LadPhrao123

The courts said you're allowed to protest without consequence. I hope to see them soon in Bangkok. It's the only way that the Sino-Thais will take them seriously and respect their political rights.

Rightly or wrongly, rural people see this as another coup executed by the Sino-Thai elite who want to install a government that will enrich them even more at the expense of rural Thais. That's the perception and it's a perception held by rural Thais for good reason.

Don't forget, the elected leader of this country is a Sino-Thai as are many others in the now caretaker government (family members ect.). These people were voted in by the rural folks so I don't think breaking the political picture down into racist factions is a reflection of the perception of the rural Thais.

I feel a change in feel this week. They have weathered the absolute worst that the courts and media could do and still the mob is dwindling.

Everybody must now ensure she does not resign and this is done on FB twitter and through rallies. With an electoral mandate, she has to defend the democratic system against the coup.

There is no other way, nobody will accept a coup and it must be fought off at all levels before anybody decides to try it on.

I imagine there is diplomatic language in there that ensures she knows she has international backing. Whilst they won't fan Sutheps flames for him, the embassies and UN will be very concerned with the direction of the country this year.

I hope they protest and block the Courts now. They have allowed this to continue and maybe not long before we see farmers blockading the law courts. If this is how they want Gov to be blocked, the PT should de-tooth them.... Not like they going to phone the police to have them cleared away is it!!!

Remains to be seen, in this story with more plots and plot makers than you can barely keep up with, whether the week coming is the one that marks a change for the government and the Prime Minister and a grinding reversal of fortunes for the coup plotters, but that said....

YOUR MOUTH TO GOD'S EAR!

An emergency decree should be in place. The revocation by the courts was just part of the covert power play to discredit the government. What nation would allow the squalid protesters to remain on their streets if it was not serving the purposes of the men with very long names?

You are right of course, what you're saying would go without saying anywhere there is a rule of law and the agencies of government were doing their jobs instead of marshaling and orchestrating an obscenely obvious judicial coup attempt through efforts to cripple the elected government outright or frustrating the resolution of the caretaker government status and returning the country to a government fully capable of taking care of the affairs of State. From yesterday you have on display a country's Civil Court pandering outright to a street mob whose stated goal is overturning an elected government.

Refreshing to see today that the government has good legal advice and is capable and willing to turn the tables in a legal maneuver when necessary on it's skulking opposition.

Having read the Khao Sod article it seems there literally nothing left of the Emergency Decree except the immunity to officers who enforce it. But there is nothing lleft to enforce.

No doubt Chalerm, Tarit, YL et al will refuse to recognise the authority of the court again but that will lead to criminal prosecutions, if they try to continue enforcing the SOE and courts won't approve arrest warrants under it. Rules of evidence are tougher under other laws.

I am not sure if the ruling is retroactive which could lead to prosecutions for actions already undertaken under the decree.

It seems to be a two parter, I just heard on the news that they're now going to DSI claiming government is shooting them and demanding courts protect them. With hand grenades being thrown by PDRC at police, and their shooters killing police, they want the courts to protect them from police?! So it seems we're full on judicial coup now!

The army would normally have been the first stop for a coup surely? So it means the army does not want to go down with Suthep and I can see why.

The election commission that won't do an election, and claims criticism of it is to win elections, that have already been won! I don't see how that's going to play well in the world.

NACC bringing corruption charges for negligence in stopping corruption it hasn't claimed yet. R-i-g-h-t, no politics there.

It's all getting very comic. Suppose they get Yingluk out, who do they propose as PM? Abhisit? Prayuth? Anand? Suthep?

I think the big problem for you guys is that you can scream about Yingluk and make negative endless comments claims and lies putting down Thailand and PT, but you can't put a person forward and offer a single ray of hope.

Not a single ray of hope. Just some sort of doom and gloom, where everything is corrupt, the courts block the police, gunmen roam the streets killing people and it's illegal to stop them! And no railways are made, and no minimum wage, and the sick can't get healthcare and are left to die like buffaloes, and the rich get super duper rich, and nobody needs to get elected, so nobody needs to listen to Thai people, and if we disagree, you'll throw handgrenades at us and shoot us!?

