RuamRudy

I read somewhere that Islay generated more revenue for the Exchequer than Birmingham. Maybe a bit tongue in cheek but not far from the truth. https://manufacturingdigital.com/lean-manufacturing/uk-generates-more-revenue-scotch-whisky-it-does-shipbuilding

The problem with the UK in general and England in particular is that we don't really produce anything that the rest of the world wants. The UK has become a rentier economy - not a good place to be when the world is in recession.

If I had made a similar point but with the roles reversed I would, quite rightly, be called anti English. You are genuinely anti Scottish.

The talks will come after independence has been won.

Sunak just counted on an £80 billion windfall from North Sea oil so we aren't as poor as some suggest. Reminds me of a joke - geologists are perplexed as the size of North Sea oil reserves grow and shrink in direct relation to the strength of feeling towards independence.

Yes, a democratic outrage, but the representatives of the country next door are going to deny the mandate handed to our representatives. That's going to go down well. To be honest, the SC ruling was a forgone conclusion. What it does, however, is amplify (as if that was actually necessary) how Scotland has no say in the direction of the UK. With northern Irish support for the Union dwindling by the day (majority support,I believe, for reunification) and Wales equally realising that the UK doesn't work in their favour either, it's not only the Scots who need to do all the heavy lifting. A 3 pronged will be much more effective. And don't discount the forces from within. The English independence movement may be small but it's growing, and it's fostering ties with it's Scottish and Welsh brethren. Together, we can end the Union, I am sure.

What is not happening? Independence? Did the SC rule on that too?

"If we are as nasty as you say we are...". Where did I say such a thing? As for your fantasy terms, they do make you sound bitter but a fantasy is all they will be.

We all lost on that day, and then we end up with ridiculous situations where the Tories can get an 80 seat majority with only 40% of the votes. It does make me chuckle when people talk about the UK being a democracy.

I think you are twisting my post to fuel your own irrational ire. I made it clear that were Scotland to assume a proportion of the UK debt then it will merely need to service it as England will be in no position to pay off their share. Then I told you about the UN convention on seceding nations. You might not like it, but that's the position of the UN, which the UK helped devise. Personally I prefer to own my obligations. Indeed, it's a better bargaining position. We will, after all, expect to receive a share of the UK's assets commensurate with our share of debt.

Good god , how have we regressed so quickly? I had high hopes for the new World News forum that we could avoid these ad hominem attacks but it seems not.

As long as the debt continues to be serviced then this isn't an issue. I don't see England being able to pay it back any time soon so there will be no demand on Scotland to do so. That said, the UN convention on seceding nations is that the debt remains with the former administration.

But you haven't raised any issues of substance in relation to whether another referendum can be held. Once in a generation is a turn of phrase like dead in a ditch.

So 50% of the Scottish electorate need protection from England because they are too stupid to make a rational decision for themselves? Given the last 12 years of England's choices for government, i can only assume that that your post was written in jest...

Salmond is yesterday's man. Not only has the world changed significantly since 2014, most of the promises made by the UK gov if we were to stay have proven to be lies. Add to that the disaster that is brexit and we are now in very different circumstances. The clamour for independence is not the fringe show it was in 2010. WM can stonewall all they like - that is simply more fuel to the fire.

There was no such agreement. Once in a lifetime is a fiction of your own making.

Of course England can - but for reasons which utterly confound me, England insists on electing the most venal, corrupt politicians. Here's an idea - get rid of FPTP and what is effectively a 2 party system, get true and proper representation and start electing decent MPs. Then you might get what you should already have.

EVEL did away with that until last year, when it was rescinded, however the reality is that there are very few English only laws which pass through WM. Most have at least a tangential impact on the devolved nations by way of Barnett consequentials.

The day after the independence vote, rather than fulfill his pledge to make Holyrood the most powerful devolved administration in the world, Cameron implemented EVEL. That's your English parliament right there. As for the SG performance in education, health - it is head and shoulders above the English equivalents. Drugs are a disgrace, I grant you but the roots are complex and go back to even before Thatcher did her utmost to destroy the things she didn't like - IE the working class.

England has the overwhelming majority of MPs. It has no need for a second chamber.

If you had seen the state of Thaivisa in the run up to 2014, you would know what I mean. There were lots of cheap jibes (much like yours above) but an almost palpable rage by most English posters at the very notion of Scottish independence. But maybe these guys have something you might like? https://www.englishdemocrats.party/

An interesting poll from C4 taken yesterday afternoon. Would you vote SNP at the next GE if a victory for them could lead to Scotland leaving the UK? ✅ Yes - 50% ❌ No - 33%

Can you highlight the documents which state either 'once and for all' or 'once in a generation'?

The Welsh independence movement is gaining significant traction, but sadly the English seem too afraid to go it alone. They constantly whine about subsidising ungrateful jocks, yet they fall over themselves to prevent said jocks from unburdening their southern neighbours.

Good lord, where before the canard was 'once in a generation', now it's 'once and for all'? Where does the nonsense spring from?