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Seastallion

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  1. I was reading the Melbourne Age yesterday. Included was an article by a reporter recalling his visit to Hepburn Springs where he dined at a place serving chowder run by an American expat. Tucker was very good, but he pointed out a map that was hanging on the wall. It was of the states but it featured the North East, starting below Washington and most of the West Coast. The rest was blanked out and labelled Dumbf..kistan. Any comments?

    I used to have a similar map, in the east coast it had NY, NJ, Connecticut ,in the west coast it had California, Texas

    and in between it had a few mountains and it said Bla Bla Bla laugh.png

    Why was Texas mentioned on the map?

  2. The behavior of NGO's within Israel is as biased, dishonest and agenda driven as UNRWA or the left wing press. It is a matter of record that EU taxpayers money has gone to groups supporting and inciting violence, it is high time their activities were curtailed or a at least scrutinized.

    Here is a link detailing the long list of incitement and antisemitism coming from within UNRWA, so this problem goes as high up as UN agencies. Amnesty international are just as bad, it is a matter of easily verifiable fact. The lesser known agencies are just the same, hence long overdue government action.

    http://israelbehindthenews.com/report-despite-unrwa-promises-teachers-again-inciting-to-violence-against-jewish-apes-and-pigs/14091/

    And where does your Zionist propaganda link run by David Bedein get their money from? It is precisely to stifle the other side of the narrative that the OP bill is being proposed.

    If Israel has nothing to hide by freedom of speech, what's the problem?

    I do realize truth has no currency with obsessive Israel demonizers, if it did then there would be nothing to discuss here.

    I think you should think about the implications of what your reply suggests.

    You appear to be saying that all the right wing "information" and opinions are the truth, and any opposing "information" or opinion is false and simply demonisation,

    I think you'll find that you are very wrong. If you were honest about it.

  3. I guess Israel should feel very flattered. So much international interest in little details like the timing of returning the bodies of terrorists and such like. Must be magical people living there.

    And there you have it folks: Minimise the individual atrocities and human rights breaches, to feebly attempt to make them insignificant and isolated, all the while trying desperately to divert from people seeing the sum total of these degrading, frustrating, deathly, and/or criminal breaches.

    It all adds up.

  4. Naturally, the families care.

    But beyond that all those who want to milk this to gain more support for the terrorists cause, which is based on a total lie that Israel is changing the status quo at the Temple Mount, that's who.

    What provoked this conflict is more than the status quo at the Al-Aqsa Mosque.

    It is the relentless expansion of illegal settlements and the radical Zionist's refusal to live within their 1967 borders.

    Indeed, smoke and mirrors. Try to make out it's one issue, and try to make out that the issue is both minor and false.

    50 years of brutal occupation, humiliation, degradation, theft, murder, and untold other crimes make for a severely disgruntled occupied people.

    That sums it up very well.

    It's remarkable how the truth of this situation can be stated concisely to demolish the deceitful one-liners and verbal diarrhea of Zionist propaganda.

    Thanks.

    And they have the hide to call these fed-up occupied people terrorists in their own land and villages!

    Suicide bomber in the middle of Tel Aviv....terrorist. But terrorist with an understandable gripe albeit misplaced for targeting civilians.

    Stabber in his own home town that is occupied...freedom fighter.

  5. "Israel has refused to return bodies of dozens of Palestinians to their families."

    This is in direct violation of Hebrew Law, International Law, and the Geneva Convention....what? Nobody else noticed?

    They are Islamic TERRORISTS. No one else CARES!

    Naturally, the families care.

    But beyond that all those who want to milk this to gain more support for the terrorists cause, which is based on a total lie that Israel is changing the status quo at the Temple Mount, that's who.

    What provoked this conflict is more than the status quo at the Al-Aqsa Mosque.

    It is the relentless expansion of illegal settlements and the radical Zionist's refusal to live within their 1967 borders.

    Indeed, smoke and mirrors. Try to make out it's one issue, and try to make out that the issue is both minor and false.

    50 years of brutal occupation, humiliation, degradation, theft, murder, and untold other crimes make for a severely disgruntled occupied people.

  6. "Israel has refused to return bodies of dozens of Palestinians to their families."

    This is in direct violation of Hebrew Law, International Law, and the Geneva Convention....what? Nobody else noticed?

    They are Islamic TERRORISTS. No one else CARES!

    There is nothing to suggest Islamic terrorism. Even JT concedes that Islam probably has nothing to do with it. There is nothing to suggest terrorism or Islamic extremism. There is much to suggest they were fed-up and at the end of their tether freedom fighters.

