MrGaoMungGawn

How many monitors do you typically simultaneously use while commenting and reading TVF?

And why do you use one, or more than one.

Here is one

Reason why you should use at least two:

Thailand's Internet is SLOW. That is why.

If you have two or more monitors, you can be reading other comments while you are waiting for your prior comment to upload, and thinking about and composing you next Topic on a third screeen, while you are explaining to your friends in your room on a 4th screen, just why some commenters are better than others, and why they win special prizes and accolades from TV members.

Probably the optimum number of screens is about 5 connected to one computer and mounted on movable stainless steel brackets.

I am sure there are here on TVF some savvy investors who have discovered the same monitors they use for investing in NYC and LONDON and TOKYO and MUMBAI

Can also be used to post almost simultaneous comments on TVF IN .......... BKK?

Anyway, this question has been burning a hole in me for many months,

Who likes to use more than one.

And who uses only one.

Please not only mark the poll,

But share with us your reasoning,

Just as I have here.

I hope to better understand what the hell is going through our minds,

Half the time.

Thanks,

Mr. Gao

Stop giving authorization to open all American junk food chains it's a real pollution for Thailand! Promote healthier things that crappy macdonalds, pizza company or even Starbucks.

I wouldn't go that far but I would suggest enforcing that they be required to offer healthier options, label them so, and priced without bias towards the glop. I think in the USA these chains are doing that because they feel the pressure and fear laws to come. Here they've got NO pressure. Big companies like that usually need an incentive, negative or positive. No, I'm not naive, I know most people go there for the crap, but banning companies entirely seems unfair when it isn't the company or the nationality of the company, but the actual foods that are the problem.

Sorry,

I could not resist.

Won't happen again.

Nobody likes taxes.

But the way I look at it sugar particularly sugary drinks is a disease promoting substance on par with ciggies.

In fact, it is arguable that obesity causes more global deaths than ciggies.

So if you're against tax on sugar and think subsidies are OK for sugar, by logic, wouldn't you also be for eliminating all taxes on ciggies?

That would be consistent yet oddly there really isn't much public opposition to tax on ciggies.

Well.cigarettes are addictive and there have virtually always been a control.on the age at which you can smoke.

Imagine if it was banned to give coke to kids under 10. They would be out of business in a year. Cigarettes can probably withstand taxation far more robustly than sugar. Also its an ingredient not the primary product consumed.

Its similar but not quite the same.

If you were to increase the price of sugar ten-fold, how much would the cost of a tin of wholemeal coke increase?

It would be a bit of a scunner for the jam-makers amongst us, but they're mostly died-in-the-wool recidivist neo-conservative grandmothers anyway.

SC

Precisely. Coke costs cents to.produce because of scale.

Don't know how far the price would have to go to reduce consumption. Uk, a coke is a quid but I don't know how.much if any the consumption per head is up or down here.

I do think it would be simpler to say that there should be an effective maximum.on added sugar percentage on drinks and food. I am sure there are plenty of foods that could have sugar reduced 20% and there would be little change in sales.

Beyond that, I believe there are plenty of foods which are palatable only because they are chock full of added sugar. There are loads of programs on TV in the uk at the momwnt attempting to explain how much sugar is crammed into food.

Fruit juices with more sugar than coke. Pizza sauces with as much as some sodas. Processed is not ideal for any diet but people eat it and not everyone cooks well.

So. I go for a reduction in the permissible percentage in a processed food. Sadly, things like cereal and children's yoghueta are the worst.

Speaking of coke cost, I think it is mostly the packaging and distribution and advertising you are paying for.

But it is way overpriced.

The real problem Coke always must solve near its factories is where to get the clean water.

They have been buying up good water holes around town,

And kicking out the natives.

Maybe not in Thailand, I do not know,

But in other SA countries, for sure.

Still I drink it without sugar instead of water, because,

It gives me GAS

Which I put in my comments here.

