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15 hours ago, jesimps said:
Have tried the app several times and it doesn't work for me.
I take it when you say "app", you mean phone. Not surprising, there are so many phone operating systems they cannot all be tested.
Try a computer, simpler than you think. Been using it since it started and although offline at times, never been a problem.
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1 hour ago, madmitch said:
Theyre not exactly unique. There are probably thousands of people in the same position right now. It's not news.
Quite, been blown up to sell papers. Flights suspended for 2 weeks and headline says "trapped for months"
I suspect they have booked through an agent and not provided the agent with valid contact details, hence the lack of information.
A friend of mine went back to the UK on Friday, his flight was brought forward at the last minute. He was very fortunate, he only switched his English phone on to get his son to put beer in the fridge. The agent had been calling, no emails.
I couldn't believe it, he has had the same Thai sim card for years but never thought to give the number to the agent.
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On 3/23/2020 at 10:48 AM, Peter Denis said:
Instead of taking the unsure road of applying for a refund, would it not be better to ask my credit-card company for a 'charge back', as you suggest.
The issue in question would be covered by Section 75 of the Consumer Protection Act and I think you will find that one of the conditions is that you have tried to resolve the issue with the supplier first.
The basis would be that the supplier has not provided what was sold so any talk of non-refundable shouldn't come into it. That is supposed to apply to changes you make, not the supplier.
I may well be looking at the same course of action.
Someone mentioned the EU directive, EU261, not going to apply in this situation, would be declared as "extraordinary circumstances".
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Isolation is not without precedent. Been to the village a few times, nice pub when open.
Yet, if there is anywhere on the planet that understands just what is needed to defeat a deadly illness, it is surely this tiny Derbyshire community of 900 people.
It was here, during one of the most horrific and heroic episodes of English history, that villagers took the now famous decision to quarantine themselves during an outbreak of bubonic plague in 1665-66.
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3 minutes ago, TKDfella said:
I saw the picture and that was enough for me. I agree with many on this thread...disaster!
That may well be the outcome but it will be a global disaster , not unique to any one country.
“Very selfish” Britons have been criticised for failing to practise social distancing. Matt Hancock said on Monday that “nothing is off the table” when it comes to fighting coronavirus – suggesting that a curfew enforced by police was possible, in line with measures taken in other countries.
Statement from a government that 3 weeks ago claimed to be fully prepared.
The provision of protective gear for NHS workers is improving, Matt Hancock has said, after widespread complaints that supplies were running thin.
London tube operating as normal
"I'm being sent pictures of crush loaded platforms at some Jubilee line platforms this morning. Drivers and other front line staff are furious."
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1 hour ago, TheFishman1 said:How strange is this government for letting thousands of people leave Bangkok get on the bus is then if Bangkok gets cleaned up these people come back and then they spread it all over again what are they thinking TIT
The same as every other country, unless of course you believe that students around the globe didn't run to the nearest public transport transport when the universities closed.
For some inexplicable reason, TVF appears to breed single minded overnight experts.
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52 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:
A Scott who is now saying he was no good. So you supported the SNP while he was leader then? I get it now.
I can't wait for all the other Scott's on here come up with some other excuses as you have.
Just highlights how much attention you actually pay to what gets said.
I have posted many times that I have never supported Alex Salmond, his leadership or agreed with independence under his plan. In modern day rhetoric he would have been branded a terrorist as a student, and leopards do not change their spots.
Of course as usual when you get it wrong, a personal attack is an easy option.
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On 3/22/2020 at 9:36 AM, geriatrickid said:
It is highly unlikely that the situation would have improved in Thailand. Do you really want to go to a country that does not handle stress very well? Stay where you are and wait 3-6 months. You will have a very good idea the direction Thailand is going in 30 days, and I don't expect that it will be welcoming.
Avoiding travel at this point in time is fairly good advice, but
"Do you really want to go to a country that does not handle stress very well?"