    Your words could easily be changed to other points of view:

    From an Afghan tribesman WRT US marine bodies: They are invading infidels, no one cares!

    From an Hamas fighter WRT an IDF bodies: They are Zionist occupiers, no one cares!

    Well....the families of the dead care in all 3 cases.

  7. "Israel has refused to return bodies of dozens of Palestinians to their families."

    This is in direct violation of Hebrew Law, International Law, and the Geneva Convention....what? Nobody else noticed?

    Israel is not a theocracy. It is the homeland of the Jewish people though (including secular and atheists). Jewish is not only a religion. Israel is a democracy with some theocratic aspects, but you could say that to some degree about most democracies. I'm not defending (or supporting) not returning bodies. I am pushing back at your red herring about Hebrew law. For those who do follow Hebrew law for burials, I'm not sure that it's relevant to non-Jews ... though I don't know either way. Perhaps a religious Jew can inform. Yes religious Jews are supposed to do quick burials of Jews, that is true.

    BTW, the dead we are speaking about were terrorists killed because they launched terror attacks knowing/wanting to be martyred. Their families probably supported them in their quest for martyrdom. I don't respect that and I have a problem with those that do. Palestinians have legit concerns but this isn't helping.

    I don't really understand the reasons Israel holds bodies and personally I don't care very much if the bodies they are holding are bodies of terrorists. So I guess I'm neutral. I know many people get emotional about this stuff. To me as a non-religious person, a body isn't important, once dead. Some crazy haters want to wrap Muslim bodies in pork, that is sick, but it could be argued getting crazy about dead bodies is also kind of crazy. Dead is dead. Cremation is best.

    So much spin in one post!

    Israel is not a theocracy, yet you are very fond of pointing out that it is "the one tiny Jewish state blah blah yada yada". When it suits you, Israel is a Jewish state, when it doesn't suit you, it's just a state.

    On top of that, it is a fact that ultra-orthodox and orthodox Jewish theocrats hold sway in the Israeli government.

    On top of that is the Zionist foundation of Israel.

    So Hebrew law about burial may not apply to non-Jews.....what happens when Islamic law applies or doesn't apply to Jews....that's just discrimination in your book. Muslims are discriminatory, Hebrews just follow their laws. Double standard, again.

    No, the dead are people who have been killed by an occupying force ex-judicially. Maybe terrorists, maybe not. You do not know.

    I bet you do not know the reasons Israel holds back the bodies....I bet you have a good idea of the reason though, just as I have: To humiliate and frustrate and to prod.

    Oh, so the Druze guy that Israel assassinated last week who was released 8 years ago in exchange for Israeli bodies, should not have been released, right?

    I agree with you there...but a significant number of Jews disagree with us.

  8. Even if she is playing the woman's card, it seems fair enough to me. I'm sure many people (esp. men) will vote against her because she is a woman.

    If I could vote in the US, I'd vote against her because she just lies and lies and lies. Also, she is responsible for the ambassador's murder and won't admit it. If Palin was standing, I'd vote for her ( oh, there goes your misogynist argument ) because she's got bigger balls than all of the men standing, other than the Donald.

    I suggest you watch a few Youtube vids of Palin interviews and speeches.

    I'm not sure who the bigger dunce is, Palin or Bush, but I am sure that Palin is the bigger hawk, as Bush was led by the nose by Cheney et al.

  9. Consider if you will that perhaps the Malaysian authorities were being careful regarding who they admit to their country.

    I seem to recall an incident a couple of year or so back where Israeli military types entered another sovereign state on forged passport, many of those passports were cloned from citizens around the world without their permission. Once in the country the military types murdered another person.To be fair the Israeli's do seem have a certain notoriety in the passport forging and cloning field

    Can't blame the Malaysian authorities for being cautious in who may or may allow not enter their country whatever the excuse may...

    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/irish-passports-used-in-hamas-killing-by-israel-were-forged-94687919-237696781.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Israel%E2%80%93New_Zealand_passport_scandal

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Mahmoud_Al-Mabhouh

    You point out some truths, I well remember the disgusting NZ case. however in this OP I doubt it is the case.

    Malaysia would have issued visas, but the Israeli athletes declined to comply with the conditions that were set. Reading members posts here, you may be forgiven for thinking that Malaysia banned Jews from entry....victim card spin and deceit and not the situation at all.

    Oddly, Israel supporters on the one hand condemn Malaysia for setting those conditions, yet warn other Jewish visitors to actually follow those conditions! Bizarre.

    The story is all about "We are victims of bigotry", yet they created the situation themselves by refusing to comply.

    As sportsmen, they could have gone. Malaysia would have let them in, but no, they had to have a tantrum for the media.

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