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i just got SETV in Penang yesterday. 150 Ringgit. No problems.

Spot on, but one is an outside perspective looking at you, and the other is your perspective looking at your partner.

I don't think these perceptions are any different in any country. Generosity is usually a valued trait, as is being a frugal wife. I think what is more important is having a similar attitude to money as your partner. If one is tight and one spends freely there will be friction, especially if she is the one spending your money freely.

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Yes the smart kid is a farang, but more specifically he is an Aussie, so it's not surprising.

Here's what Bill Maher thinks of his own people -

And Aussie comedian Jim Jefferies on Americans being raised as the worst type of stupid people - stupid "confident" people!!

Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkpdI88PNYE

AOA said - "Australia has the worst schooling in the western world.

I can spot Australian posters in a second, they confuse loose with lose (etc.), and never learn from their mistakes.

I have several Australian friends who freely admit they left school illiterate."

Oh come on AOA, Australian education system is slipping but is still way ahead of America. In secondary school PISA rankings of Maths, Science and Reading. 19th, 16th and 13th v 36th, 28th and 24th, even accounting for all our 'loose' friends. (I thought that it was just the standard TV way to spell 'lose'.) Drives me mad every time I see it actually, but you're not supposed to comment on that <deleted> here. And here's me always assuming it's an American. What an eejet I am!

But I won't argue with you about university standards seeing as the US dominate the top 50 unis on the planet.

OP - "Now my son still has to learn to use the potty and how to feed himself whereas this Aussie kids mind is totally free of that burden already and thus his development will be exponentially more.....yada yada yada "

So you think your child is burdened with the task of using the potty and feeding himself? Sorry but there is no evidence whatsoever that you can influence how and when these milestones are achieved, let alone evidence that it frees up a child's mind.

You obviously care about your sons development - that in itself will have more effect on him in the long run than any strategy you put in place to 'unburden' his mind. Your son is growing up in Thailand, but you want him to develop a farang mindset. I'd be careful of raising someone who doesn't fit into either culture; potentially a misfit who doesn't really belong anywhere. That is going to impact his future life much more than when he is potty trained, or feeding himself. These things are just minor milestones he'll reach when he's ready and totally insignificant in the big picture.

I already have two loog-kreung daughters raised in Australia. If I am to have another child here in Thailand I'll be raising them as Thai as much as possible. My faring ideas no doubt would burden them enough here without insecure parenting that judges them against this or that ideal or milestone or peer achievement. I guarantee you'll end up with them disengaging from you as teenagers and young adults, and then you'll have something really tangible to worry about.

So just where do you get these advanced potty training classes, anyway?

What a load of TV <deleted> this thread is!! Superior patronizing ethnocentric attitudes prevail as always on TV.

Don't you know there is huge variation in development of kids especially at that age? One advanced white child in one kindergarten is hardly a serious study of the subject.

To the OP - for Gods sake relax a bit and let your child be a child. Homework in kindergarten? <deleted>! Most studies find homework in primary school is a waste of time, let alone kindergarten. Personally I'd be looking for a new kindergarten that allows kids to be kids; they will mature at their own pace which can vary wildly even within one family. Your parenting style and skills really has little effect.

Thai kids grow up more slowly. Happens to be a great aspect of Thai culture IMHO.

Never. I am 51 and landed my first teaching job this year here in Chiang Rai, although I do teach maths. Not every one is against older people, so OP don't be put off by the ones who are. This topic comes up regularly and it would seem there are many people a lot older than you and me who are taken on. Just a matter of being in the right place at right time, supply and demand, etc. I'd present my CV directly at the schools you're interested in. You could get a job at my school tomorrow if you presented well and had the right credentials.

PS - Ha ha, most people with (even a small) Union Jack on their flag would get your self-deprecation.

Now the Luddite is claiming Wikipedia as his infallible source. Do you have any idea how Wikipedia is put together? Put your teeth back in and sit back down in your chair Grampa.

A Luddite and proud of it.

I'll take Wikipedia over you any day.

Aha, Gramps you really are just one big mass of ridiculous contradictions. A purportedly proud Luddite who loves Internet forums and Wikipedia. Go tell! But I am sure you don't really understand what I am talking about, or you'll have forgotten it by the end of this sentence. What were we talking about again? Yes, the weathers been pretty wet up here in Lanna lately.

Dumbing down

Now the Luddite is claiming Wikipedia as his infallible source. Do you have any idea how Wikipedia is put together? Put your teeth back in and sit back down in your chair Grampa.