Davy the FAT boy.

RANDY NEWMAN

Beautiful.....

Since SUGAR has correctly become a big focus on this thread, I'd like to share some quotes from an excellent HBO documentary about the obesity epidemic in the USA (which has even been described as a threat to national security), which of course is at similarly very severe levels to Mexico.

The documentary series is called -- The Weight of the Nation.

The trends in Thailand are headed in the SAME direction. (Which, BTW, has already previously been well documented on this thread with links, so no need to repeat again and again, yes?)

These quotes of course relate to the USA. I don't know whether they would be similar or not in Thailand. In any case, there is little doubt that Thais are consuming too much sugar, much of it in drinks including energy drinks, and that excessive sugar is linked to development of obesity. As people in Thailand know, it's actually quite a chore to AVOID sugar here, it is so pervasive and excessive in the overall food environment.

http://theweightofthenation.hbo.com/

Sugar-sweetened beverages are the largest source of sugar in the diets of children and adolescents.

About 46% of adults' added sugar intake comes from sugary drinks.

Weight of the Nation.

Worth evey minute watching, basically.

The other thing I was thinking, besides how complicated it seems to remove pulse, is that there must be in the linux community among contributors and developers an unhelpful feeling of snobbery directed against people who use multimedia together with computers. Maybe this is a carry over from the days when these people spent their time almost exclusively with servers, networking, and research related tasks. Maybe they have long felt that multimedia and computers is just an oddity, a toy for the ungifted users who don't have interest in just the code for important tasks.

But this attitude just will not fly any longer. And linux community members must work together in a more efficient way to solve things like easy installation of audio, and easy changes to audio, because the average user now routinely wants to plug and unplug an ever increasing number of audio and video devices.

Maybe companies like Logitech and Microsoft Skype and Adobe Acrobat need to treat the linux community with the respect it does deserve.

May I ask if you bought your copy(ies) of Linux? Have you contributed anything back to the community?

It does astound me that developers over the years have busted their asses putting out a project that is used around the world; perhaps more than any other project (there was some 814000000 Android devices sold last year; add in the set tops, embedded devices, servers, etc. and you are looking at a truly staggering number). The fact that Mr. Stallman started the F/OSS movement and the Linux team built on their work to provide an operating system this widely used while overcoming a lot of roadblocks should make one think. The only thing that those developers HAVE to do is give back to the community if they use GNU/GPL software.

If one is not purchasing the software, than what reason do they have to assume they can direct these developer's energies? Would they allow me to come over to their house and stay rent free and then DEMAND that they rearrange the floor plan to accommodate me?

If one is ungifted enough that they are not able to code in what they think is relevant, than they have a couple of options. They can submit a request to have those options included. They can fund a team of developers to provide those options. They can try to find another free (as in beer) operating system that has their desired options. They can take their money and purchase an operating system that has the options as they want.

I am sorry if this offends you, but the sense of entitlement is breathtaking. The Linux F/OSS community owes you nothing. They do not have to fast track audio development because you think it's important.

The F/OSS community has often been described as communist...where everybody contributes to their abilities and everyone benefits to their needs. The Windows/OSX is a capitalistic society. You want a banana 'republic' where you are the tinpot dictator that receives from everybody and doesn't give back. Good luck with that.

We are all in this boat callled life, together.

This is what is so good about linux, and opensource,

It allows us all to contribute and criticize the results of these contributions.

Sort of like the Scientific Method.

We shoudl not be overly concerned with who contributes how much, and how wealthy they might be.

No one is keeping track, or shouldn't be.

If you don't want to contribute, then don't.

""I just say Thai humor does not contain a lot of jokes, in the form of telling some short story with a logical/situational punchline.

And I note your post does not contain a joke.""

Are you talking about a joke like this?:

"Courage, man; the hurt cannot be much."
"No, 'tis not so deep as a well, nor so wide as a church-door; but 'tis enough, 'twill serve: ask for me to-morrow, and you shall find me a grave man."