Are you oblivious to the panic buying in the UK? Spoke to my 86 year old friend in the UK last night, getting a bit concerned, grand daughter brings the shopping but she can only get to the supermarket when the shelves are empty. He is getting tempted to go himself first thing in the morning and join the queues.
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13 hours ago, Opl said:
"Herd immunity" when the health system is overwhelmed , then lucidity commands to name it " survival of the fittest".
Quite, "Herd immunity" is a selective concept with view to reducing future outlay and workload.
Free flu jabs are only offered to a particular sector of the population, rest are assumed to have herd immunity. Policy has not been as effective as originally perceived, this last winter for the first time primary school children were included in the program, they are now seen as "super spreaders".
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16 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:
I knew there was something wrong with him will be echoed, all while he was leader of the SNP.
Wrong again, he was a snake as a student activist.
The English do not have a monopoly on being taken in by deceptive politicians.
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2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:
Do not try and claim that Sturgeon was / is. Or that Corbyn would've been. Or any other world leader is.
The chaos and panic has been fueled by fake news, but shows how inept political leaders really are when confronted by emergencies like this. Their risk management planning is <deleted>. All of them.
"Do not try and claim that"
If you wish to comment, keep it in context, nothing claimed in respect of any other name..
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The comments by Boris Johnson and UK health officials on coronavirus testing this month are pictured in the graphic, following advice in January that the 'risk to the public remains low'
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3 minutes ago, vogie said:Yes keep on hating Boris, that'll make this horrible virus go away. Everything is down to Big Bad Boris. Boris cannot just wave a magic wand and this nightmare will go away, we as citizens have to take some responsibility for are own health.
I have just ordered my voodoo Boris Doll off Lazada, have you got any pins left?
Do not try and claim that Boris Johnson was well prepared and in control - it is fake news.
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33 minutes ago, vinny41 said:
And where did the advice about herd immunity come from
Sir Patrick said he hoped the government's approach to tackling the virus would create a "herd immunity in the UK".
Doesn't make it the right approach. When Andrew Marr asked Matt Hancock if it was government policy he evaded the question, wonder why.
Would the public support a policy that meant sacrificing many of the elderly so the workload on the NHS would be reduced in years to come.
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2 hours ago, vogie said:
he cannot do any more.
Bojo is the voice of the Tories and the Tories could have done a lot more for the NHS over the last decade. Was his statement on Mar 3rd misleading or misinformed?
"UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson says the country is well prepared for the "likely" spread of coronavirus."
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-51706391/coronavirus-pm-boris-johnson-says-the-uk-is-well-prepared
Bojo himself could have reacted better as soon as the problem became apparent in China but arrogance ruled the day.
Back in 2002, Europe was protected to a great extent from the SARS outbreak by the Asian countries and a much lower level of human traffic. Arrogance in the west sees problems in the east as of their own making and couldn't possibly happen to them.
Bottom line here is he underestimated the problem and overestimated the ability to cope.
Didn't even pay attention when Italy started to replicate China, something that will cost the UK dearly.
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1 hour ago, soalbundy said:
You tink to mut, the villages will get away with it, little to no contact with the outside. I used to think there would be a rush of unemployed coming back to the village from BKK but that hasn't happened. Yes they know about cov-19, they watch TV like anybody else, it just isn't part of their reality, like the rising and falling of the stock market it's virtual reality.
Not quite true, in recent days the tracker has shown an increasing spread to northern and eastern regions.
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16 hours ago, ParkerN said:
Not necessarily. The flaw in the argument lies in the word "diagnosed”.
If the hospital your neice works with is in Bangkok, the likelihood is that it's one of the expensive hospitals and the expansion of cases of COVID-19 is unlikely to happen in the expensive hospitals. The expansion is likely to happen in the cheap government hospitals where the doctors are far more likely to diagnose by symptoms rather than by disease. Thus if somebody is suffering from COVID-19 and presents with symptoms similar to pneumonia, the diagnosis is likely to be an pneumonia rather than COVID-19, and I think the test for COVID-19 will simply not get done. I have direct personal experience of how this might easily happen, though I did not understad the cause and significance of a poor diagnosis at the time.