It's my experience that the youth of today, compared to the youth of you and your era, are 1. Much better educated and worldly, 2. Nowhere near as homophobic, 3. Nowhere near as racist, 4. Nowhere near as bigoted 5. Nowhere near as sexist, and last but not least 6. Nowhere near as ignorant and small-minded.

Machines as a rule have moving parts, digital devices as a rule do not. Only a creature from Jurassic Park would refer to a smartphone as a machine.

Thai culture is evolving unlike some of the 'dinosaurs' around this forum. The arrogant attitude toward youngsters is from another era too. Who do you think you are to judge a persons whole life and culture from a two minute viewing of them having dinner? Your use of simple anecdotes to make and pass judgements is just so TV and so ignorant it's laughable. What utter arrogance!! Anyway as I recall, in the Jurassic period, children were to be seen and not heard. So what's the problem?

Did it ever occur to you old codgers that the people using their 'machines' are actually communicating 100 times faster and a 100 times more than when you was a lad. Some of you old codgers on here really need to move with the times. The average 8 year old has absorbed and processed more information than their grandparents did in their entire life. If you want to stay in the dark ages with your <deleted> boring anecdotes and 'real' communication - be my guest!!

... "More " and " Faster " is not necessarily better.

Everything has a price, if you can't see the price humans are paying for technology, better wake up and smell the coffee.

Ah, this forum is so full of Luddites. mauGR1 if you can't see the benefits to humanity from technology....I dunno! Usually "more" and "faster" do mean better, I cannot think of too many examples where they don't. Sex and holidays maybe, but thats only for the faster side of things, eh?

But what on earth are you getting at? Sure there is nothing more annoying than someone sitting on their mobile or laptop when they are supposed to be socialising with you and your group. Is that what you're talking about? The rudeness and lack of social skills? Or is the world going to hell and all humanity is doomed because of all this evil pervasive technology? Should we all be outside playing with two sticks instead of playing shootemups on the computer? Is that it, the desensitising of young men to violence? Mind you they're sure good at flying those drones these days, where did those skills come from? Or is it the obesity epidemic you are on about? You can now get apps on your smartphone to help with exercise and weight loss, and probably even social skills too. Hey there's an idea. Or maybe its cyber-bullying that bothers you, those teenagers can be nasty cant they? Personally mauGR1, I worry more about religion and aggressive foreign policies and wars and human rights and gun laws and whatever people on TV are groaning about today, things like that. My iPad and the internet sure are handy for keeping up with those things.

I just dunno what you are on about mauGR1, but i am certainly trying to wake up and smell the coffee!! Maybe you can help me out here?

Did it ever occur to you old codgers that the people using their 'machines' are actually communicating 100 times faster and a 100 times more than when you was a lad. Some of you old codgers on here really need to move with the times. The average 8 year old has absorbed and processed more information than their grandparents did in their entire life. If you want to stay in the dark ages with your <deleted> boring anecdotes and 'real' communication - be my guest!!

Oh yes, the average 8 year old has probably seen more porn than I saw in my first 40 years. Good going .

It's interesting that a question about whether machines are destroying Thai culture or not has brought vitriolic diatribes against older people. Obviously the machine culture hasn't improved comprehension or manners.

Don't take it personally old man.

Ah, Ive never seen any 8 year olds either interested or searching for porn. Contrary to popular belief the total porn on the internet is a very small percentage.

Being an old codger is only partly a function of age; mostly it's an attitude. I've met plenty of 25 year old codgers. The internet is not some OTHER world, it's merely a reflection of THIS world. Comments like '99.9% of the internet is BS' show you have an ignorant codgers attitude.

There was a time when only priests and other learned men could read and had access to information. Then came the printing press and universal education. Now each and every one of us have instant access to 99.9% of humanities combined knowledge, and the ability to communicate with most of existing humanity. What a wonderful age to live in, we are so lucky. I do feel sorry for you having to live with all the BS and those dastardly 'machines', but mostly I feel sorry for you for having a codgers attitude. I'm 51 myself, but I'm not a codger.

No, that is the great fallacy: the wisdom of old men. They do not grow wise. They grow careful.

― Ernest Hemingway

Did it ever occur to you old codgers that the people using their 'machines' are actually communicating 100 times faster and a 100 times more than when you was a lad. Some of you old codgers on here really need to move with the times. The average 8 year old has absorbed and processed more information than their grandparents did in their entire life. If you want to stay in the dark ages with your &lt;deleted&gt; boring anecdotes and 'real' communication - be my guest!!