It's a bleak future, and all the stuff they're doing now, it's all destroying Thailand. All to gain power.

Well said!! Captures all the pieces of the situation.

After this latest piece of excrement by the Civil Court it's truly getting hard to watch and the sense is, if you're living in Bangkok, you're caught along with a lot of benign people living day to day lives watching and waiting for the violence to rise.

Short of the government rising up and beyond the shackles and restoring order on their own which I suppose would create a confrontation with the military it's hard to see how where this is going and who if anyone has the ability to save Thailand from itself.

It occurred to me today perhaps Thailand is about to prove that it isn't capable of a democracy and a democratically elected government and institutions, that it will or needs to fall back into feudalism and have to wait for another day, if in the future it can choose that form of leadership again.

absolutely disgraceful and completely 'unbiased' of course

You question the wisdom of the court's ruling? If so, what makes you describe it as 'disgraceful', what's your reasoning for that.

As for the 'unbiased of course', well, only when it goes against you, but perfectly correct when it goes for you.

Possibly because the courts say these are peaceful rallies. But of course you'll agree with them because people always throw grenades and shoot at policeman during peaceful rallies, don't they rubl.

In fact I bet you were cheering on the MIB back in 2010 for that very reason.

Basicly peaceful at first when immediately found guilty of terrorism, rebellion and what more. At that time only protesting an undemocratic government which tried to push through a blanket amnesty bill which even covered Yingluck's first two years in office.

Apart from the verbal abuse, we also started to get the nightly getting shot at, grenades dropped, police protection totally failing. That's when a few guards started to get 'armed'. I saw k. Chalerm last Thursday smiling broadly (or was that smirking) when shown the enormous amount of WMD his 400 strong police force had captured from lots of dangerous and violent terrorists.

From the beginning police showed a bias against the anti-government protesters. Constant harassment, under cover and armed surveiance. Gunfights between unknowns and/or police and some armed protesters. CAPO, DSI and CMPO joined the fun. Arrest warrents, 'we want to talk', 'we will capture them', 'we talk too much', etc., etc. Will those who donate money to paid bail for 184 arrested 'terrorists' by requested to explain their action before the CMPO/DSI tribunal?

As for 2010, well the similarity seems that again unknowns helped against non-red-shirts/non-Thaksin supporters. Plus of course the grenades started dropping around the time a court ruled to confiscate 43 billion of Thaksin's illgotten gains and only returned about 30 billion to him and his relatives. Poor Shinawatras, lable them farmers and maybe the government will help them.

You take great liberty with the truth and highly selective incidents to support protestors who have turned into an armed group, illegally occupying Bangkok with the goal of overthrowing a democratically elected government and blocking physically and through backhanded bureaucratic maneuvering the completion of an election and the ability of the government to handle it's responsibilities over governing a nation and it's obligations.

The people responsible for same should be in jail and anyone frustrating same peacefully or when necessary with force prevented from doing so.

The CAPO, DSI, CMPO and police have no responsibility to treat illegal acts and actors like anything other than criminals and discharge their duties as such. This isn't a party for wear 3 colors, blow a whistle, enjoy a night out blocking others in the intersections of a large city.

.. allied with the latest news from NACC, regarding YS being summoned to answer charges on 27th February, are we seeing the beginning of a judicial coup?

Yes, after one obstruction and another, after the military refusing to do carry it out, wit the aid of the bureaucracies hamstringing payments to the rice farmers to add to the plot, that's what we're seeing, a coup from the bureaucracies and the courts - the same ones that helped railroad Thaksin out of Thailand years ago and served up a cooked up conviction...and that's just Thaksin's personal case. The fix is in, again.

ASTV Channel 4 in Bangkok has constant feed of images, split screens. All in Thai. Hard to separate live action from pictures of action earlier today.

Empty threats period looks to be definitely over. Protestors standing down in the face of overwhelming numbers of police and where there's violent resistance to police, the shotguns are out. Arrests of protest leaders, displays of weapons captured by police.

i think this new special team very soon can find yingluck and the government.

and then put in the prison for life!

And that's what you get for thinking when you're not used to it.

Go to Ladprao Big-C. it's in the 5th flr.

