5 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

No symptoms if your dead.  ????

No need for chloroquine if you not sick. Dah????

2 minutes ago, rabas said:

Well, you found one out of 2.5 million cases so far.

Here is another for the deniers. 
 

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2020/04/member-church-bused-members-defy-social-distancing-order-dies-covid-19/

7 minutes ago, yuyiinthesky said:

Is that why SARS-CoV-2 was let out of the box? Give the West a massive distraction, weaken it, to finally take over Taiwan, Hong Kong and the South China Sea? Sounds like a page from "The Art of War".

More likely from Art of the deal “ use your leverage”. 

I hope Trump watched the WHO and Global Citizen star studded virtual concert. Drew 20.7 million viewers across 26 TV networks in the United States according to Nielsen data. Raised US$127.9 million for health care workers and WHO. That’s quite a resounding support for the health care workers and Coronavirus relief and WHO. 

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

You can sue any person or country you want. Whether you get anything out of it apart from income support for lawyers is a different question.

Will be interesting times to see Hua Wei suing the US government and Americans using the Chinese government. All I can say it is rather moot for the any foreigners suing and getting any results in the Chinese courts. 

19 minutes ago, rabas said:

Iran leader refuses US help; cites coronavirus conspiracy theory

The offers of aids are being seen as disingenuous and I don’t blame Iran from feeling that way. 

33 minutes ago, timendres said:

My home is in the UP of Michigan. There is very little need for draconian measures there. Much of the upper LP also does not need those measures. Allowing people to travel to their vacation homes during the "lockdown" makes sense, since they will be essentially self-quarantined by definition. The governor has implemented numerous measures that make absolutely no sense, like closing boat launches. That makes sense in an area where most boats are pleasure crafts full of people, but makes no sense where I live where most boats are one or two people going out to fish. Again, the US, and specifically Michigan, is not at all like China or Thailand. Measures need to be thought out better.

That’s very much linear thinking that people will behave and self discipline. There are just so much of computation as to how and what people will do that can endanger the wider community. 

15 minutes ago, i84teen said:

Yes, I agree. Send masks, other PPE, medicine, etc just NOT money (which Iran gov't has in copious amounts) so they can't fund more terrorism!

 

Its no one's fault except Iran regime for the people woes. NOT the civilized west.

You absolutely don’t understand the SDR mechanism. It’s not a loan and it is highly conditioned. 

Back to the topic, the corona virus crisis should not have political overtone. 
https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/coronavirus-laura-bush-michelle-obama-share-message-hope-during-global-citizen-concert/EVPRUX7YPNGHRJJ4TLBONY5FOM/

22 minutes ago, candide said:

It will be interesting to see whether GOP states trust Trump enough and reopen quickly, or decide to play safe and wait.

22 minutes ago, candide said:

It will be interesting to see whether GOP states trust Trump enough and reopen quickly, or decide to play safe and wait.

I will be watching with keen eyes on Florida‘s Governor De Santis. He was never serious about social distancing and only bowed to pressure from the public recently to issue a stay-at-home order. I remembered he stepped in when his Surgeon General spoke of the need for more social distancing. He vowed to reopen on 1st May. He better be very sure as he won the ‘18 election by a razor thin advantage. 

19 minutes ago, UbonThani said:

What are you talking about 2100? The US can handle 100k deaths. They cannot handle economic ruin

US economy is already ruin with record federal debt, large budget deficit, high debt to GDP and a fiat currency. Trump has make the economy worse by focusing on Wall Street and neglecting the Main Street. The dollar will crashed followed by hyper inflation and the FED can only watch. 

52 minutes ago, Iron Tongue said:

Nice attempt to deflect away from a discussion about how the WHO is owned by China.  Really typical of Chinese online propaganda.

So is it true you are only paid wu mao for each post, comrade?

. Truth does make some people uncomfortable and resort to ad hominem. So sad yet typical. 

23 minutes ago, RANGER55 said:

That article is just an opinion article not fact. Several articles stating just the opposite. Doctors and hospitals are reporting no mater the cause of death, if the subject had C-19 they rule that as the cause. If a person walks out in the street and gets hit by a bus, test positive for C-19, then C-19 killed him.

It is not opinion from NYT. Actually factual statements taken from paramedics who said that many deaths were not tested for corona virus even though they have the symptoms. That’s the point. They found its not necessary to test as they have passed so the number of corona virus deaths does not reflect the correct numbers. The tests are already at a shortage because of lack of preparedness by Trump and this limits testing that they deem not necessary. 

4 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said:

This is not unlike the situation in many other countries, deaths in nursing homes, deaths at home etc being under-reported or reported late.

The ONS in the UK recently revised their figures and acknowledge that deaths outside hospital will take a longer period to report.

The NYT has an article that the corona virus deaths are understated in US due to the fact that there is no uniform system for reporting corona virus related deaths. US don’t do testing on those who die from flu for instance.