To me, that is a good joke.

Or, what about this logical situational gem:

(Because this kind of a joke really gets me rolling on the floor with laughter, even if I might be alone at the time, although, I am the jokster.)

"Since she happened to be clutching the long broom, she tried to tickle him from the doorway. This had no effect, and so she grew annoyed and began poking Gregor. It was only upon shoving him from his place but meeting no resistance that she became alert. When the true state of affairs now dawned on the charwoman, her eyes bulged with amazement and she whistled to herself. But instead of dawdling there, she yanked the bedroom door open andhollered into the darkness: "Go and look, it's croaked; it's lying there, absolutely croaked!"

Let me add quickly that my auto correct feature capitalizes the word God (it did it right now) automatically until I force it to accept god into its dictionary. For a quick argument, This may end up intentional or not.

Pls advise which spell checker you are using to post on comments where it provides auto-correction in real time?

I am trying to find one for Linux based Chrome.

HTANK YOU!

Think that Raro meant KeepassX, which is indeed excellent.

I am pretty much sold on Keepass (x)

Did you notice, though, some very negative comments from a few posters about lost data, blue death screan, etc.

I wonder what this might be?

Are they crackpots?

Or, when using Keepass, are there sometime major problems?

I will use linux, windows, android devices.

I need to be able to manage and open websites, WiFi hotspots controlled by browser based passwords, web and PC file passwords, while remembering one universal password.

But what about use with google Mail login, or Group+ login, or YouTube login, or hosting or seedbox logins?

Is KeepassX reliable with these requirements in mind?

If you're not aware, smartphones charge twice as fast in airplane mode.

No!

I did not know that.

You can get power packs. Invadeit.com shows them and their prices.

Thang You!

That is exactly what I had envisioned. (most of the specs on this particular website don't list the weight. for portable models? weird http://store.moshimonde.com/portable-battery-charger-ion-bank-10k.html)

There is one weighing 135 grams

Approx 1650 Baht.

5200mAh

Just perfect.

But why not make one oneself?

I wonder

Piano! (Samis are dancers from the North)

Does listening to myself sing in the shower count?

i cant stand fat people but tax isnt the answer. these people should be shipped off to fat camps and forced to exercise until they lose the blubber

Now you sound like Randy Newman.

"" have asked many persons... most jokes were funny in Thai (or so they said), but translated into English meant nothing - so these were wordplays.

I never heard even one proper joke from a thai.

A lot of funny conversation, yes, funny situations or descriptions, yes. But no proper jokes.""

I remain surprised at your thinking along these lines of Thais cannot tell proper jokes.

I thought that it was you who last time stated it was the Chinese who were inscrutable,

Not the Thais.

What will you think of next?

I'm flattered to be at the center of your attention, but I must disappoint you, I didn't write that about the Chinese.

Let's see what you come up with tomorrow!

You know, when western people tell me this Asian society, or that Asian society, are not funny, or can't tell jokes, or can't understand the humor in something,

I just do not understand how myopic and insensitive they can be.

I recall so many times some of my customers would say the same thing about Taiwanese people when they visited Taiwan factories and met the employees and factory owners.

There would often be much embarrassing silences when humor was attempted.

And the western buyers would always say that these people are very nice but they do not have a sense of humor or they can't understand or tell a joke.

They knew nothing about this subject, I know,

Because I knew that what they said was untrue.

I had spent many years - several decades living there, and I spent most of my time with Asian people, but not much time engaging westerners.

The Taiwanese humor was just as funny as any western humor.

And I used to spend many enjoyable hours laughing up a storm with my Chinese friends,

Sometimes almost rolling around on the floor, or awash with tears running down our cheeks.

If you are comfortable with people, and they you, then there is no end to the enjoyment you can have,

Appreciating their humor,

Humor which is not especially unique, usually, as you seem to mistakenly think.