There is no other Big-C in Ladprao. Or if you know Tha Mall in Bangkapi, get bus #145 (lots other buses) in front of it and you can tell the conductor Big-C and they will drop you opposite of Big-C because Big-C is on the other side of the road.

There are at least 2 Big C on Lad Phrao. The one the OP wants to go to faces directly on Lad Phrao and is located around the level of Soi 83, on the odd soi number side. If approaching along Lad Phrao on the even sided sois, the bus stop is around Soi 96, then use the cross over foot bridge to the odd numbered side, Soi 83. Once you're in the area it's hard to miss. Big building, big sign.

Lad Phrao , Soi 83, Big C 5th floor is correct.

BP is reporting in today's operation the Police took back the Makkhawan Rangsan Bridge rally site with little resistance.

Regards Chaeng Watthana it occurred to me that the police may of advanced there in part to keep pressure on many sites and avoid movements by the people and guards known as protestors from shifting around to support other sites. At the same time testing further Issara.

Other reports are saying the police plan to move again tomorrow against the people and guards known as protestors at Chaeng Watthana, Government House and the Interior Ministry.

Today was a prelude and typical of the soft approach taken by the government so far leaving it to the people and guards known as protestors to use violence. Sounds also like Issara is determined to invite a serious confrontation. He certainly deserves one.

Seems painfully slow process but reminds me of Chinese water torture - water dripping on a stone- drip, drip, dripping wearing down the stone.

I would not want to be on the PDRC side of those barricades tonight and in days ahead.

Make it so Minister Kittirat!

"What is acceptable we call acceptable; what is unacceptable we call unacceptable. A road is made by people walking on it; things are so because they are called so. What makes them so? Making them so makes them so."

Chuang-tzu

ahh, the turd in the lotus blossom bowl is baaaaack with a "plan".

Abhisit must be Witness 1 for why the military won't make another coup, after Abhisit, their last installation of PM after a coup, the thought of another must have them wretching.

Small wonder the former Democrat party can't win an election. Would love to see the Yingluck government issue their suggestions for dissolving the Democrats and a guide for a potentially winning strategy in a new, reformed party. They're so pathetic there's no chance they'd accept the good ideas.

Yuk, yuk, signed, Yingluck.

Police are really making inroads now arn't they, much to the disgust of the PDRC fan base

They just picking them up when they stray from the flock!!! Best tactic and it has avoided clashing by going in with a hit team.

This is who they'll get them all. and they'll all be much more wary now

Be interesting to see if the Courts just let them go, as you do for insurection, trhying to overthrow democracy and blocking streets in a Capital City.

Good they whisked him out the capital as well. The mob won't be marching around there in a red shirt area. Not now they down to their last 100 or 200!!

Democracy? What a bloody joke man! You certainly have no clue what democracy is. You should make yourself a favour and make some research first. Then make conclusions what is democracy.

Welcome to Merriam Webster dictionary.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy

Please and review chum and then get back to us on the 'clue to what democracy is'.

Here's a clue though, first definition: "a form of government in which people choose leaders by voting"

Pretty shocking, I know.

What, sort of like when Saddam was elected?

Oh pity, you didn't read the definitions did you? Eh? Like to make things up to suit your story?Okay, last chance and then school is finished for you:

Democracy: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation ... involving periodically held free elections"

Police are really making inroads now arn't they, much to the disgust of the PDRC fan base

They just picking them up when they stray from the flock!!! Best tactic and it has avoided clashing by going in with a hit team.

This is who they'll get them all. and they'll all be much more wary now

Be interesting to see if the Courts just let them go, as you do for insurection, trhying to overthrow democracy and blocking streets in a Capital City.

Good they whisked him out the capital as well. The mob won't be marching around there in a red shirt area. Not now they down to their last 100 or 200!!

Democracy? What a bloody joke man! You certainly have no clue what democracy is. You should make yourself a favour and make some research first. Then make conclusions what is democracy.

Welcome to Merriam Webster dictionary.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy

Please and review chum and then get back to us on the 'clue to what democracy is'.

Here's a clue though, first definition: "a form of government in which people choose leaders by voting"

Pretty shocking, I know.

Another good news Monday in Bangkok! Book 'em Danno.

The first step is the hardest and the list of arrest warrantees is getting thicker. Target rich environment Mr. Chalerm.

