 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Maybe we should compare this to what Thais need if they want to visit other parts of the world, i.e. Europe... 

Well, Thais don't pay triple price in Europe to visit something, like the Eiffel tower

I believe it is much more than 1,5%  Bahts have strengthen over for Euro with 12,5 % this year alone.

Your friend's motorbike might have an insurance but it does not cover if the bike is driven by a person without a license.

On 10/4/2019 at 2:03 PM, JimShortz said:

I just had a single plane roof completed on a new build house. For an idea of costs, my roof at 26m x 9m was:

Covering: Bluescope colorbond galvanised steel, with white colour bonded on top and 25mm of bonded insulation underneath, cost just about exactly 100k Baht including delivery, flashing and and all fixings, but not including the actual installation (that was done by the people who constructed my steel roof frame as part of the price for the whole job).

 

Roof structure: all done with high quality steel box section at 2.6mm thickness, except battens at 2mm. The whole building area 26m x 7m had a 4" square ringbeam and the same beam down the centre of the building. The 3" x 1.5" rafters are them placed at 1.5m centres and 2" square battens on top at 1m centres. Rest assured that this is a super strong structure if done with good spec steel, and no cheap C sections. Painting, welding (excellent seam welding all "linear" joints in ringbeams, rafters and battens), installation of the Bluescope covering and flashings, and installation of fake wood fascia boards, by a really good team of three welders cost me B60k Baht in labour + about the same again for steel.

Total roof cost about 220k Baht - an absolute bargain for a very strong and highly insulated  and reflective roof!  And it's not noisy or hot at all either; the bonded insulation is fantastic.

PS, I originally planned it with 1m centres for the rafters and it was the main man at Lion Steel who said for this structure (only 3.5m between each ringbeam that the rafters cross) that was excessive. He said I could go as far at 2m, using quality steel of decent thickness, but I compromised at 1.5m and am super happy with the decision.

I also think I got great welding because the guys could seam weld the decent thickness steel (I weld fairly well myself, and thin steel is a bitch, it just melts away, leaving holes). I also bought them 10kg of good rods so that they wouldn't be shy with them!

 

Thank you Jim

On 10/2/2019 at 5:09 PM, cheeryble said:

Get the sheets with the glued on 3mm foam with reflective coating.

Decent quality so the foam doesn't come off, but we felt no need for the best Bluescope..........if we have to change the sheet in 10 years or whenever it will be cheap, frame and fascias already there, the sheets up in a day.

Also didn't feel the need for hidden attachments.

If you combine the thinly (but surprisingly efficaciously) insulated sheet with above ceiling Rockwool you,ll be well insulated for heat and noise, I've now been through storms and its a pleasant muffled sound.

Go to a supplier he will calculate the prices quickly.

Thank you 

On 9/25/2019 at 6:18 PM, eyecatcher said:

Metal sheets, they dont make steel tiles.

Profiled metal sheets start at about 180bt/m2

4*2 structural steel say  300bt/m2

Cheap 2" insulation 50bt/m2

 

Thats a cheap charlie building a shed standard.

Quality job, double it.

Okay, maybe I am using wrong words, buy these are the one I mean

On 9/25/2019 at 6:18 PM, eyecatcher said:

Metal sheets, they dont make steel tiles.

Profiled metal sheets start at about 180bt/m2

4*2 structural steel say  300bt/m2

Cheap 2" insulation 50bt/m2

 

Thats a cheap charlie building a shed standard.

Quality job, double it.