I have fun with Kon Thai here right now,

Making jokes and exchanging some pretty subtle humor,

Whic gets us laughing out loud.

The humor on both sides is very genuine.

And this is why I can in no way understand what you are saying or why.

Here is an interesting bit of research which might help you to understand a bit more about Taiwanese humor,

And that it is not very different from western humor.

But I am still trying to find more, if any, valid research relating to Thai humor,

Because there are many who agree with you, that Thais don't know how to tell a proper joke,

Even though you are wrong, and so are they.

Abstract

Humor has been recognized by nurse researchers and practitioners as a constructive therapeutic intervention and has shown positive psychological and physiological outcomes for patient care. Because cross-cultural research on humor is sparse, this preliminary study investigates how nursing faculty members approach teaching therapeutic humor in the classroom and clinical education in different countries. Through an investigation of classroom (didactic) education and clinical practicum with direct patient care, the study may elucidate the linkage between theory and practice as well as how nursing faculty members view therapeutic humor in general. Researching nursing faculty teaching practices and viewpoints of therapeutic humor may help reveal cultural differences in the use of humor in healthcare settings. This cross-cultural study included 40 nursing faculty at three nursing programs: two in the United States and one in Taiwan. A qualitative approach was used to perform content analysis on responses to the open-ended questionnaires. Research findings revealed cultural differences between faculties from the two countries. Taiwanese faculty members indicated that they teach more theory and concepts related to therapeutic humor in the classroom than do nursing faculty members from the United States. However, nursing faculty members in Taiwan reported that they observe and practice less therapeutic humor in clinical settings out of respect for the cultural value of "reverence of illness" operating within Taiwanese society. Therapeutic humor was family centered and interdependent on relationships, roles, duties, and responsibilities of family members. In contrast, the U.S. faculty members stated that they teach less theory and concepts related to therapeutic humor in the classroom but observe and practice humor more in clinical settings. United States faculty approached teaching therapeutic humor in the classroom on an informal basis because the subject was not part of the required nursing curricula. In clinical settings, therapeutic humor was patient centered and spontaneous in nature.

Boy oh boy, are you bored.

You are joking,

Right?

SamiDancing?

Maybe we should do an experiment. Let's take a willing volunteer who believes that taxing sugar is a good thing.

Every time he eats sweetened food, or a sugary soft drink, he can send a shilling to the Inland Revenue.

Let's weigh him now, and in a year's time, and see how much impact it has had, and how much it has cost him, and how irritating is it to keep track?

And let's take another willing volunteer, and force him to ride 20 km on a bike every weekend, and see who is happier about their regime at the end of the year.

Are you up for that, JT?

SC

I am not happy paying 5 Baht for a Jack&Jill bar.

I want to pay about 3 Baht.

And, I really doubt that forcing me to ride 20 km on a bike will have any positive effect.

20 km on a bike?

Could take a month of Sundays to get that far.

Another good article about this subject I just came across in an online magazine I often read:

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/poor_people_are_getting_plump_good/14477

And some erudite and informed comments, too.

The logic of that article is daft. It suggests globesity is a triumph over famine. It's not a competition. You don't want EITHER.

I think I prefer obesity

More than obesity, I think I prefer to know more about this usage of the word "daft".

Here we have daft modifying logic.

But I have always been more comfortable using it to describe people, not actions.

For example, I would think that someone is daft for eathing too much.

But I would be less likely to say eating behavior is daft.

Who reads spiked-online to gain insight into valid research in this field, anyway?

I can see JingThing's point here.

And, you can see in one of the comments following the article that these readers are very unsympathetic to viewpoints expressed in The Guardian.

I like the Guardian.

And so I wish that someone here could post some links from The Guardian which shed light on the subject at hand.

Thank you.

"" have asked many persons... most jokes were funny in Thai (or so they said), but translated into English meant nothing - so these were wordplays.

I never heard even one proper joke from a thai.