Will the vampire and his ghouls show up for a feed on the warm bodies of the rice farmers?

Sounds familiar...

"The role seemed to demand that I keep myself worked up to fever pitch, so I took on the actual attributes of the horrible vampire, Dracula."

Isn't it a bit sickening that the only people who snigger about injury and death are Thaksin supporters?

They must have been very unloved as children.

Maybe Suthep can do another couple of days marching to get them therapy

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This is why I say we need to pity them.

I even had one ask me today what the principles of democracy meant. This person is very vocal on TVF defending the "democratic" PTP yet doesn't know what democracy is.

It certainly doesn't involve intimidating voters in an attempt to set up an unelected council, which is apparently what Suthep-loving loonies like you support.

Not to mention laying siege to Bangkok's streets and intersections, blocking off the offices of government, blocking access to election booths and blockading distribution of ballots in a free and open election....the list goes on and on.

Of course they could all go home, no risk of grenades there, or protest publicly from street corners and the sidewalks or any of a number of internationally accepted means of demonstrating your ideas and issues and putting them on display, then voting in an election, but hey....why ruin the lawless fun....

But I do love all the little crocodile tears being shed here...all together now...kleenex!

Also passed through Asoke last night at around 7:30 pm and 9:30 pm.

Crowd looked as the picture at 7:30 pm but it appears they've now taken the tactic of spreading themselves out thinly on Asoke with much open space between people. So it looks like more people?

By 9:30 pm crowd had dwindled significantly and stage act was rock and roll.

Also noted the guards on the skywalk with tents set up behind their perimeter along the skywalk. Overall a trashy and depressing scene.

...and in other news reported elsewhere the Emergency Decree challenge has been dismissed this evening.

Arrest warrants approved for PDRC leaders and the SOE stands...

Making this a round 'em up and ride 'em into their cells day for the government.

It's good news Wednesday, 5 February 2014 at Bangkok, Thailand. Long overdue putting these birds in the clink.

Round them up and out in front, the frogmarching Froggie the Whistlehead.

Well let them do it.

But they won't in spite of the low lack of intelligence in the PTP and there supporters they know enough to know that all that will do is hasten their down fall. So just another empty threat. Just goes to show you how stupid they are. A leader who can't even vote properly and when she is caught at it blames it on some one else. By now one would think that the people know it is just PTP flapping their lips in the wind.

If they do Thailand will have 16 martyrs to rally more support behind. I believe that if the 16 would turn them selves in it would knock the legs out from under the PTP.

I thought the ear medicine man was going to have Suthep arrested last week.

haha, is that blah spelled blah, blah, blah or is it more the blah, blah, blah, blah.

As the man said "Put a rubber band on your head and snap out of it"...

It's good news Wednesday, 5 February 2014 at Bangkok, Thailand. Long overdue putting these birds in the clink.

Round them up and out in front, the frogmarching Froggie the Whistlehead.

They have not bothered enforcing hundreds of warrants in the past on the same people. What makes you think that this will be any different?

We all know that taking out the leaders will create a meltdown of the situation.

The main reason why they have not enforced them in the first place.

You've never played chess or watched Game of Thrones. Never get in your opponents way while he's busy building his own scaffold or tying the knot in his own noose. With the election the tide has shifted now in favor of the government.

uuhhh

Not really buddy. if you analyze the info that is available on the Feb 2 election you will notice that things are not going very well for PT. Very low voter turnout and a lot of No Vote.

Anyhow, let's welcome the farmers.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/702315-farmers-plan-to-seize-commerce-ministry-in-bangkok/

Many moves yet to be played, behind the scenes, on the streets, in the media.

No one's calling it check mate, just good news and another move in the government's favor...

But personally I would rather be playing the government's hand over time than their unworthy opposition.

Unless the fix is in somewhere, it's hard to see the government losing on the merits of the overwhelming need of re-establishing a functional government, resolving the farmer's issues and putting the country back on track while boxing up the bozos for political recycling. Eventually the cold hard facts have to be hitting the CC, the X factor and the dawdling EC. They've overplayed their hand and they've got nothing to offer the country except street vendors with t-shirts and whistles. Again, imho.