The problem in Thailand is to be found in incompetence and laziness, as noted elsewhere in this topic. If the numbers of cases appearing in the stats are distorted by either, than the stats will not be worth very much...The flaw in your argument is she works in a government hospital, and as it happens was sent home yesterday as she has been exposed, not from a patient I would add, but a colleague that has now been quarantined.
Obviously there is no argument that will counter your deep rooted criticism of the state.
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5 hours ago, bkkcanuck8 said:
You don't know what you are talking about.
That is out of order, but par for the course, if anything was wrong it wasn't my words.
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4 hours ago, Jingthing said:
Your argument is not really logical. Nobody is saying half of Thailand is infected now. The more real question is whether or not people believe the still very low official numbers. I don't. Do much more testing nationally and you will see much higher numbers. This basic fact has already been proven internationally.
Logic doesn't really come into it. It is not like the test would mean you get prescribed the right treatment. I am not saying the information is not useful but bottom line is that the testing is only really fodder for the number crunchers.
The UK have been testing around 5000 a day and with about 150 deaths do you really think they are any better off. The Thais only want to know if they are going to live or die, and if they can live without the cost of a test and hospitalisation that would be the preferred option.
if people do not like the way they approach things then they should reconsider their surroundings, continual criticism doesn't help anyone.
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1 hour ago, Grumpy John said:
I half jokingly suggested in another thread that there would be 1000 cases by Sunday...and suddenly I am thinking I maybe right! ????
And on the same thinking the UK would be about 6000, with a slightly smaller population.
At this point in time I know where I would rather be.
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3 hours ago, Ian Nagle said:
And ..... 1 death.
They must think we are morons
Why? The guy that died was ill for 5 weeks, the vast majority of confirmed cases have been in the last fortnight.
My niece works at a large hospital in the middle of Bangkok, they had their first confirmed case this week, far less a death.
Looks like they are right in their thinking.
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4 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:
And for the most part we don't do much other than an annual vaccine for elderly people and medical professionals to control the outbreak of annual flus. California is currently modelling a 56% of the population infected from SARS-Cov-2. Pandemics typically happen in waves, and over the 3 or so waves you could easily have north of 50 million fatalities from the virus if the social distancing fails. BTW. SARS-CoV-2 also has the same profile as a standard flu - i.e. near someone (with 4 meters in an enclosed area), getting it from surfaces that someone coughs on or sneezes on (fomite). The difference is you have some immunity to flu viruses, you have none for the new one. The one benefit is that with the SARS-CoV-2 virus you will likely be immune for the forseeable future if you do get infected - so eventually the pandemic would burn itself out (until SARS-CoV-3 emerges).
I posted elsewhere that Thai research had identified covid-19 as a mutation of SARS-Cov-2 and claim to have identified 49 strains of the mutation.
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15 hours ago, bkkcanuck8 said:
Most western countries likely base their numbers based on advanced modelling (estimates)... I doubt they actually test the number reported.
Quite, all based on estimates, modelling is tailored by what is being reported to create a wider picture and demographic/risk factor variations.
Recent studies are indicating the estimated mortality from covid-19 could be lower and much nearer to that of flu than originally thought.
Influenza is a highly infectious disease that usually strikes during the winter season. Globally, it causes an estimated one billion cases of influenza, resulting in 290,000 to 650,000 deaths per year. A person can get the virus simply by being near an infected person that coughs, sneezes or talks, or by touching something with the virus on it.
https://www.ifpma.org/global-health-matters/flu-can-cause-up-to-650000-deaths-a-year-globally/
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59 minutes ago, TaaSaparot said:
The business in question brought up alcohol first.
Which was my point exactly.
Wrong, your point was you thought it clever trying to ridicule the owner trying to protect the business, look closer to home for the confusion.
It's a bit annoying when the customers cannot sit down to eat for the drinkers that have lost their usual watering hole. Sensible answer - stop selling alcohol.
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