@OP. Its been my experience that, as a group, teachers are the biggest bunch of whingers on the planet. It doesn't matter where they come from East or West they just have a lot to complain about. If you don't like it find something else to do. Sure looking after children/teenagers is not easy and you have to do a reasonable amount of out of hours work, but 7-10 weeks paid holidays every year is compensation enough. In Thailand you can make double what any Thai or Filipino teacher makes, and for many all you have is a 'native tongue' and a one month qualification. Suck it up!!!

doublephil, on 01 Sept 2014 - 09:54, said:

I often wonder who writes these articles and whether they have any real knowledge. They always make it sound much worse than it really was.

 

I travelled extensively through northern Chiang Mai province - Mae Taeng-Chiang Dao-Fang districts and Chiang Rai province - Mae Suay-Mae Lao-Meuang-Mae Chan-Mae Sai districts over the weekend by car - and only encountered a bit of light rain here and there on Saturday - though there was some heavy rain on Saturday night - and Sunday was quite hot and sunny - and no evidence of flooding anywhere except some local flooding in Mae Suay district of Chiang Rai from heavy rain on Friday

 

The level of the River Ping in Chiang Mai is slightly higher this morning than it was yesterday by a few centimeters - but nowhere near the levels required to cause any general flooding. Some low lying areas in the city do suffer temporary flooding due to local drainage problems when there is heavy and/or persistent rain - but that happens in lots of places around the country - or around the world for that matter

 

@me313

True!!! But all eating establishments are the same

Every country in the world.

Food is just business for money

Does a brick layer care about everyone of his bricks?

When residing in the uk I eat 99% at home

I cook in a clean enviroment.

But when in thailand I have to eat out.

Like in the uk last we they anounced on tv stop washing your chicken before you cook it.

The uk health authorities believe when its cooking the salmonella and listetia bugs will be killed so dont wash it! ( personally I dont trust these people anymore, cancer, dimentia and diabetis agents)

So people started to ring the radio show

A top chef rang up; when asked if he washes the chicken before he cooks it? He pompously replied of course I do not.

Apparently 2/3 of uk chefs dont wash the chicken before cooking it. (dirty! Filthy! Disgusting!)

So now not washing chicken will become law.

Then all of a sudden people will be sick, falling down dead everywhere.

Superbugs emerging apparently from nowhere

Then the government will act like they dont know why. Satanic demons!

I've never been sick eating in thailand and love the street vendours!

Partly because we can see the whole cooking operation.

Laa gon

So do you wash your chicken? Do you wash your minced beef? Do you wash your salami or your sausages? Rinsing your meat with a bit of water does nothing. Cooking kills all the bugs, and not keeping food sitting around at 5-60 deg C where bugs can proliferate. Superbugs are caused by oversubscribing and overuse and incomplete courses of antibiotics, not lack of rinsing food with a bit of water.

Me too never ever been sick in Thailand and I eat anything and everything. My only rule, derived from experience, is never eat in an empty restaurant.

Thailand gets what Thailand deserves..... always has and always will.

Well you could say that for any country really. For example, look at all those reckless countries in the Euro, England included, years of reckless policy and spending, one could argue they got exactly what they deserve. Sadly its always the working class citizens that suffer at the hands of incompetent foolish pollies.

Same world over.

...who get elected by the working class citizens...

Yep, that's right Hawker, I'm aware of how it works. Sometimes, the people have to pick what they think might be the best turkey, sometimes it works out for them other times it doesn't.

Occasionally, a good one comes along, he/she doesn't always get to where one would hope he or she gets to. Pollies bandy together and look out for competence, then they white ant it.

Socialism/"progressivism" never pays its way and never keeps a promise; not in the long run. NEVER. Yet it's what the "working class" get duped into buying, over & over & over again. They suck it up every time. The speechmaker says social consciousness and redistribution of wealth; the voter gets elitism. In Thailand it's called the PTP or Thaksinism. Socialism & elitism: two different words for the exact same thing.

I know its a waste of time lecturing people on their political viewpoints - they seem to be hard wired into us. I have never ever seen anyone change their political standpoint because someone proved an argument to them. Having said that.....

It's funny how right wing Americans love to put their one eyed slant on the evils of 'socialism'. It's just not a word we use in the rest of the western world. There are so many varieties of socialism how can you brand them all as bad? On the whole the rest of the western world have education and health systems that look after EACH and EVERY citizen, at least to some degree. Funny how both education and medical costs are higher in the US than pretty much any where else on the planet. Also on the whole all sides of politics support these systems - not just what you call the 'socialist' left. Your GOP is just way way to the right of the rest of the planet. In Australia our right wing party (ironically called the 'Liberals') are probably no further right wing than Obama. In Australia we have a great health and education system, superior to the US in most measures of quality. But disgusting to you cause it's what you call 'socialised'. Just so you know we have complete freedom to choose private schooling and private health care if we can afford it.