A lot of funny conversation, yes, funny situations or descriptions, yes. But no proper jokes.""

I remain surprised at your thinking along these lines of Thais cannot tell proper jokes.

I thought that it was you who last time stated it was the Chinese who were inscrutable,

Not the Thais.

What will you think of next?

I'm flattered to be at the center of your attention, but I must disappoint you, I didn't write that about the Chinese.

Let's see what you come up with tomorrow!

You know, when western people tell me this Asian society, or that Asian society, are not funny, or can't tell jokes, or can't understand the humor in something,

I just do not understand how myopic and insensitive they can be.

I recall so many times some of my customers would say the same thing about Taiwanese people when they visited Taiwan factories and met the employees and factory owners.

There would often be much embarrassing silences when humor was attempted.

And the western buyers would always say that these people are very nice but they do not have a sense of humor or they can't understand or tell a joke.

They knew nothing about this subject, I know,

Because I knew that what they said was untrue.

I had spent many years - several decades living there, and I spent most of my time with Asian people, but not much time engaging westerners.

The Taiwanese humor was just as funny as any western humor.

And I used to spend many enjoyable hours laughing up a storm with my Chinese friends,

Sometimes almost rolling around on the floor, or awash with tears running down our cheeks.

If you are comfortable with people, and they you, then there is no end to the enjoyment you can have,

Appreciating their humor,

Humor which is not especially unique, usually, as you seem to mistakenly think.

I have fun with Kon Thai here right now,

Making jokes and exchanging some pretty subtle humor,

Whic gets us laughing out loud.

The humor on both sides is very genuine.

And this is why I can in no way understand what you are saying or why.

Here is an interesting bit of research which might help you to understand a bit more about Taiwanese humor,

And that it is not very different from western humor.

But I am still trying to find more, if any, valid research relating to Thai humor,

Because there are many who agree with you, that Thais don't know how to tell a proper joke,

Even though you are wrong, and so are they.

"" have asked many persons... most jokes were funny in Thai (or so they said), but translated into English meant nothing - so these were wordplays.

I never heard even one proper joke from a thai.

A lot of funny conversation, yes, funny situations or descriptions, yes. But no proper jokes.""

I remain surprised at your thinking along these lines of Thais cannot tell proper jokes.

I thought that it was you who last time stated it was the Chinese who were inscrutable,

Not the Thais.

What will you think of next?

I quizzed some Thais about it, and I was quite surprised that nobody was able to tell a couple of jokes.

Seems their humor is composed of only of wordplays, double entendres and slapstick.

Udder nonsense.

From a cow?, I wonder.

ok, please tell a Thai joke.

Better yet, I will ask a Thai to Tell a joke tomorrow, and then relay it to you.

Now it is DiHa, so there is no one around.

But what kind of joke do you want?

There are all sorts, and all are funny.

I do not really think you actually know very much about Thai humor, or Thai culture, if you are able to make a statement as you did, with a straight face.

Not-PoleDancing (I meant that Irish dance where they jump up and down without hardly bending their legs, like they have a pole up their rearend, or something)

PoleDancing (dignified?)

I quizzed some Thais about it, and I was quite surprised that nobody was able to tell a couple of jokes.

Seems their humor is composed of only of wordplays, double entendres and slapstick.

Udder nonsense.

From a cow?, I wonder.

Here is the results of some interesting password research on breakability:

Hammered asinine what?

"The bottom line: Emphasize nouns and adjectives in passphrases. For example, the researchers found that the five-word passphrase "Th3r3 can only b3 #1!" was easier to crack that this three-word passphrase: "Hammered asinine requirements." Meanwhile, they found that the passphrase "My passw0rd is $uper str0ng!" was 100 times stronger than "Superman is $uper str0ng!" and in turn that phrase was 10,000 times stronger than "Th3r3 can only b3 #1!""

This is enough to keep you up at night, perhaps.

Again, as reported in InformationWeek.