I really find it hard to equate socialism with elitism too, no matter now hard I think about it. They seem to me to be almost opposite. No doubt you have an argument to help me there.

So Thaksinism and PTP stand for 'socialism' too. The Thai political system doesn't seem to based on the left/right dichotomy we are used to. But it appeals to your simple left is bad, right is good mindset. Good luck to the worlds mindless working class.

I think Prayuth and his team are smart enough to maintain good relations with the EU and US for economic purposes such that the Thai economy doesn't suffer. I don't think Thailand is cornered or under pressure as the article may suggest. However the US should be smarter than stopping military exercises with Thailand. Thailand is a strategic important partner for the US from a geopolitical point of view. Now with the action from the US army to stop joint exercises, they have opened the door for the Chinese to closer cooperate with Thailand from a military point of view. Clearly not something the US want. Hope the US foreign policy has more foresight in future.

Of course the US know exactly what's going on in Thailand, and probably approve too. What is it, the 18th coup in 80 years? It's just more of the same. Here we go again in the LOS. Have you not read the MacGregor Marshall book? They know more than we do. But the bastion of democracy can't be seen to be approving of a military coup. Not in front of the populace. A few pro-democracy anti-coup declarations for good measure and a few cancelled military exercises for a good look and then it's back to business as usual.

These Thais with their whitening crap. They really need to get a life!

They also put pegs on their nose , they are trying to look like Europeans , the flared nose for those who don't know, plays a important part in your body cooling, that's why Europeans suffer in the heat our nose is shaped for cooler climates, so this of course wont make their nose narrow and sharp looking, unless they are Michael Jackson , but along with the whitening, this is some silly idea that they will look like UK Princes Kate.

What utter rubbish. Humans have sweat glands to keep cool. Dogs and other mammals like yourself pant.

I like the dark skin and she's very pretty, but I think she'd be better without the Farang nose job.

I'm no expert but I'd say all 3 have got one. Beauty is beauty in any colour but agree - give me a natural flat nose any day.

I can arrange that for you - any day.

I like the dark skin and she's very pretty, but I think she'd be better without the Farang nose job.

I'm no expert but I'd say all 3 have got one. Beauty is beauty in any colour but agree - give me a natural flat nose any day.

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Bonefish I accept your comments and I too would be worried if all my wife's relatives had died from a young age of liver cancer. But I would still have an enquiring mind. For example are you so sure however, the causation solely falls on the shoulders of the fermented and/or undercooked fish, rather than fluke contaminated drinking water or high levels of alcohol consumption in some sectors of Thai community?

If reason for liver cancer and flukes is from poor sanitation, so it follows where you have poor sanitary provisions, you'll likewise have risks from poor quality non-mains drinking water supplies in rural areas. I would hope, that there comes a time when there is widespread fluke screening for infection in high incident areas. If Thai authorities cannot afford this, why do not international aid Agency's step-in?

And no, there is no ulterior motive, other than an enquiring mind. My wife stocks jars of commercial pickled Gouramy fish. Would you say these commercial supplies are treated to kill the parasites before being distributed? I'm glad you cook at home, a good choice.

Being involved in hospitality, opinions are like A$$holes, everybody has one

The cause of thebcancer may be this particular fish however there is like 100 other possibilities so definitely saying it's fish is a bit silly

How many internet reviews so you see with people saying "I got food poisoning from this restaurant, I was feeling sick by the end of the meal and I know it was the medium rare steak, rare meat gives me food poisoning! "

Newsflash! Food poisoning occurs anywhere between 8-36 hours after the meal, there is no way you could get food poisonibg during the meal,

Maybe the food was laced with some kind of cyanide?? Then chances are youd be dead, and chances are every other person who ate the same steak from the same batch would get sick on the spot

Unless its the only thing you ate in the last 48 hours you can only narrow it down slightly

Staphylococcus aureus Staphylococcal food poisoning 1-6 hours Sudden onset of severe nausea and vomiting. Abdominal cramps. Diarrhea and fever may be present. 24-48 hours Unrefrigerated or improperly refrigerated meats, potato and egg salads, cream pastries

http://www.fda.gov/food/resourcesforyou/consumers/ucm103263.htm

Seems you can if you are not a fast eater.

That's one strain out of the 15 or so mentioned on the fda website, plus it's more the uncommon one!!

Yeah that's Staph Aureus - otherwise known as Golden Staph and in its antibiotic resistant form as MRSA. Nasty bug that one, and not that common in food poisoning.